Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

[Amateur Footy]

Didn't need 2 umpires IMO, just one good one. The games between us and ICC wouldn't be pleasant to umpire. Andrew Wright is an interesting character, but he keeps the game in check so would have been a better option.

Association foots the bill for the 2nd umpire too.

I do find it weird that you guys would have 2 umpires............. did you have any explanation as to why you had two umpires?

Only heard that we had extra umpires this game for the one-dayer. My guess is umpires preferred two in our game Vs ICC as they haven't been pleasant in the past.

[wycbloods]

So was the game any more 'pleasant' because you had an extra umpire . Surely an A grade team in section two would have been a more worthwhile spot for the extra umpire.

[bazza1]

Did Caulders lodge an umpire report and mark it "for urgent attention" AF, cos the umpire in question would of been onto Peter Berkshire ( umpire director) straight away if anything was said against him.

[bazza1]

[quote="Amateur Footy"]. Andrew Wright is an interesting character, but he keeps the game in check so would have been a better option.

Andrew stopped the game on saturday to "tell off " J.Murphy, who was swearing very loudly from the boundary. Apparently a serial offender.

[wycbloods]

IMO i think that ICC, WYC and the Ramblers have made the finals for season 2008/09. That leaves one spot to fill. I think it is between Sheidow Pk, Plympton, Glenelg ANA and Keswick.

Who does everyone think will make it?

In Bold means i tip the side a chance to make finals to win

Plympton are still to play ICC, Mitchell Pk, Westminster Keswick

Sheidow Pk are still to play Ramblers, South Rd Coromandel and ICC I think they will need to win one outright to be a chance to take 4th spot.

Glenelg ANA are still to play Coromandel, WYC, keswick and Nth Haven They too will need an outright to make the 4 but with Coro and Nth Haven to play they are a chance to get it with their strong bowling line-up.

Keswick are still to play Westminster, Coromandel, Glenelg and Plympton They should win 3 more games this year which means they are a big chance to make it into fourth spot and an advantage is they play 2 of the other teams playing for a spot in the finals so they have the ability to decide their own destiny.

Sheidow probably have the toughest run their with Ramblers and ICC but they also have two games that they are a chance to win outright so there is still hope for them.

The bays are my tip to make the 4 and i know they will worry any team on their day so i am sure Ramblers and the Sharks would prefer to not see them there.

Plymptons chances hinge on beating Westminster and Keswick if they beat them and account for Mitchell Pk as i think they will then they will make it but i think they will drop one of those games.

Keswick will need to beat the bays and plympton to be a chance and i think that task may be a little too much for them. It will depend greatly on what bowling side they can get on the park, their best is very good but their bowling line-up is fragile without a couple of players. Lots of pressure on R Curyer to carry batting and bowling.

Good luck to everyone in the run home

Besides the heat making it a little harder for the likes of Glenelg, who had Coro on toast, and Sheidow, against Sth Rd this game, to get outrights i think my thoughts a few weeks ago are still on the money . Plympton still control their own destiny and if they win against Westminster and Keswick they will make the finals. Sheidow will desperately need to win outright against Coro and beat ICC and rely on Plympton losing a game. Glenelg are IMO the biggest threat to Plympton as they have the bowling line-up to skittle both Keswick and Nth haven so are a chance to get an outright and a win against both of those sides.

WYC and the Ramblers are a chance, if we both win this week, to be playing for the home final and advantage of the going through if the weather were to determine the outcome of the first final. Should make for a very interesting last game of the year.

[Amateur Footy]

. Andrew Wright is an interesting character, but he keeps the game in check so would have been a better option.

Andrew stopped the game on saturday to "tell off " J.Murphy, who was swearing very loudly from the boundary. Apparently a serial offender.

He is from what we saw Bazza. Opposite of Andrew from what I've seen.

And there hasn't been any report done for the umpiring or any reports made by the umpires from saturday that I am aware of. The incident was probably over a lot quicker than it could have been and there were no abusive insults said, just a 'disagreement on the decision'.

[pot hole]

Section 2, Sth Rd v Sheidow Pk, anyone know the score.

Also Morphy Pk doing there bit for the bushfire appeal by canning Tuesday night training and all are going to the 20/20 cricket match.

Sheidow had south road on toast at about 7 for 60 chasing 120, roads won it with 3 wickets in hand..

And talking about Andrew Wright... he would have to be the worst umpire in the comp

[Amateur Footy]

Andrew Wright is consistent which I can't say for some. I'll take him ahead of plenty of others.

Ray was caught not calling front foot no balls by our non-strikers on the weekend. He acknowledged he should have called them.

I don't mind bad umpires so much if they are consistent in their decisions. I reckon it's just the same couple of blokes we have problems with while most are pretty good.

[Real McCoy]

Has anyone seen this new proposal from ICC in regards to the hot weather policy ?

[Booney]

I too have a proposal for the assosciation.

Div 7 ( or 6 if acceptable )

- 40 over limited over match every second week.

- Played on week 2 of the 2 week games to allow presentations to be on the same night.

- If possible 12 teams, each team still playing 11 games.

- In hope of getting recently retired players back and keeping players who are thinking of retirement.

- Semi and GF's to be played on the Saturday of the 2 day comp finals so players in 1 day comp can get to the Sunday of the 2 day comp finals.

Imagine 4 or 5 blokes who recently retired with 1 or 2 from grades above who can only play the one week, juniors who are perhaps not quite ready for senior cricket get a taste of what it is like...

I think it is a good idea,but,it is my idea so I have to like it.

Thought?

[Amateur Footy]

Has anyone seen this new proposal from ICC in regards to the hot weather policy ?

Yes. I will not support it. Will create too much confusion amongst players. Current system is sensible.

Booney, what about all one day games in Sect 4 and lower, playing every week?

[Booney]

The reason I have gone 1 Div only and playing every second week is I know many recently retired players have retired as playing every week became too much of a burden on the body and the home life. Wives and children and often work are much more important than cricket and as you get older priorities change.

I have all the responsibilities of the above mentioned ( and I am sure other do to ). I had most of 06/07 off in a semi-retired state and enjoyed my summer Saturdays to myself. I am back playing this year and am loving it,but I must admit the days called off due to heat I enjoyed the extra time around the house.

So, for people like me who are not sure to retire or play on and for those that have recently retired I see it as a way to keep more people involved. I know the assosciation are not in favour of one day games, but I think fi properly proposed the the assosciation and clubs are given the opportunity to speak to past players this format would work very well.

[bay boy]

Has anyone seen this new proposal from ICC in regards to the hot weather policy ?

Yes. I will not support it. Will create too much confusion amongst players. Current system is sensible.

Booney, what about all one day games in Sect 4 and lower, playing every week?

What was the proposal but forward from ICC AF ?

[Roseboy]

Motion to add to both the above :-
“to give power to the Association executive, to change playing conditions when the BOM forecast a cool change for 12noon when earlier temperature of 40 degrees and above is forecast for that day and or either to shorten play by X numbers of over’s.”
and
“in finals all grades to play unless the forecast temperature is to be 44 degrees or above – games to have more drinks breaks”
and
“for section 1 grade – play for day to be cancelled only after the forecast temperature is to be 42 degrees or above.”

From.
ICC Sharks Cricket Club Inc.

I don't support any of the motions. I think all 3 are ordinary.

1. cool change - it's very rare the maximum is hit before the afternoon, so it will only cause confusion for all concerned, plus an added headache for contacting every player to ensure they know what's happening on the day. Nup, no good. In the bin.

2. So it can be 43 degrees playing finals? Ok for the fit-as-hell 21 year old guy, how about the 40+ year old guys playing in the lower sections? What if it's wet, do we play on then too? Player safety trumps all and the same rules should apply in finals to that in a normal game. Not thought through, shouldn't be carried.

3. see points 1 & 2 - too much confusion and again doesn't make sense. Not only do section 1 play for an extra hour or more, they're now expected to play in greater discomfort? Player safety comes in again - it's the whole reason it was brought back to 40 degrees and higher.

Overall - I think ICC are making the whole thing way too complicated where it need not be.

[Roseboy]

I too have a proposal for the assosciation.

Div 7 ( or 6 if acceptable )

- 40 over limited over match every second week.

- Played on week 2 of the 2 week games to allow presentations to be on the same night.

- If possible 12 teams, each team still playing 11 games.

- In hope of getting recently retired players back and keeping players who are thinking of retirement.

- Semi and GF's to be played on the Saturday of the 2 day comp finals so players in 1 day comp can get to the Sunday of the 2 day comp finals.

Imagine 4 or 5 blokes who recently retired with 1 or 2 from grades above who can only play the one week, juniors who are perhaps not quite ready for senior cricket get a taste of what it is like...

I think it is a good idea,but,it is my idea so I have to like it.

Thought?

I'd only like the idea more if it was my own

This gets around the 2 biggest sticking points I couldn't overcome myself... you're still having to get guys to play *every* week and 2, statistics. Playing 22 games a year will greatly alter a player's stats and I know many at our club might get frustrated by that.

It would solve so many of our problems. We have heaps of "casual" players who are keen to play now and then. Knowing they're only in the field for a max. of 40 overs every 2nd week and can still have every 2nd week off... gold.

I'm really trying to pick fault with it - coming up short... I'd definitely support it (would need to talk to the Ramblers committee to provide club support however).

The aim of an association like ours should be to promote cricket in general, this only adds to that.

[Booney]

IMO, if it were put out to clubs to vote on after consulting the playing group, more than 12 teams would nominate for it.

[Amateur Footy]

If assoc committee have over ruling power in play/no play when there is a cool change forecast they are leaving themselves open for litigation if someone gets hurt after they said games should go ahead. Don't know why they would even toy with the idea at the meeting.

I'm not one who's concerned about safety in the heat (but may well change my tune as I get older) but it's unfair to have to field in anything 40C or higher. Suppose a team has dominated all year and had to field on a 42C day in finals. Other team makes 300 and then a cool change comes in over night. Now the other team has great opportunity to win because the had the best conditions. Nope, let the top ranked side go thru IMO. They earnt it.

[wycbloods]

The reason I have gone 1 Div only and playing every second week is I know many recently retired players have retired as playing every week became too much of a burden on the body and the home life. Wives and children and often work are much more important than cricket and as you get older priorities change.

I have all the responsibilities of the above mentioned ( and I am sure other do to ). I had most of 06/07 off in a semi-retired state and enjoyed my summer Saturdays to myself. I am back playing this year and am loving it,but I must admit the days called off due to heat I enjoyed the extra time around the house.

So, for people like me who are not sure to retire or play on and for those that have recently retired I see it as a way to keep more people involved. I know the assosciation are not in favour of one day games, but I think fi properly proposed the the assosciation and clubs are given the opportunity to speak to past players this format would work very well.

Not a bad idea Booney and one that IMHO warrants being put forward to the association at the agm. Maybe you can put your thoughts in writing and send them to the Prez of WYC so he can lodge a motion with the association .

The only concern i would have is that a club couldn't have this as their only side in the comp. The would still need to have a side in sections 1,2,3,4, or 5 for instance so as to not stack that one day side.

[Booney]

The reason I have gone 1 Div only and playing every second week is I know many recently retired players have retired as playing every week became too much of a burden on the body and the home life. Wives and children and often work are much more important than cricket and as you get older priorities change.

I have all the responsibilities of the above mentioned ( and I am sure other do to ). I had most of 06/07 off in a semi-retired state and enjoyed my summer Saturdays to myself. I am back playing this year and am loving it,but I must admit the days called off due to heat I enjoyed the extra time around the house.

So, for people like me who are not sure to retire or play on and for those that have recently retired I see it as a way to keep more people involved. I know the assosciation are not in favour of one day games, but I think fi properly proposed the the assosciation and clubs are given the opportunity to speak to past players this format would work very well.

Not a bad idea Booney and one that IMHO warrants being put forward to the association at the agm. Maybe you can put your thoughts in writing and send them to the Prez of WYC so he can lodge a motion with the association .
The only concern i would have is that a club couldn't have this as their only side in the comp. The would still need to have a side in sections 1,2,3,4, or 5 for instance so as to not stack that one day side.

I did consider that, but getting hold of the bloke while he is sober enough to be coherent and understand this proposal is about as easy as him trying to hide in a shoe box!

Will see how I go.

[JWKDD]

Booney go to your local Mcdonalds and ask if you can have a shoe box from ronald, best chance you will ever have of getting bloods in a shoe box.

Any ideas how the Assoc. side will go this w/e against Churches?? Have heard they are quite confident from a mate who works with one of their players.