Domestic Doom or Dawn ?

[panther]

I reckon the depth of cricket at state level has dropped appreciably in the last 1-2 years
Lots of retirements and some defections to the IPL is seeing the talent pool thinned
Here are the teams during the 2nd last game of Sheffield Shield of the season
I have listed in capital letters any potential 15 + game Test players from now on [not including limited over cricketers]

NEW SOUTH WALES [3]

JAQUES..................back injury ????? still good enough
mail
forrest
rohrer
thornley
KHAWAJA................looks a very good young player and one to watch
henriques
smith
lambert
casson
COCKLEY................outstanding season, bowled well at the strong Vics batters

QUEENSLAND [2]

kruger
broad
love
WATSON................good player but will be on an invalid pension soon
SYMONDS [?]..........getting too old, just maybe one big innings could get him going
HOPES...................could be the allrounder to take over from Mcdonald/Roy/Watto etc
hartley
simpson
swan
cutting
laughlin


SOUTH AUSTRALIA [3]

harris
smith
KLINGER............. run machine, another good year next year he could be in
FERGUSON..........the most gifted player in the nation, could be a test player or district cricketer
cosgrove
manou
obrien
christian
cleary
habberfield
GEORGE..............bowls a bouncy leethal leg cutter, a smokey, and could be a big name player


TASMANIA [1]

wells
dawson
doolan
bailey
marsh
PAINE...............must be the annointed heir apparent to the great Brad Haddin
butterworth
krejza
geeves
denton
duval


VICTORIA [4]

ROGERS...............capable but at 30 ish might be too late now
jewell
hodge [too old].....3 years ago would be a shoe in for tests
HUSSEY..............might be to late for him at his age as well
white
QUINNEY.............better in the limited over format, but has extraordinary talent
WADE.................PAINE is next in line but this guy is the real deal as well
hastings
wright
pattison
gilmour


WESTERN AUSTRALIA[ 1]

davis
towers
W ROBINSON.......Nothing flash, a stodgy left handed batsman who has done well this season
bandy
voges
pomersbach
porter
johnson
magoffin
dorey
edmondson


Really apart from Phil Jaques that is a very thin list
Just seems a few years ago there was a bigger talent pool
Perhaps some of the newer younger players might improve enough

[Lightning McQueen]

I think you're being a bit tough there panther, there are some injuries going around atm and to simply select from one round is a tad harsh IMO. I would like to think that Swan(Qld), Bailey & Geeves(Tas) and Voges(WA) could be placed in capitals aswell.

[Pidge]

I reckon the depth of cricket at state level has dropped appreciably in the last 1-2 years
Lots of retirements and some defections to the IPL is seeing the talent pool thinned
Here are the teams during the 2nd last game of Sheffield Shield of the season
I have listed in capital letters any potential 15 + game Test players from now on [not including limited over cricketers]

NEW SOUTH WALES [3]

JAQUES..................back injury ????? still good enough
mail
forrest
rohrer
thornley
KHAWAJA................looks a very good young player and one to watch
henriques
smith
lambert
casson
COCKLEY................outstanding season, bowled well at the strong Vics batters

QUEENSLAND [2]

kruger
broad
love
WATSON................good player but will be on an invalid pension soon
SYMONDS [?]..........getting too old, just maybe one big innings could get him going
HOPES...................could be the allrounder to take over from Mcdonald/Roy/Watto etc
hartley
simpson
swan
cutting
laughlin


SOUTH AUSTRALIA [3]

harris
smith
KLINGER............. run machine, another good year next year he could be in
FERGUSON..........the most gifted player in the nation, could be a test player or district cricketer
cosgrove
manou
obrien
christian
cleary
habberfield
GEORGE..............bowls a bouncy leethal leg cutter, a smokey, and could be a big name player


TASMANIA [1]

wells
dawson
doolan
bailey
marsh
PAINE...............must be the annointed heir apparent to the great Brad Haddin
butterworth
krejza
geeves
denton
duval


VICTORIA [4]

ROGERS...............capable but at 30 ish might be too late now
jewell
hodge [too old].....3 years ago would be a shoe in for tests
HUSSEY..............might be to late for him at his age as well
white
QUINNEY.............better in the limited over format, but has extraordinary talent
WADE.................PAINE is next in line but this guy is the real deal as well
hastings
wright
pattison
gilmour


WESTERN AUSTRALIA[ 1]

davis
towers
W ROBINSON.......Nothing flash, a stodgy left handed batsman who has done well this season
bandy
voges
pomersbach
porter
johnson
magoffin
dorey
edmondson


Really apart from Phil Jaques that is a very thin list
Just seems a few years ago there was a bigger talent pool
Perhaps some of the newer younger players might improve enough

I would have Casson highlighted. Good Spinner but Cricket Australia have messed him around. Geeves, Voges and Magoffin could play for Australia, but not sure they would play 15+ games.

[Lightning McQueen]

Good work Pidge, nearly a snap, I was contemplating Magoffin.

[rod_rooster]

Hartley should be in capitals.

[JK]

I know I'll get shot here lol, but I reckon Ferguson is rated a little too highly at times .. Not saying he doesn't have talent, but Im not sure he has as much as many think.

Im no expert though and hope Im wrong.

[wycbloods]

Casson is rubbish IMO and Hartley's stocks have improved greatly this summer he is having a superb summer with the bat and gloves.

[Rik E Boy]

For whom the bell tolls. Woe is me. The end is near! Dear oh dear panther. We've had nine hundred retirements and six hundred and thirty three injuries this season so of course there are going to be some fresh faces at domestic level. I reckon it's a Domestic Dawn, not Domestic Doom.

I reckon you've actually missed a couple of players who could go on even at this EXTREMELY EARLY stage in their careers. I reckon that Rohrer of NSW and Broad of Qld could go on with it but both are so wet behind the ears they wear swim caps to net sessions.

I've been saying for months that there is no crisis in Australian Cricket, we are just going through an inevitable transisition. Yes, it would be nice to manage the transisition but we did manage that transisition from 1995 to 2005 and remain the best by a large margin but there have just been too many retirements and injuries to maintain our position on top of the heap. We don't even need 66 ready made test cricketers....but what is missing is a decent spinner but we'll be lucky to live to see the day that we can come close to replacing Shane Warne.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

Hartley should be in capitals.

Shocking batsman who should NEVER (there's your capitals) wear the baggy green.

regards,

REB

[CoverKing]

Hartley should be in capitals.

Shocking batsman who should NEVER (there's your capitals) wear the baggy green.

regards,

REB

two tons in a row for Hartley now REB... he has improved his batting dramatically.. he also made an important 49 in the ODD final against the vics that won them the game on a pitch that was hard to bat on... im far from being a fan of hartley but he is starting to prove some critics wrong

[rod_rooster]

Hartley should be in capitals.

Shocking batsman who should NEVER (there's your capitals) wear the baggy green.

regards,

REB

He wouldn't be getting picked as a batsman though.

[panther]

James Hopes had some success in the limited overs games v SA/NZ this season
In the current Shield match v Nsw he has excelled
4/80 [27]
55 RUNS [91]
And NSW is 5/68 2nd dig Hopes 5/15[16]

Surely if Mcdonald does not succeed in the S africa series Hopes will take his spot to England ?

[CoverKing]

James Hopes had some success in the limited overs games v SA/NZ this season
In the current Shield match v Nsw he has excelled
4/80 [27]
55 RUNS [91]
And NSW is 5/68 2nd dig Hopes 5/15[16]

Surely if Mcdonald does not succeed in the S africa series Hopes will take his spot to England ?

wrote this in another topic, McDonald has his chance now over there if he is slightly off. Hopes has got it IMO

[Rik E Boy]

Hartley should be in capitals.

Shocking batsman who should NEVER (there's your capitals) wear the baggy green.

regards,

REB

He wouldn't be getting picked as a batsman though.

No 5hit Sherlock. And when was the last time anyone who couldn't bat got given the gloves for Australia?

regards,

REB