HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Tooting Bec]

Typical Ballhog. You get your hackles up at a comment which is spot on. How can someone call themselves loyal to a club a particulary if they have been given the honour of being captain, and then leave. Also that Baters was paid for playing last year? (it doesn't matter about the amount it's the principle) Surely most locals at all HFL clubs understand the fact that to be competitive with othe teams, players have to be bought in.

Yes I do sympathise with people who have stuck around, but I believe if you continue working hard good things will happen.

[ftandsq]

Typical Ballhog. You get your hackles up at a comment which is spot on. How can someone call themselves loyal to a club a particulary if they have been given the honour of being captain, and then leave. Also that Baters was paid for playing last year? (it doesn't matter about the amount it's the principle) Surely most locals at all HFL clubs understand the fact that to be competitive with othe teams, players have to be bought in.

Yes I do sympathise with people who have stuck around, but I believe if you continue working hard good things will happen.

Sorry Bec i have to disagree, Those guys have done the hard yards for many years at the club, to see so called "Guns" recruited and paid silly amounts of money to stay for 1 year then leave. It would get you down as a player who has been there all your life, and there not getting any younger! You play the game for enjoyment and as a local i wouldnt enjoy seeing players coming yearly and rape my footy club and leave all the time and have the club just continue to do the same thing. Still cannot beleive the amounts being paid to recruits this year, its laughable. Knowing that there only staying for a year and are going to leave!
Fully understand why you would leave and seek enjoyment in the game we all fell in love with as kids! Good luck to them.

[BALLHOG]

Typical Ballhog. You get your hackles up at a comment which is spot on. How can someone call themselves loyal to a club a particulary if they have been given the honour of being captain, and then leave. Also that Baters was paid for playing last year? (it doesn't matter about the amount it's the principle) Surely most locals at all HFL clubs understand the fact that to be competitive with othe teams, players have to be bought in.

Yes I do sympathise with people who have stuck around, but I believe if you continue working hard good things will happen.

You can only stick around for so long before age catches up with you. Everyone deserves some success even if it means going somewhere different.

[Amateur Footy]

You are kidding me! The Fiejens are getting paid to play? Sure they are handy hills footballers but there are plenty around who are better and getting nothing. If a club is paying them money then heaven help the direction football is heading!

Not sure loyalty and Monty should be used in same sentence either. Great bloke, but don't forget he's played at Ironbank too. This move would make it atleast his 4th club.

[CountryVic]

Typical Ballhog. You get your hackles up at a comment which is spot on. How can someone call themselves loyal to a club a particulary if they have been given the honour of being captain, and then leave. Also that Baters was paid for playing last year? (it doesn't matter about the amount it's the principle) Surely most locals at all HFL clubs understand the fact that to be competitive with othe teams, players have to be bought in.

Yes I do sympathise with people who have stuck around, but I believe if you continue working hard good things will happen.

Sorry Bec i have to disagree, Those guys have done the hard yards for many years at the club, to see so called "Guns" recruited and paid silly amounts of money to stay for 1 year then leave. It would get you down as a player who has been there all your life, and there not getting any younger! You play the game for enjoyment and as a local i wouldnt enjoy seeing players coming yearly and rape my footy club and leave all the time and have the club just continue to do the same thing. Still cannot beleive the amounts being paid to recruits this year, its laughable. Knowing that there only staying for a year and are going to leave!
Fully understand why you would leave and seek enjoyment in the game we all fell in love with as kids! Good luck to them.

Enjoyment should come from working hard with your team mates and getting the best out of yourself. It shouldn't matter were you play. No doubt losing hurts but suck it up and work hard to turn the tide.

I have played at 2 clubs in my career the first club we struggled for years then turned it around and had some success and i rated that alot higher and gained more satisfaction from that then when i changed teams (because of work committments) and walked into an already successful side.

Has theformer Bridgewater Captain changed clubs to and HFL team or different league?

Pretty tough for the playing group to keep spirits up when your captain and long serving player deserts his team mates and club when he feels they are getting raped. Not a great example.

[alice the camel]

Enjoyment should come from working hard with your team mates and getting the best out of yourself. It shouldn't matter were you play. No doubt losing hurts but suck it up and work hard to turn the tide.

I have played at 2 clubs in my career the first club we struggled for years then turned it around and had some success and i rated that alot higher and gained more satisfaction from that then when i changed teams (because of work committments) and walked into an already successful side.

Has theformer Bridgewater Captain changed clubs to and HFL team or different league?

Pretty tough for the playing group to keep spirits up when your captain and long serving player deserts his team mates and club when he feels they are getting raped. Not a great example.

Who did you play for in Mildura CV???

[BALLHOG]

Typical Ballhog. You get your hackles up at a comment which is spot on. How can someone call themselves loyal to a club a particulary if they have been given the honour of being captain, and then leave. Also that Baters was paid for playing last year? (it doesn't matter about the amount it's the principle) Surely most locals at all HFL clubs understand the fact that to be competitive with othe teams, players have to be bought in.

Yes I do sympathise with people who have stuck around, but I believe if you continue working hard good things will happen.

Sorry Bec i have to disagree, Those guys have done the hard yards for many years at the club, to see so called "Guns" recruited and paid silly amounts of money to stay for 1 year then leave. It would get you down as a player who has been there all your life, and there not getting any younger! You play the game for enjoyment and as a local i wouldnt enjoy seeing players coming yearly and rape my footy club and leave all the time and have the club just continue to do the same thing. Still cannot beleive the amounts being paid to recruits this year, its laughable. Knowing that there only staying for a year and are going to leave!
Fully understand why you would leave and seek enjoyment in the game we all fell in love with as kids! Good luck to them.

Enjoyment should come from working hard with your team mates and getting the best out of yourself. It shouldn't matter were you play. No doubt losing hurts but suck it up and work hard to turn the tide.

I have played at 2 clubs in my career the first club we struggled for years then turned it around and had some success and i rated that alot higher and gained more satisfaction from that then when i changed teams (because of work committments) and walked into an already successful side.

Has theformer Bridgewater Captain changed clubs to and HFL team or different league?

Pretty tough for the playing group to keep spirits up when your captain and long serving player deserts his team mates and club when he feels they are getting raped. Not a great example.

He is going to Meadows in Country division. You don't want a captain at a club who has lost all motivation, it's not fair on the club or the playing group. He has said he will finish at Bridgewater one day, is still a Raider at heart.

[GetTheSherrin]

ive been at the one club all my life and we've gone thru as bad a trot as any club. but i can definately see how players would need a break from that enviroment. it can take quite a toll on local players who are there every week doing all the same training and playing the same game as paid players but then dont seem to get any recognition for their efforts, when the bloke next to him gets handed a nice envelope of cash just for being there.. this is amplified when in bridgys case (in my opinion) they havent recruited players who id want in my club.

for me i dont care what an imported player is getting paid as long as its obvious that he loves his footy, and gives back to the club. and that the club doesnt forget about the blokes who have been there for free for 15 yrs or so.. hope to see bridgy become competitive again soon so our rivalry can be as good as it once was..

haha speech over!!

[magpiemaster]

in the end no one cares about bridgy, they are the laughing stock of the hills yr after yr.how bout we talk about some half reasonable clubs that can play the game and provide a good oval to play on.

[dangermouse]

Speaking of laughing stock, we beat Hahndorf by over fifteen goals both times last year and by over thirty goals two years ago under lights. Every team spends time around the bottom. I think it is great there is so much discussion on Bridgy, it shows there are a few people with passionate opinions about the club. Hopefully opinion can continue to translate into action.

[kick it to me]

I tend to disagree here fellas. I reckon inter-league is a great concept provided you have your best team on the park. There's no chance of that happening at the moment because there's no history between us and B,L & G, but if all of a sudden we start putting a gun team on the field each year, the games will be worth watching and all of a sudden everyone will jump back on the whole idea. There be no more of this, 'we didn't have our best side on the park'...the winner would have genuine bragging rights as the better comp for the following 12 months. I'd like to think the HFL's best side would beat the BL&G comp all things being equal, but at the moment we can't make that claim as we keep getting flogged!

I certainly can't see any real issues with making it compulsory, it's not as though you're sending these guys off to do community service, they're actually doing something they enjoy doing, only this time it's on a bigger stage. If blokes really don't want to play, slap them with a one week suspension(not two), it's no big deal, they can sit out for a week and everyone can get on with it. I think we'd all be surprised how interesting it became given a few close encounters.

Whilst i think interleague at a senior levels is a load of rubbish and of minimal interest to anyone, it seems that the hfl in their wisdom will not drop it. after all it makes owen feel very important. The problem with one week suspensions dashin is that it will seriously disadvantage those clubs playing reasonable teams the week after. For a club which is playing bridgey after interleauge (mt lofty this year, correct me if im wrong) who cares if half the club is suspended, they will still get the win regardless. Expect some interesting players being taken off with injuries in the final minutes of games right across the HFL the week before interleauge.

[Howard]

It's been interesting reading about the Raiders, with people suggesting they are the only club recruiting guys in for cash, staying a year then shooting through. This obviously upsets everyone as these guys are seen as "raping the club" or "giving f...k all back to the club". As mentioned here before it's very well known that very few recruits (at bridgy) are treated well by their new team mates. I think there are stacks of reasons for that eg the locals don't rate them as the number one reason.
The probable real reason for bridgy's problems is the lack of depth, with recruits only able to fill some gaps, when they don't win games off their own boot the locals antagonism against them starts again and so the cycle continues.
The fact that the club is not a united unit is more the problem, if EVERYONE pulled their collective heads in and actually worked harder, and not leave it to the next bloke, they MIGHT then actually get somewhere, while they have guys amongst the team white anting efforts to improve they're on the road to no where.
Good luck Monty, Steve and Mat - I hope you find what you're looking for.

[BALLHOG]

It's been interesting reading about the Raiders, with people suggesting they are the only club recruiting guys in for cash, staying a year then shooting through. This obviously upsets everyone as these guys are seen as "raping the club" or "giving f...k all back to the club". As mentioned here before it's very well known that very few recruits (at bridgy) are treated well by their new team mates. I think there are stacks of reasons for that eg the locals don't rate them as the number one reason.
The probable real reason for bridgy's problems is the lack of depth, with recruits only able to fill some gaps, when they don't win games off their own boot the locals antagonism against them starts again and so the cycle continues.
The fact that the club is not a united unit is more the problem, if EVERYONE pulled their collective heads in and actually worked harder, and not leave it to the next bloke, they MIGHT then actually get somewhere, while they have guys amongst the team white anting efforts to improve they're on the road to no where.
Good luck Monty, Steve and Mat - I hope you find what you're looking for.

I agree with you Howard on the imports getting treated like crap, but last year with the new guys doing a pre season and helping out with Oakbank I thought they got treated like everyone else.It wasn't until the season started when a few of them started to have a crack at some of the colts comming through and that's when things went bad because some of these young lads were out performing a few of these imports.

[CountryVic]

I agree with you Howard on the imports getting treated like crap, but last year with the new guys doing a pre season and helping out with Oakbank I thought they got treated like everyone else.It wasn't until the season started when a few of them started to have a crack at some of the colts comming through and that's when things went bad because some of these young lads were out performing a few of these imports.[/quote]
I reckon you blokes have got it all wrong. If a player comes to your club he should be welcomed and treated no different to another player that has been around forever. He shouldn't be judged diffferently either. You call them imports, blow ins whatever which creates a stigma and makes them uncomfortable and an expectation that may not be warranted.

So would i be considered an "Import" even though i have recently moved to SA and had to play somewhere? How does someone get pigeon holed, whats your criteria?

[Dashin]

I tend to disagree here fellas. I reckon inter-league is a great concept provided you have your best team on the park. There's no chance of that happening at the moment because there's no history between us and B,L & G, but if all of a sudden we start putting a gun team on the field each year, the games will be worth watching and all of a sudden everyone will jump back on the whole idea. There be no more of this, 'we didn't have our best side on the park'...the winner would have genuine bragging rights as the better comp for the following 12 months. I'd like to think the HFL's best side would beat the BL&G comp all things being equal, but at the moment we can't make that claim as we keep getting flogged!

I certainly can't see any real issues with making it compulsory, it's not as though you're sending these guys off to do community service, they're actually doing something they enjoy doing, only this time it's on a bigger stage. If blokes really don't want to play, slap them with a one week suspension(not two), it's no big deal, they can sit out for a week and everyone can get on with it. I think we'd all be surprised how interesting it became given a few close encounters.

Whilst i think interleague at a senior levels is a load of rubbish and of minimal interest to anyone, it seems that the hfl in their wisdom will not drop it. after all it makes owen feel very important. The problem with one week suspensions dashin is that it will seriously disadvantage those clubs playing reasonable teams the week after. For a club which is playing bridgey after interleauge (mt lofty this year, correct me if im wrong) who cares if half the club is suspended, they will still get the win regardless. Expect some interesting players being taken off with injuries in the final minutes of games right across the HFL the week before interleauge.

And nor should they drop it, the majority of the guys who play get a kick out of it, i certainly did the couple times i played in it. My point about making the suspension one week instead of two is because two is a little harsh, but one week, regardless of who the team is playing is fair enough. Having said that no player should really skip the game. Everyone seemed to like the idea of the Lovelock shield, why should the game againse BL & G be any different? How else do we get a fair indication of who has the better league? As i said, if both leagues put their best sides on the park, i guarantee all of a sudden interst levels will rise. One match suspensions are fair enough, if the players don't like it, go to a different league, but anyone who complains about having to represent their league for one match is playing footy for the wrong reasons!

[BALLHOG]

I agree with you Howard on the imports getting treated like crap, but last year with the new guys doing a pre season and helping out with Oakbank I thought they got treated like everyone else.It wasn't until the season started when a few of them started to have a crack at some of the colts comming through and that's when things went bad because some of these young lads were out performing a few of these imports.

I reckon you blokes have got it all wrong. If a player comes to your club he should be welcomed and treated no different to another player that has been around forever. He shouldn't be judged diffferently either. You call them imports, blow ins whatever which creates a stigma and makes them uncomfortable and an expectation that may not be warranted.

So would i be considered an "Import" even though i have recently moved to SA and had to play somewhere? How does someone get pigeon holed, whats your criteria?[/quote]

An import to me is someone that sells himself to other clubs and goes where the most $$$$$ are. In your case I wouldn't call you an import.

[Gervais]

A couple of weeks ago the Courier had an article on the ins and outs of each team.

wasn't much mention of any ins for Onkas. can someone please advise of their new players ?

also, same article said that Bridgewater were looking at Brad Devries. has he signed with Bridgy or is he likely to go back to Onkas ?

[Bat Pad]

A couple of weeks ago the Courier had an article on the ins and outs of each team.

wasn't much mention of any ins for Onkas. can someone please advise of their new players ?

also, same article said that Bridgewater were looking at Brad Devries. has he signed with Bridgy or is he likely to go back to Onkas ?

He has signed with Bridgey. I believe Onkas have knocked back the clearence, however I thinkdue to signing with Bridgewater he cannot play for Onkas. So if they don't clear him he cannot play anywhere. I think thats how it works. He would win the clearence on appeal i would have thought

[toot toot]

A couple of weeks ago the Courier had an article on the ins and outs of each team.

wasn't much mention of any ins for Onkas. can someone please advise of their new players ?

also, same article said that Bridgewater were looking at Brad Devries. has he signed with Bridgy or is he likely to go back to Onkas ?

He has signed with Bridgey. I believe Onkas have knocked back the clearence, however I thinkdue to signing with Bridgewater he cannot play for Onkas. So if they don't clear him he cannot play anywhere. I think thats how it works. He would win the clearence on appeal i would have thought

in today's tiser there was a section for the SANFL teams & De Vries is listed as an out to Bridgewater

[Pumba]

i reckon about 50% of the talk on here is about bridgey and about 40% about birdwood - and they are 2 of the 3 worst teams in the league!