Just who is going to be the 10th team in D2??? - NO ONE???

[Rotter]

Amnesty from relegation is a ridiculous idea! Sorry boozehound, you'll have to dive back into your deep bag of resourcefulness and come up with a better idea.

I can see the team that finishes 8th being really happy to go down a division just to keep a team that doesn't deserve to be there in div 2. It would require being unfair to a team that has earnt their spot and for what benifit? The sensible solution is the current one, a div 3 team can go up if it chooses, otherwise Scotch stay put. Don't bring any other clubs into this silly situation, not of their making.

Yep, I agree. No room for creativity in this situation. Scotch made their bed yada yada yada..........

[Nearly Was]

Rotter, the reason for the highlights was because I mentioned 3 posters in my 1 response. I hope you approve .

[The Big Shrek]

Amnesty from relegation is a ridiculous idea! Sorry boozehound, you'll have to dive back into your deep bag of resourcefulness and come up with a better idea.

I can see the team that finishes 8th being really happy to go down a division just to keep a team that doesn't deserve to be there in div 2. It would require being unfair to a team that has earnt their spot and for what benifit? The sensible solution is the current one, a div 3 team can go up if it chooses, otherwise Scotch stay put. Don't bring any other clubs into this silly situation, not of their making.

Yep, I agree. No room for creativity in this situation. Scotch made their bed yada yada yada..........

Essentially you are asking another team to give up their rightfully earned spot in div 2 so that Scotch and another team can play silly buggers about the division they want to play in.

[Fricky]

Very interesting times ahead for SAAFL and this "Div 2 or not" decision. Maybe an idea could be for SAAFL to waive all SAAFL fees for the club chosing to play in Div 2 instead of Div 3, 4, 5 or wherever they come from. To my understanding this was a big reason for Edwardstown going to the Southern League since the fees are much less then Div 2 and they could not financially remain in SAAFL without going down a few divisions.

Big decision for every club, and although the team may get smashed every week my thoughts are they would learn how to be a better team on the field whether they stay up in Div 2 or go straight back down. My vote would be to go up.

[Esteban Vihaio]

Very interesting times ahead for SAAFL and this "Div 2 or not" decision. Maybe an idea could be for SAAFL to waive all SAAFL fees for the club chosing to play in Div 2 instead of Div 3, 4, 5 or wherever they come from. To my understanding this was a big reason for Edwardstown going to the Southern League since the fees are much less then Div 2 and they could not financially remain in SAAFL without going down a few divisions.

Big decision for every club, and although the team may get smashed every week my thoughts are they would learn how to be a better team on the field whether they stay up in Div 2 or go straight back down. My vote would be to go up.

Great idea..... I can see one club taking this up.

[Jimmy_041]

EV - why? Becaue of the fees or they would jump at a chance at D2

[Esteban Vihaio]

EV - why? Becaue of the fees or they would jump at a chance at D2

Fees.... If these clubs are wary of D2, rightly or wrongly, the chance to add another $10 - $12k to the balance sheet would be too good to be true.

[Nearly Was]

EV it's not just about money. You could shatter a side for years if they didn't have the personnel to handle the grade. A2 is a strong comp, especially this year and if a side went up underprepared they could get horribly smashed. It has to be a balance.

[Esteban Vihaio]

EV it's not just about money. You could shatter a side for years if they didn't have the personnel to handle the grade. A2 is a strong comp, especially this year and if a side went up underprepared they could get horribly smashed. It has to be a balance.

This is a possibility, but it could also set you up for years to come.... A lot of clubs operate in debt and chance to move out or at least reduce that debt would be awfully tempting.

[The Big Shrek]

EV it's not just about money. You could shatter a side for years if they didn't have the personnel to handle the grade. A2 is a strong comp, especially this year and if a side went up underprepared they could get horribly smashed. It has to be a balance.

Very good post Nearly Was, exactly the reason Scotch and SMOSH want to go down. Still, no guts no glory and I reckon if you think you can handle it it is a great opportunity. There is little certainty in football and moving up a div like this is a gift. You could be the best side all year and miss out on a GF like PAOC or us to a certain extent last year.

[heater31]

So what is happening with the 9th team in each grade? Weren't they all given the option of staying up?

Does that mean we could have 11 teams in D3?

At THIS stage only 9 teams have nominated for Div 2 and yes 11 have nominated for Div 3. We all know that this will never happen and something will occur to make it a 10 team competition but that is the state of play at the moment Jimmy and nobody knows the answer of how to balance the Divisions out. You can bet one team will want to come up and try to play in Div 2 and just try to stay there. Clubs who believe they are on the up and up will take on the option. Someone like Golden Grove for instance I am sure would give it a crack if given a chance. What an opportunity to a club if they think they can match it. Saves a lot of years of heart ache to jump 2 or 3 grades quickly

no club should be given the option to just jump a division. The 9th placed team in div 2 from 2008 should forced to stay up (who ever that is) they are just glory hunting by nominating for D3

Yeah but can you really do that Heater?? The system in 2 up,2 down. The amateur league can't go forcing clubs to go against rules they have employed for a very long time just because another club pulled the pin.

Yes, effectively after Edwardstown lost their balls and went off to find easier competition, every club below them moved up a finishing position. Therefore the club finishing 9th after the minor round is no longer in the relegation zone as they are now eighth. I would think that the SAAFL would also have the final say on where each club plays so it shouldn't be an issue apart that it should have been sorted in December 08 and not February 09.

[Jimmy_041]

Another rumour Heater - Glenunga and you are going down the aisle....

[Flipper]

Give it a crack! It may turn out to be a failure for your club but if you could pull it off it would be a bold statement to the SAAFL football community of how strong and determined your club is!!! If it does fail will take a couple of years to rebuild maybe.

Sounds like clubs are not backing themselves and mayb scarred of some hard work.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Give it a crack! It may turn out to be a failure for your club but if you could pull it off it would be a bold statement to the SAAFL football community of how strong and determined your club is!!! If it does fail will take a couple of years to rebuild maybe.

Sounds like clubs are not backing themselves and mayb scarred of some hard work.

Not hard work, a club in div 4/5 would be pure insanity. There is no way any club in those divisions will be competative. Does not matter on your clubs spirit or it's past,if blokes are getting belted by 150+ points each week they are going to lose intrest. For the sake of 10k it could undo years of hard work within 6 months.

[Flipper]

LK I cannot see a team from div 4/5 being offered a spot in div 2 your right it would be a massive risk. I was not talking about Div 4/5 clubs. I think that is fantasy that the league would let a team skip 1 or 2 Div. But my thinking is based on common sense.

Although if it was offered to the mighty dolphins i would say lets give it a crack!

When the dolphins were relegated from div3 we wouldve killed for the oppourtunity to stay up.

I will applaud the team that takes a risk and grabs the oppourtunity with both hands.

[Nearly Was]

Bearing in mind gents Scotch haven't officially declined A2 yet, or have they?

[Hamstring]

I can't believe I am saying this "Well spoken Boozehound." That suggestion of a years amnesty from relegation is an extremely sensible solution.
Just nobody is a person pertaining to be in the know when he knows diddly. Blackcat is right in that the Amateur league HAVE NOT contacted Clubs (in our case Kilburn) re A2. IF it eventuates we would obviously look at it but we have recruited for A3 not A2 and there is a big difference.
Just nobody until you have the balls to nominate an affiliation with a Club and be accountable stop trying to be the know all smart arse you are trying to be. That doubles for [b]Hamstring as well[/b], maybe he should go back to selling his raffle tickets or become a boundary umpire (heaven forbid for the opposition sides) again.
FYI Phil Martin is no longer on the KFCC board , he has retired due to building a new home over on the Peninsular.

I'm a little lost Nearly Was - cant you read or was a Grade 2 graduate what you "nearly was". It clearly states that I am playing for Uni - that means my affiliation is with Uni. Its my first year in Adelaide so you have NFI what I did or am doing. So, I will withdraw the comment and we will all sit a wait for you to accept or decline. If you accept, I will personally send you an apology

[The Big Shrek]

I can't believe I am saying this "Well spoken Boozehound." That suggestion of a years amnesty from relegation is an extremely sensible solution.
Just nobody is a person pertaining to be in the know when he knows diddly. Blackcat is right in that the Amateur league HAVE NOT contacted Clubs (in our case Kilburn) re A2. IF it eventuates we would obviously look at it but we have recruited for A3 not A2 and there is a big difference.
Just nobody until you have the balls to nominate an affiliation with a Club and be accountable stop trying to be the know all smart arse you are trying to be. That doubles for [b]Hamstring as well[/b], maybe he should go back to selling his raffle tickets or become a boundary umpire (heaven forbid for the opposition sides) again.
FYI Phil Martin is no longer on the KFCC board , he has retired due to building a new home over on the Peninsular.

I'm a little lost Nearly Was - cant you read or was a Grade 2 graduate what you "nearly was". It clearly states that I am playing for Uni - that means my affiliation is with Uni. Its my first year in Adelaide so you have NFI what I did or am doing. So, I will withdraw the comment and we will all sit a wait for you to accept or decline. If you accept, I will personally send you an apology

Well, well, well hammy. If you are going to pick up inconsistencies with posts lets start with you.

Sounds like you have conned another classmate to lend you their e-mail address TBS - I haven't found you around the campus, but I will find you this year. Driving cabs after hours with your mates?

So have you been at Uni in Adelaide before? Seems strange that you would say "I haven't found you around the campus" if you have never actually been there.

Two options, first is you are making up a cover story for your identity as you go along. Second is that you are a snotty nosed little 17 year old trying to let everyone know how clever he is because he goes to Uni even though he's never actually been there.

When you have never played football in this league it makes you look silly when you come on here and try to act as if you have some rivalry with a club. Go away and post on the C grade thread where you will be playing. I have a mate who coaches the Roseworthy Uni side (C2 I think), I'll ring him up and see if he'll let you have a game as a favour. God knows you'll need all the help you can get.

[The Big Shrek]

By the way Nearly Was, I believe Just Nobody's ID is the worst kept secret on here. He is the boy wonder Robin to Hodge's Batman.

[test]

I can't believe I am saying this "Well spoken Boozehound." That suggestion of a years amnesty from relegation is an extremely sensible solution.
Just nobody is a person pertaining to be in the know when he knows diddly. Blackcat is right in that the Amateur league HAVE NOT contacted Clubs (in our case Kilburn) re A2. IF it eventuates we would obviously look at it but we have recruited for A3 not A2 and there is a big difference.
Just nobody until you have the balls to nominate an affiliation with a Club and be accountable stop trying to be the know all smart arse you are trying to be. That doubles for Hamstring as well, maybe he should go back to selling his raffle tickets or become a boundary umpire (heaven forbid for the opposition sides) again.
FYI Phil Martin is no longer on the KFCC board , he has retired due to building a new home over on the Peninsular.

well as far as recruiting goes i certainly dont know everyone you have but getting 4 players back to the club with div 1 experience seems pretty solid recruiting, dont most clubs try and get the best players they can? as apposed to recruiting teams for each division?