South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

[Phantom Gossiper]

is anybody cuming down to watch the pv vs nek on saturday????

as if your not coming to the "showdown" feltus?!?

would've liked to of come down and had a look but week1 we have a trial game against salisbury west and week2 i'll be away fishing AGAIN! tight lines.................. and holes!

disappointing lol.. disappointed i didnt get an invite that is! WOO YEA!!!

[Ruffhead]

Not having a go at the Association, ok maybe I am, but the old Independent Central was so much better run. We just didn't have the teams.

I remember all the merger talks, the sticking point being Independent Central clubs wanted umpires and Churches didn't. I still can't believe we don't give an umpires report after the game, and we don’t have an umpires co-ordinator. The report took two minutes FFS.

The idea is not only to develop cricketers, but to also develop umpires as well.

I agree the divisons just seem slapped together surely we should have more teams in Div 1, and each Div for that matter if possible make it a bit more interesting. Div 5 is a joke with all the byes and forefits. Our boys at the Parkers had four weeks off before a final that's not good. Just get rid of Div 5 and try and shuffle the teams a bit.

As for umpires they are a nessesary evil and should exist to protect teams from the all to common it's going down leg call. If there is a problem it is raised like he said in umpires report.

[carey18]

Where did that going down leg call go lol.
Heard the Roo,s may have a new quick bowler next season. Very sharp

[Phantom Gossiper]

Where did that going down leg call go lol.
Heard the Roo,s may have a new quick bowler next season. Very sharp

Bedgegood?

[Pidge]

Where did that going down leg call go lol.
Heard the Roo,s may have a new quick bowler next season. Very sharp

I havent recieved a phone call yet

[Pistol]

My biggest problem with our association are the powers that the executive committee have, why have rules if the executive committee can at any time overide them. In my experience it's a case of if you piss and moan the loudest and the longest they will bow to the pressure and make a decission even if it goes against the rule book. We need clear cut rules and if you break them then tough shit deal with it. I think the people on the executive committee all need to be replaced by people who actually care about this association going forward instead of a bunch of dinosaurs who are turning it into an episode of Jerry Springer

Any Thoughts?

Also, I have an interesting recorded phone conversation with an executive member from last season saying that last year the Div 3 Enfield team didn't deserve to be in the grand final after Betaina forfeited their A grade yet still played their B grade who beat Enfield, even though this is against the rules, the spineless execs let it happen

[Ecky]

My biggest problem with our association are the powers that the executive committee have, why have rules if the executive committee can at any time overide them. In my experience it's a case of if you piss and moan the loudest and the longest they will bow to the pressure and make a decission even if it goes against the rule book. We need clear cut rules and if you break them then tough s***t deal with it.

If you were at the last delegates meeting you would have seen the exact opposite!
Fitzroy were the ones "begging" for the exec to be lenient and show mercy on them for breaking a (minor) rule, but the exec wouldn't budge.

I think the people on the executive committee all need to be replaced by people who actually care about this association going forward instead of a bunch of dinosaurs who are turning it into an episode of Jerry Springer

There is no point in complaining about that when nobody else is willing to join the exec committee. I know that the exec would love to have some members on it from the old Independent Central teams, but what can you do if nobody is willing to put up their hand?

Also, I have an interesting recorded phone conversation with an executive member from last season saying that last year the Div 3 Enfield team didn't deserve to be in the grand final after Betaina forfeited their A grade yet still played their B grade who beat Enfield, even though this is against the rules, the spineless execs let it happen

I can't comment on that as I wasn't on the exec then.

[No1_Source]

That was a very sad day that enfield vs betania semi final... some action was done about that this season with a paralowie game i believe but bit late.... even though the score didnt show it that game we did very well when again umpiring was an issue plus there a graders fielding for the less capable fielders of there b grade.. Which i see your point you's would have the Premiership there at N.E.K which i found you's more worthy winners as you were harder to play than Betania!!!

[Magpies96]

the last delegates meeting you would have seen the exact opposite!
Fitzroy were the ones "begging" for the exec to be lenient and show mercy on them for breaking a (minor) rule, but the exec wouldn't budge.

Begging? Lol

To be honest, it should have been sorted out in January when we appealed the decision, not left to the week of finals.
Also, it seems to be a case of rules for one, but not for others as I have it on good authority other clubs made the same mistake as us and were not penalised. Things like this will decide whether we stay in this association or not as they do cost clubs finals spots and that is after all what we all play for.
As for how the appeal was handled it was a joke, the executive should have had enough balls to make a decision instead of throwing it back on the clubs.

[Pistol]

you think the exec laid down the law about fitzroy pleading their case about points they lost during the season for playing un-registered players? what part of laying down the law involves having a vote to see if their points should be re-instated then when it's a tied vote have another vote to see if they should have another vote, so they go to a 3rd vote then make a decision. yeah that's showing some real balls that is!!!! all i'm saying is make the rules set it stone and that's that, that way everyone knows what the deal is, it's easy

rule 1.1 x..... (x being the rule), if this is broken y... (y being the consequence) and delete the line of at the discression of the exec or however it is written

i know we need an exec, just don't give them the power to change the rules especially since they have proven incapable to do so in a way that is fair to all teams concerned, give the power back to the clubs on a majority vote

[Ecky]

As for how the appeal was handled it was a joke, the executive should have had enough balls to make a decision instead of throwing it back on the clubs.

The exec were in a no-win situation, your Fitzroy representatives asked the association to let the delegates decide!

Make a decision and the exec gets accused of not listening and being biased against non-church clubs.
Let the delegates decide, and the exec gets accused of not having "enough balls".

I suggest that you put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment to see how difficult it is to please everyone!

[Ecky]

you think the exec laid down the law about fitzroy pleading their case about points they lost during the season for playing un-registered players? what part of laying down the law involves having a vote to see if their points should be re-instated then when it's a tied vote have another vote to see if they should have another vote, so they go to a 3rd vote then make a decision. yeah that's showing some real balls that is!!!! all i'm saying is make the rules set it stone and that's that, that way everyone knows what the deal is, it's easy

rule 1.1 x..... (x being the rule), if this is broken y... (y being the consequence) and delete the line of at the discression of the exec or however it is written

i know we need an exec, just don't give them the power to change the rules especially since they have proven incapable to do so in a way that is fair to all teams concerned, give the power back to the clubs on a majority vote

You are contradicting yourself, Pistol.

First you are saying that the exec should make decisions by themselves, and then you go on to say that decisions should go back to clubs on majority votes.

Also remember that the exec aren't the ones who put the rules in place, that is up to clubs (via their delegates) to decide at the AGM. The exec are just there to carry out the rules to the best of their ability.

[Magpies96]

As for how the appeal was handled it was a joke, the executive should have had enough balls to make a decision instead of throwing it back on the clubs.

The exec were in a no-win situation, your Fitzroy representatives asked the association to let the delegates decide!

Make a decision and the exec gets accused of not listening and being biased against non-church clubs.
Let the delegates decide, and the exec gets accused of not having "enough balls".

I suggest that you put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment to see how difficult it is to please everyone!

So you think being deducted 3 points for an unregistered player who we thought was registered is fair, when it took the association 4 games before informing us? You people need to realise we are all volunteers as well.
At the end of the day, the only one to suffer from mistakes from the association and Fitzroy was Fitzroy and someone needs to be made accountable.

[Goat Herder]

I suggest that you put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment to see how difficult it is to please everyone!

Especially when Clubs hold the Association to ransom by saying that "if this doesn't happen then we're taking our bats and balls and going elsewhere".. And as for "someone has to held accountable" regarding the unregistered player, yes, Fitzroy were adjudged accountable and responsible, hence the ruling being implemented. Let's move on! There's still snide remarks eminating from Fitzroy representatives about the heat policy rulings in last year's GFs - some 12mths ago! I don't think any other teams or players from the lower Divisions are still struggling to offload their emotional baggage about it. What do we need here to move on?? A team of psychologists or an exorcist..?!?? I almost hope the next 2wks are 'heated out' so we can share the pain and put this demon to rest once and for all! The Association cannot possibly predict the weather and to my knowledge, it's not an issue that's ever arisen in over 100yrs of competition. I don't know what the Fitzroy delegate's pass onto the Club, but the Association Coaching staff were lambasted for not advising of Association training, when in fact ALL Club delegate's were told to take it back to their Clubs, PLUS several key Fitzroy players were contacted about Association representation approximately 5 MONTHS prior to the season commencing!!

As Eck' said, put up or shut up! Either get someone on The Exec or find a reliable delegate to pass on information, and suggest improvements or recommendations, who can also accurately convey messages to ALL players that are raised at delegate's meetings.

[matty beam feltus]

I suggest that you put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment to see how difficult it is to please everyone!

Especially when Clubs hold the Association to ransom by saying that "if this doesn't happen then we're taking our bats and balls and going elsewhere".. And as for "someone has to held accountable" regarding the unregistered player, yes, Fitzroy were adjudged accountable and responsible, hence the ruling being implemented. Let's move on! There's still snide remarks eminating from Fitzroy representatives about the heat policy rulings in last year's GFs - some 12mths ago! I don't think any other teams or players from the lower Divisions are still struggling to offload their emotional baggage about it. What do we need here to move on?? A team of psychologists or an exorcist..?!?? The Association cannot possibly predict the weather and to my knowledge, it's not an issue that's ever arisen in over 100yrs of competition. I don't know what the Fitzroy delegate's pass onto the Club, but the Association Coaching staff were lambasted for not advising of Association training, when in fact ALL Club delegate's were told to take it back to their Clubs, PLUS several key Fitzroy players were contacted about Association representation approximately 5 MONTHS prior to the season commencing!!

As Eck' said, put up or shut up! Either get someone on The Exec or find a reliable delegate to pass on information, and suggest improvements or recommendations, who can also accurately convey messages to ALL players that are raised at delegate's meetings.

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[matty beam feltus]

I suggest that you put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment to see how difficult it is to please everyone!

Especially when Clubs hold the Association to ransom by saying that "if this doesn't happen then we're taking our bats and balls and going elsewhere".. And as for "someone has to held accountable" regarding the unregistered player, yes, Fitzroy were adjudged accountable and responsible, hence the ruling being implemented. Let's move on! There's still snide remarks eminating from Fitzroy representatives about the heat policy rulings in last year's GFs - some 12mths ago! I don't think any other teams or players from the lower Divisions are still struggling to offload their emotional baggage about it. What do we need here to move on?? A team of psychologists or an exorcist..?!?? I almost hope the next 2wks are 'heated out' so we can share the pain and put this demon to rest once and for all! The Association cannot possibly predict the weather and to my knowledge, it's not an issue that's ever arisen in over 100yrs of competition. I don't know what the Fitzroy delegate's pass onto the Club, but the Association Coaching staff were lambasted for not advising of Association training, when in fact ALL Club delegate's were told to take it back to their Clubs, PLUS several key Fitzroy players were contacted about Association representation approximately 5 MONTHS prior to the season commencing!!

As Eck' said, put up or shut up! Either get someone on The Exec or find a reliable delegate to pass on information, and suggest improvements or recommendations, who can also accurately convey messages to ALL players that are raised at delegate's meetings.

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[bored]

I think everyone needs a big cup of concrete around here...

[Pidge]

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[Magpies96]

I suggest that you put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment to see how difficult it is to please everyone!

Especially when Clubs hold the Association to ransom by saying that "if this doesn't happen then we're taking our bats and balls and going elsewhere".. And as for "someone has to held accountable" regarding the unregistered player, yes, Fitzroy were adjudged accountable and responsible, hence the ruling being implemented. Let's move on! There's still snide remarks eminating from Fitzroy representatives about the heat policy rulings in last year's GFs - some 12mths ago! I don't think any other teams or players from the lower Divisions are still struggling to offload their emotional baggage about it. What do we need here to move on?? A team of psychologists or an exorcist..?!?? I almost hope the next 2wks are 'heated out' so we can share the pain and put this demon to rest once and for all! The Association cannot possibly predict the weather and to my knowledge, it's not an issue that's ever arisen in over 100yrs of competition. I don't know what the Fitzroy delegate's pass onto the Club, but the Association Coaching staff were lambasted for not advising of Association training, when in fact ALL Club delegate's were told to take it back to their Clubs, PLUS several key Fitzroy players were contacted about Association representation approximately 5 MONTHS prior to the season commencing!!

As Eck' said, put up or shut up! Either get someone on The Exec or find a reliable delegate to pass on information, and suggest improvements or recommendations, who can also accurately convey messages to ALL players that are raised at delegate's meetings.

Lol, you clowns can't even send an email to advise on such penalties, never lone minutes to a meeting. God help us all.

[Pidge]

I suggest that you put yourself on the other side of the fence for a moment to see how difficult it is to please everyone!

Especially when Clubs hold the Association to ransom by saying that "if this doesn't happen then we're taking our bats and balls and going elsewhere".. And as for "someone has to held accountable" regarding the unregistered player, yes, Fitzroy were adjudged accountable and responsible, hence the ruling being implemented. Let's move on! There's still snide remarks eminating from Fitzroy representatives about the heat policy rulings in last year's GFs - some 12mths ago! I don't think any other teams or players from the lower Divisions are still struggling to offload their emotional baggage about it. What do we need here to move on?? A team of psychologists or an exorcist..?!?? I almost hope the next 2wks are 'heated out' so we can share the pain and put this demon to rest once and for all! The Association cannot possibly predict the weather and to my knowledge, it's not an issue that's ever arisen in over 100yrs of competition. I don't know what the Fitzroy delegate's pass onto the Club, but the Association Coaching staff were lambasted for not advising of Association training, when in fact ALL Club delegate's were told to take it back to their Clubs, PLUS several key Fitzroy players were contacted about Association representation approximately 5 MONTHS prior to the season commencing!!

As Eck' said, put up or shut up! Either get someone on The Exec or find a reliable delegate to pass on information, and suggest improvements or recommendations, who can also accurately convey messages to ALL players that are raised at delegate's meetings.

Lol, you clowns can't even send an email to advise on such penalties, never lone minutes to a meeting. God help us all.

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