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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Mr. Green » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:06 pm

To All: Now we have confirmed the Grand Finalists for all Divisions, which teams has the Favouritism for each premiership flag in each Div?

Phantom, in your honest unbiased view, how do you see the Blockbuster Div 3 Grand Final panning out, what would you say the strengths and weaknesses are for CMCC A’s and EUCCC A’s are?
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:19 pm

Mr. Green wrote:To All: Now we have confirmed the Grand Finalists for all Divisions, which teams has the Favouritism for each premiership flag in each Div?

Phantom, in your honest unbiased view, how do you see the Blockbuster Div 3 Grand Final panning out, what would you say the strengths and weaknesses are for CMCC A’s and EUCCC A’s are?


Honest opinion is it could go either way. I really dont want to say with confidence who will win. I really do think it will be a blockbuster.

I think CMCC on paper probably have a more even balance across the batting and bowling, batting is probably marginally stronger than EUCCC.

I think alot for EUCCC depends on how well Gully goes and if Hughes can get over his hamstring problem. CMCC have shown last two games that batting is deep and can recover from early collapses, EUCCC tend to drop their heads, and are prone to batting collapses.

The team who takes their chances will win the game..

Key players -

EUCCC - Gully, Hughes, Reynolds, Canil, Wardle (Dark Horse)
CMCC - Jarrett, Wright, Phillips, Bedgegood, Huxtable (Dark Horse)
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Mr. Green » Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:44 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Mr. Green wrote:To All: Now we have confirmed the Grand Finalists for all Divisions, which teams has the Favouritism for each premiership flag in each Div?

Phantom, in your honest unbiased view, how do you see the Blockbuster Div 3 Grand Final panning out, what would you say the strengths and weaknesses are for CMCC A’s and EUCCC A’s are?


Honest opinion is it could go either way. I really dont want to say with confidence who will win. I really do think it will be a blockbuster.

I think CMCC on paper probably have a more even balance across the batting and bowling, batting is probably marginally stronger than EUCCC.

I think alot for EUCCC depends on how well Gully goes and if Hughes can get over his hamstring problem. CMCC have shown last two games that batting is deep and can recover from early collapses, EUCCC tend to drop their heads, and are prone to batting collapses.

The team who takes their chances will win the game..

Key players -

EUCCC - Gully, Hughes, Reynolds, Canil, Wardle (Dark Horse)
CMCC - Jarrett, Wright, Phillips, Bedgegood, Huxtable (Dark Horse)



I think you are just about on the money, the teams are fairly evenly matched, with CMCC having some depth with their batting stocks, which has be vital in the last few games, however it is risky relying on the tail in a game as big as the Grand Final. EUCCC have the home ground advantage, which statistically is on of the most, if not the most, important factor.

Key players for mine are:

EUCCC: Johns - perhaps has hit his form at the right time of the season, and will require a captains knock to push the scales in Enfield’s Favour.
Hughes - having transformed himself into a well established all-rounder this season, it is important he can do damage with both ball and bat.
Wardle - talented cricketer, however still a work in progress, he will be EUCCC’s dark horse as you quite rightly pointed out before.


CMCC: Jarrett - Central Missions leading wicket taker, needs to continue this form into the Grand Final.
Wright - has bowling, batting and fielding ability, if he can perform in all 3 fields he will be vital to CMCC’s success
Bedgegood - After hitting an urgently needed 50 in the Semi-final he comes into the Grand Final on a high.
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby grave digger » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:02 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
grave digger wrote:bedgy bedgy bedgy we dont play you in b grade try the truth for a change you will find it uplifting for your soul little boy
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Just heard an interesting comment from an Enfield B grade player which you Enfieldians might find interesting..

After all your talk defending your C grade and promoting your B grade i heard that no one from your C grade went up to the B grade when you had the one day game vs CM late in the year, instead opting to allow your B grade to play with 7 players!

tsk tsk


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your C grade was playing CM, sorry if i worded it wrong. Good luck for your grand final Mr O'Brien, and i have something for you next time i see you ;)
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby No1_Source » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:22 pm

Mr Green in ur speech you forgot to write about that bedgegoods superb keeping last game haha its gonna be such a great div 3 grand final cant wait!!!
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey18 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:23 pm

Goat Herder wrote:It's a shame Hendo's not here so I can ask him how the bruise on his hip is that somehow rendered him LBW, as adjudged by this same 'official'... :shock: :roll:


Boys i dont want to sound like a sook or sour grapes but here is my run down. Starting first week off final myself and Barnes had two absolute plum LBW,s turned down. There number 3 shoulderd arms and got hit straight in front, given not out. Branes has another plum LBW turned down. When we bowl them out we bat 15 overs. Our opener given out caught behind first over off his pad. Bat no where near it. Other opener given out LBW when he is a long way outside the line. Accept them both as we are feeling good about the total. Day one ends with umpire telling us Dutchy cant bat. During the week Dutchy told there has been a executive decision made that both captains made a mistake last week. Paralowie for not nominating who is replacing who and NEK for not asking Paralowie who is. Dutchy told it is now up to Paralowie to nominate who is batting and who isnt. Senior Offical there to pass this info on to NEK before the start of play sat. Umpire and NEK captain kick up a stink about this when told before play. Umpire overrules the decision and says Dutchy cant bat. Senior SACCA official allows this and doesn't change the ump overruling the Association. NEK players in the area cheer out loud at this. Play gets under way. Senior official leaves. Lots of normal slander between both teams during play. I come out to bat and get a absolute stinker off a LBW 2nd ball. I was no where near in line with a secind set of stumps. Also hit on the hip. Frithy up the other end starts shaking his head and saying a few things. I react by telling the umpire he is a ******* cheat and get told by the NEK players to take it like a man and get off. Play ends and i have a few beers with a couple of players from NEK i used to play with at Croydon. I am told by every player i speak to that i wasn't out and that the other two last week were the same. I am told that the umpire wasnt on our side because off the way we acted last week when a few decisions went against us. Is this fair? . I thoroughly enjoyed my last game in this assocation if this is the way it is going to be run. Continue like this and there wont be a SACCA soon. Please tell me how you can have the ump pinning down the matting for the team before play. Hey i play it hard on the field and enough of you blokes no me well enough to know i always play fair and have a beer after the game but this is it. Back to turf for me. I just hope the Assocation does something before it is to late
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:55 pm

Hendo, i sincerly hope you dont throw it in and go back to turf, your such an integral part of paralowie and a vital member.

After a season which has now been clouded in such turmoil at the back end (Fitzroy & Paralowie) its easy to forget what a wonderfully close and competitive season it was and its the positives we should focus on.

In good news, the phantom won back money lost on pokerstars, is nearly thru his bottle of wild turkey and is rocking out tonight!! YIPPPEE FOR MEE!!!
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby bomber1976 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:06 pm

carey18 wrote:
Goat Herder wrote:It's a shame Hendo's not here so I can ask him how the bruise on his hip is that somehow rendered him LBW, as adjudged by this same 'official'... :shock: :roll:


Boys i dont want to sound like a sook or sour grapes but here is my run down. Starting first week off final myself and Barnes had two absolute plum LBW,s turned down. There number 3 shoulderd arms and got hit straight in front, given not out. Branes has another plum LBW turned down. When we bowl them out we bat 15 overs. Our opener given out caught behind first over off his pad. Bat no where near it. Other opener given out LBW when he is a long way outside the line. Accept them both as we are feeling good about the total. Day one ends with umpire telling us Dutchy cant bat. During the week Dutchy told there has been a executive decision made that both captains made a mistake last week. Paralowie for not nominating who is replacing who and NEK for not asking Paralowie who is. Dutchy told it is now up to Paralowie to nominate who is batting and who isnt. Senior Offical there to pass this info on to NEK before the start of play sat. Umpire and NEK captain kick up a stink about this when told before play. Umpire overrules the decision and says Dutchy cant bat. Senior SACCA official allows this and doesn't change the ump overruling the Association. NEK players in the area cheer out loud at this. Play gets under way. Senior official leaves. Lots of normal slander between both teams during play. I come out to bat and get a absolute stinker off a LBW 2nd ball. I was no where near in line with a secind set of stumps. Also hit on the hip. Frithy up the other end starts shaking his head and saying a few things. I react by telling the umpire he is a f****** cheat and get told by the NEK players to take it like a man and get off. Play ends and i have a few beers with a couple of players from NEK i used to play with at Croydon. I am told by every player i speak to that i wasn't out and that the other two last week were the same. I am told that the umpire wasnt on our side because off the way we acted last week when a few decisions went against us. Is this fair? . I thoroughly enjoyed my last game in this assocation if this is the way it is going to be run. Continue like this and there wont be a SACCA soon. Please tell me how you can have the ump pinning down the matting for the team before play. Hey i play it hard on the field and enough of you blokes no me well enough to know i always play fair and have a beer after the game but this is it. Back to turf for me. I just hope the Assocation does something before it is to late


Hate to say this, but you do sound like a sook, toughen up, the amount of times i have been given out by umpires, real umpires and not actually out, i could write a couple of paragraphs as long as you did!, like most people, if people are going to whinge and complain about umpires, then go back to turf
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey18 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:14 pm

No worries mate. Wasnt just saying about my decision mate
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Ruffhead » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:17 pm

Hear hear. I have never heard so much sooking. Umpires make bad decisions. I destinctly remember getting the gloves on Dutchy and being turned down by George it happens.

So the moral of the story, build a bridge.
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey18 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:18 pm

LOL look at all the Rose Park guys come back out of the woodwork after there week of sooking. Mate i was just answering the questions the blokes put up here about the game!!!!. Might i dont need to build a bridge we made it remember.
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Goat Herder » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:22 pm

bomber1976 wrote:
carey18 wrote:
Goat Herder wrote:It's a shame Hendo's not here so I can ask him how the bruise on his hip is that somehow rendered him LBW, as adjudged by this same 'official'... :shock: :roll:


Boys i dont want to sound like a sook or sour grapes but here is my run down. Starting first week off final myself and Barnes had two absolute plum LBW,s turned down. There number 3 shoulderd arms and got hit straight in front, given not out. Branes has another plum LBW turned down. When we bowl them out we bat 15 overs. Our opener given out caught behind first over off his pad. Bat no where near it. Other opener given out LBW when he is a long way outside the line. Accept them both as we are feeling good about the total. Day one ends with umpire telling us Dutchy cant bat. During the week Dutchy told there has been a executive decision made that both captains made a mistake last week. Paralowie for not nominating who is replacing who and NEK for not asking Paralowie who is. Dutchy told it is now up to Paralowie to nominate who is batting and who isnt. Senior Offical there to pass this info on to NEK before the start of play sat. Umpire and NEK captain kick up a stink about this when told before play. Umpire overrules the decision and says Dutchy cant bat. Senior SACCA official allows this and doesn't change the ump overruling the Association. NEK players in the area cheer out loud at this. Play gets under way. Senior official leaves. Lots of normal slander between both teams during play. I come out to bat and get a absolute stinker off a LBW 2nd ball. I was no where near in line with a secind set of stumps. Also hit on the hip. Frithy up the other end starts shaking his head and saying a few things. I react by telling the umpire he is a f****** cheat and get told by the NEK players to take it like a man and get off. Play ends and i have a few beers with a couple of players from NEK i used to play with at Croydon. I am told by every player i speak to that i wasn't out and that the other two last week were the same. I am told that the umpire wasnt on our side because off the way we acted last week when a few decisions went against us. Is this fair? . I thoroughly enjoyed my last game in this assocation if this is the way it is going to be run. Continue like this and there wont be a SACCA soon. Please tell me how you can have the ump pinning down the matting for the team before play. Hey i play it hard on the field and enough of you blokes no me well enough to know i always play fair and have a beer after the game but this is it. Back to turf for me. I just hope the Assocation does something before it is to late


Hate to say this, but you do sound like a sook, toughen up, the amount of times i have been given out by umpires, real umpires and not actually out, i could write a couple of paragraphs as long as you did!, like most people, if people are going to whinge and complain about umpires, then go back to turf


What a crock of crap! :evil: Umpires are human and make mistakes. THAT, you can handle. Blatant cheating that effects the outcome of Finals matches (let alone normal minor round matches) by someone who is PAID to be impartial official, is NOT acceptable! :evil: Enough is enough. :x
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey18 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:23 pm

Well listing to these two blokes it is ok for a ump to overrule the Executive Committee on a decision.
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey18 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:23 pm

Well listing to these two blokes it is ok for a ump to overrule the Executive Committee on a decision.
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:31 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
carey wrote:N.E.K to good for paralowie 2day as para vista was for morialta good luck next week to all may the best team win.


Gracious in defeat. Next season mate :) i half expected to see a verbal tirade of abuse towards the 3rd party!


well mate the result was out of my hands mate wish it wasnt but it so not going to be a sore loser tho.
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey18 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:35 pm

carey wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:
carey wrote:N.E.K to good for paralowie 2day as para vista was for morialta good luck next week to all may the best team win.


Gracious in defeat. Next season mate :) i half expected to see a verbal tirade of abuse towards the 3rd party!


well mate the result was out of my hands mate wish it wasnt but it so not going to be a sore loser tho.


I am lol
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:37 pm

You Rose Park clowns need to pull your heads in!

You were easily the worst team all season, somehow though managed to stay in the mix, you were VERY lucky not to lose outright in the last round, even though you seem so certain that u should have won outright.. HULLO!!!! You got bowled out for next to f**K all, you dont deserve SH*T!!

Why you opted to stay in div 1 is beyond me, your a bunch of clowns who have failed to reach the standard for the past couple seasons...

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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby carey » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:40 pm

Ecky wrote:
silent hour wrote:Not sure if there was an executive meeting that agreed that Dutchy could bat (maybe Ecky can confirm this)

Sorry, but all I know about this issue is from what I've read on here - I wasn't involved with making any decisions.


welll thats very interesting in its self as ian amey at the game said to me in front of the NEK capt. that he'd spoken to the executive committee and the decision was that whilst we didnt state who was subbing who for week 2 it wasnt up to NEK to choose who would bat. so interesting you say its the 1st you've heard of it.
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby bomber1976 » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:42 pm

carey wrote:
Ecky wrote:
silent hour wrote:Not sure if there was an executive meeting that agreed that Dutchy could bat (maybe Ecky can confirm this)

Sorry, but all I know about this issue is from what I've read on here - I wasn't involved with making any decisions.


welll thats very interesting in its self as ian amey at the game said to me in front of the NEK capt. that he'd spoken to the executive committee and the decision was that whilst we didnt state who was subbing who for week 2 it wasnt up to NEK to choose who would bat. so interesting you say its the 1st you've heard of it.


anyone know what the actual rule book says about this???
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Re: South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:53 pm

bomber1976 wrote:
carey wrote:
Ecky wrote:
silent hour wrote:Not sure if there was an executive meeting that agreed that Dutchy could bat (maybe Ecky can confirm this)

Sorry, but all I know about this issue is from what I've read on here - I wasn't involved with making any decisions.


welll thats very interesting in its self as ian amey at the game said to me in front of the NEK capt. that he'd spoken to the executive committee and the decision was that whilst we didnt state who was subbing who for week 2 it wasnt up to NEK to choose who would bat. so interesting you say its the 1st you've heard of it.


anyone know what the actual rule book says about this???


c.c.c.a match rules 2008/009
5.1 team lists part (b)

a team may if it wishes name up to 13 players for a two day match.if a team names more than 11 players it must before the toss nominate 11 of them to play the 1st week (which was done) and 11 to play on the second week (which was done) the only players eligible to bat or bowl on each day are those nominated for that day. where 13 players are named, the team must nominate, before the toss which of them substitutes for whom on the 2nd week. at the start of the 2nd day, a substitute may resume an over or an innings started on the 1st day by the player whom he or she replaces. for the purpose of the records of the associttion, the player whose innings was uncompleted on the 1st day will be treated as having retired
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