South Australian Churches and Community Cricket Association

[Phantom Gossiper]

interesting point though......do paralowie be happy to stay in div 1 and try again next year, or risk losing to rose park in the second innings and finish last...and be relegated to div 2 ??????

There would be no point in considering that as ladder positions are only used as a guide when working out divisions for next season.

thats the most frustrating thing about this association. All i see/hear in rules/constitution are buzz words like "intent" , "guide", "should". Rediculous as this is open to interpretations of the exec at that time.

The exec do all they can, but toughen up fellas. Use words like "will", "must", "shall".....

Bottom team SHALL be relegated, top team SHALL come up, unless the team coming up opts not to.

I agree with you on this matter, the only difference in opinion is no team should have the ability to "opt" not to go up unless they have a very good excuse or are clearly not capable of playing at that standard! Reward for success, demotion for failure..

[Phantom Gossiper]

cracker of a finish for sure!!! best finish to a season for many many years in my mind...inlcuding old independant centrals.

whats happens if equal points for 4th and 5th???? anything in the rules there??!?!?!?!?!??!

May be wrong but for mind i believe if you are tied it then moves into most wickets taken/most runs made calculation similar to like a net rate the tri series used to have..

like i said could be wrong, but fairly sure its something along these lines, perhaps Ecky can clarify.

Or we can just have a "bowl off" 20/20 style ahaha

[bloodybouncer]

News in.. rumor has it a certain left handed bowler in the lower divisions is on the verge of agreeing to a deal which will see him up in the top flight next season...

Bracken ??
Bruce Reid??
Gully ?? hehe

[Pidge]

It would definately be Gully. This Paralowie dominating the comp next season by recruiting heavily is interesting. Is there going to be a Paralowie / Para Vista syndicate? Will they try to recruit most of the current association team to make one team? Come on Phantom. Tell us what you know.

[bored]

It would definately be Gully. This Paralowie dominating the comp next season by recruiting heavily is interesting. Is there going to be a Paralowie / Para Vista syndicate? Will they try to recruit most of the current association team to make one team? Come on Phantom. Tell us what you know.

even though it would be awesome fun to play in a team with half the boys that went to melb, i dont see that happening young pidge....

[carey18]

We are a very welcoming crowd at out Paralowie!!!

[Phantom Gossiper]

It would definately be Gully. This Paralowie dominating the comp next season by recruiting heavily is interesting. Is there going to be a Paralowie / Para Vista syndicate? Will they try to recruit most of the current association team to make one team? Come on Phantom. Tell us what you know.

No they are not trying to recruit most of the current assoc team.. unless you've received a call i dont know about hehe

No the 'Roos are looking beyond the reaches of our association. I can confirm at least two A1 players and one A2 player from ATCA, a Div 1 player PDCA and 2 SACCA players look set to make the move North.

You mix that with some of the talent they have now, Quinton Graham, Barnes, Frith, Holland, Solton, Frith and it will be a most formidable side.

But for now the focus and attention is 100% focused on winning outright and powering on from there.

[Phantom Gossiper]

It would definately be Gully. This Paralowie dominating the comp next season by recruiting heavily is interesting. Is there going to be a Paralowie / Para Vista syndicate? Will they try to recruit most of the current association team to make one team? Come on Phantom. Tell us what you know.

even though it would be awesome fun to play in a team with half the boys that went to melb, i dont see that happening young pidge....

This is because half the blokes dont earn over 100k per year and the other half that do already play at Para Vista!

[carey18]

It would definately be Gully. This Paralowie dominating the comp next season by recruiting heavily is interesting. Is there going to be a Paralowie / Para Vista syndicate? Will they try to recruit most of the current association team to make one team? Come on Phantom. Tell us what you know.

No they are not trying to recruit most of the current assoc team.. unless you've received a call i dont know about hehe

No the 'Roos are looking beyond the reaches of our association. I can confirm at least two A1 players and one A2 player from ATCA, a Div 1 player PDCA and 2 SACCA players look set to make the move North.

You mix that with some of the talent they have now, Quinton Graham, Barnes, Frith, Holland, Solton, Frith and it will be a most formidable side.

But for now the focus and attention is 100% focused on winning outright and powering on from there.

Must be in games i havent been at!. Mark Frith is coming on late in the season and quinno is carrying a few injuries

[Phantom Gossiper]

It would definately be Gully. This Paralowie dominating the comp next season by recruiting heavily is interesting. Is there going to be a Paralowie / Para Vista syndicate? Will they try to recruit most of the current association team to make one team? Come on Phantom. Tell us what you know.

No they are not trying to recruit most of the current assoc team.. unless you've received a call i dont know about hehe

No the 'Roos are looking beyond the reaches of our association. I can confirm at least two A1 players and one A2 player from ATCA, a Div 1 player PDCA and 2 SACCA players look set to make the move North.

You mix that with some of the talent they have now, Quinton Graham, Barnes, Frith, Holland, Solton, Frith and it will be a most formidable side.

But for now the focus and attention is 100% focused on winning outright and powering on from there.

Must be in games i havent been at!. Mark Frith is coming on late in the season and quinno is carrying a few injuries

ahh sorry Hendo, i could be wrong! I thought he was still floating around! Quinno will be fresh as a daisy by next season..

[Ecky]

cracker of a finish for sure!!! best finish to a season for many many years in my mind...inlcuding old independant centrals.

whats happens if equal points for 4th and 5th???? anything in the rules there??!?!?!?!?!??!

May be wrong but for mind i believe if you are tied it then moves into most wickets taken/most runs made calculation similar to like a net rate the tri series used to have..

like i said could be wrong, but fairly sure its something along these lines, perhaps Ecky can clarify.

It's all on the website in the match rules

Where two or more teams have the same number of points, they will be ranked in descending order of percentage. For this purpose, a team’s percentage is the number of runs scored by that team per wicket lost in the season to date as a percentage of the number of runs scored against it per wicket taken.

[Ecky]

interesting point though......do paralowie be happy to stay in div 1 and try again next year, or risk losing to rose park in the second innings and finish last...and be relegated to div 2 ??????

There would be no point in considering that as ladder positions are only used as a guide when working out divisions for next season.

thats the most frustrating thing about this association. All i see/hear in rules/constitution are buzz words like "intent" , "guide", "should". Rediculous as this is open to interpretations of the exec at that time.

The exec do all they can, but toughen up fellas. Use words like "will", "must", "shall".....

Bottom team SHALL be relegated, top team SHALL come up, unless the team coming up opts not to.

In an ideal world, that would be how it is done, BUT...

Unfortunately we are an amateur association where the strength of teams can change a lot from year to year depending on who is available, so such a clear cut rule would never work in practice.

For example last year Adelaide Lutheran finished 5th in Div 1, and Rose Park finished 6th. Adelaide Lutheran lost 3 of their better players to Brooklyn Park and the availability of a number of other players was uncertain, so we requested to be dropped to Div 2. On the other hand, Rose Park felt that they could be competitive in Div 1 this season, so they requested to remain in Div 1.

The result? The most even Div 1 competition in many years, with Rose Park right in the finals mix, and Adel Luth struggling to make the finals in Div 2. If Rose Park were forced to go down and Adelaide Lutheran were forced to stay up, nobody would be happy and the games would be much more one-sided, prompting even more complaints!

Also, Brooklyn Park finished bottom of Div 4, but were promoted to Division 3 knowing that they would have a stronger team, and they have been very competitive in that division. If they were forced to be relegated to Div 5, then that division would become very uneven.

So surely you can't argue that the current policy has proven to be the correct one for this season?

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This is because half the blokes dont earn over 100k per year and the other half that do already play at Para Vista!

pfffft your getting it wrong. its the AVERAGE wage has to be 100k per year.... Ace makes up for the rest of the club

[Phantom Gossiper]

cracker of a finish for sure!!! best finish to a season for many many years in my mind...inlcuding old independant centrals.

whats happens if equal points for 4th and 5th???? anything in the rules there??!?!?!?!?!??!

May be wrong but for mind i believe if you are tied it then moves into most wickets taken/most runs made calculation similar to like a net rate the tri series used to have..

like i said could be wrong, but fairly sure its something along these lines, perhaps Ecky can clarify.

It's all on the website in the match rules

Where two or more teams have the same number of points, they will be ranked in descending order of percentage. For this purpose, a team’s percentage is the number of runs scored by that team per wicket lost in the season to date as a percentage of the number of runs scored against it per wicket taken.

hehe i knew i was on the right path

[Phantom Gossiper]

This is because half the blokes dont earn over 100k per year and the other half that do already play at Para Vista!

pfffft your getting it wrong. its the AVERAGE wage has to be 100k per year.... Ace makes up for the rest of the club

hahahaha!

[Goat Herder]

Can't you at least wait until the end of the season before you jump aboard the Paralowie gravy train, Mr Gossiper..?!?? Sounding like a Paralowie 100-gamer already, fair dinkum..

Unfortunately Gigs, the Association has been burnt by a myriad of trophy-hunting teams in the past who always claim they have been decimated by players walking out, yet strangely enough those same players who they cite end up fronting up the following season anyway and figuring prominently in Finals. The old Seacombe Gardens club was renown for this pathetic behaviour and their trophy hunters like Hillman and Hodgson!

You and I fail to comprehend why you wouldn't want to play at the highest level possible, but the mentality of trophy hunters who'd rather win by 200 runs each week is one of extreme weakness..

Therefore, I can see why the Association use the premiership tables as a 'guide'. I can assure you Rose Park did not want to drop to Div.2 and their desire to stay up has been vindicated by the fact they are still in the hunt for a Finals berth. Once you go down a grade, it can often be difficult to get back up.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Can't you at least wait until the end of the season before you jump aboard the Paralowie gravy train, Mr Gossiper..?!?? Sounding like a Paralowie 100-gamer already, fair dinkum..

Unfortunately Gigs, the Association has been burnt by a myriad of trophy-hunting teams in the past who always claim they have been decimated by players walking out, yet strangely enough those same players who they cite end up fronting up the following season anyway and figuring prominently in Finals. The old Seacombe Gardens club was renown for this pathetic behaviour and their trophy hunters like Hillman and Hodgson!

You and I fail to comprehend why you wouldn't want to play at the highest level possible, but the mentality of trophy hunters who'd rather win by 200 runs each week is one of extreme weakness..

Therefore, I can see why the Association use the premiership tables as a 'guide'. I can assure you Rose Park did not want to drop to Div.2 and their desire to stay up has been vindicated by the fact they are still in the hunt for a Finals berth. Once you go down a grade, it can often be difficult to get back up.

tsk tsk Mr Herder! Is you memory fading you that much in your "mature" age?? Read back and see i've been on the banwagon all season! Incase you forgot i clearly predicted they would give your "Million dollar babies" at Para Vista a hiding in the GF this season.

As for trophy hunters well they sicken me, you only need to look close enough im sure you will find plenty still floating around in the comp..

[Phantom Gossiper]

Can't you at least wait until the end of the season before you jump aboard the Paralowie gravy train, Mr Gossiper..?!?? Sounding like a Paralowie 100-gamer already, fair dinkum..

Unfortunately Gigs, the Association has been burnt by a myriad of trophy-hunting teams in the past who always claim they have been decimated by players walking out, yet strangely enough those same players who they cite end up fronting up the following season anyway and figuring prominently in Finals. The old Seacombe Gardens club was renown for this pathetic behaviour and their trophy hunters like Hillman and Hodgson!

You and I fail to comprehend why you wouldn't want to play at the highest level possible, but the mentality of trophy hunters who'd rather win by 200 runs each week is one of extreme weakness..

Therefore, I can see why the Association use the premiership tables as a 'guide'. I can assure you Rose Park did not want to drop to Div.2 and their desire to stay up has been vindicated by the fact they are still in the hunt for a Finals berth. Once you go down a grade, it can often be difficult to get back up.

Hmm i still question as to whether or not they made the right decision staying up. Granted they are still in the hunt but i attribute that more to the fact the other sides have had so many close mixed results, which never really put RP behind the 8 ball, however their loses have been some hefty ones, and with the loss of the Ranga Hicks it has def. hurt them.

[Keefy]

Can't you at least wait until the end of the season before you jump aboard the Paralowie gravy train, Mr Gossiper..?!?? Sounding like a Paralowie 100-gamer already, fair dinkum..

Unfortunately Gigs, the Association has been burnt by a myriad of trophy-hunting teams in the past who always claim they have been decimated by players walking out, yet strangely enough those same players who they cite end up fronting up the following season anyway and figuring prominently in Finals. The old Seacombe Gardens club was renown for this pathetic behaviour and their trophy hunters like Hillman and Hodgson!

You and I fail to comprehend why you wouldn't want to play at the highest level possible, but the mentality of trophy hunters who'd rather win by 200 runs each week is one of extreme weakness..

Therefore, I can see why the Association use the premiership tables as a 'guide'. I can assure you Rose Park did not want to drop to Div.2 and their desire to stay up has been vindicated by the fact they are still in the hunt for a Finals berth. Once you go down a grade, it can often be difficult to get back up.

Enough said about those 2!!!!

[leftarmoffie]

It would definately be Gully. This Paralowie dominating the comp next season by recruiting heavily is interesting. Is there going to be a Paralowie / Para Vista syndicate? Will they try to recruit most of the current association team to make one team? Come on Phantom. Tell us what you know.

No they are not trying to recruit most of the current assoc team.. unless you've received a call i dont know about hehe

No the 'Roos are looking beyond the reaches of our association. I can confirm at least two A1 players and one A2 player from ATCA, a Div 1 player PDCA and 2 SACCA players look set to make the move North.

You mix that with some of the talent they have now, Quinton Graham, Barnes, Frith, Holland, Solton, Frith and it will be a most formidable side.

But for now the focus and attention is 100% focused on winning outright and powering on from there.

Do we get told which ATCA club these players are coming from??