Bushfires

[Thiele]

Please don't shot me but i would like to see some Stimulus Package to go the Bushfire Victims

I know that the fedral goverment has pledge 10 million Dollars

I know that the States have Pledge 2 millon Dollars

I Know that the banks will pledge Millons of Dollars

[Mr66]

Regardless of whether Brown is right, his timing is disgraceful

[Dutchy]

I think arsonists need to be forced into seeing, face to face, their victims or victims families just to see the misery and despair they have caused.

I honestly dont think they wouldnt care CP, thats their mindset unfortuantely

[LaughingKookaburra]

Please don't shot me but i would like to see some Stimulus Package to go the Bushfire Victims

I know that the fedral goverment has pledge 10 million Dollars

I know that the States have Pledge 2 millon Dollars

I Know that the banks will pledge Millons of Dollars

Totally agree,if every Australian receiving the stimuluspackage donated $50 it would be unreal for the victums. I say give every1 $900 and give the rest to these people at such a difficult time.

[heater31]

The thing is though this is 25 years after ash Wednesday. With all the resources we have now this is terrible, if it happened 25 years ago i'd hate to imagine the scenario

Its a problem that Authorities are reactive to rather than proactive. They tend to do something about it after the horse has bolted. The Australian Standard for the building of dwellings in risk areas has been under review since 2005 and still hasn't been updated. After the Eyre Peninsula Fires of 2005 the SA Government classified all council areas affected by it as bushfire risk areas. What about the neighbouring councils????? they are just as at risk as those that were burnt


Also what affects this event is going to have on the mental health of those involved. I believe that some people from the 2005 fires here are still receiving treatment and probably will for the rest of their lives

[JAS]

For those with Facebook...here's one way to show a little bit of support...I picked this one cos it has the most members and is in support of all involved...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/grou ... 8846541698
'Applaud the CFA heroes & empathise with the victims of the 09 Vic bushfires'

There are others if you do a search for "bushfires" etc.

Regards
JAS

[JK]

I think arsonists need to be forced into seeing, face to face, their victims or victims families just to see the misery and despair they have caused.

I honestly dont think they wouldnt care CP, thats their mindset unfortuantely

Im not sure mate ... From the little I've read on the illness that plagues some/many arsonists, their chief fascination is with fire itself .. Im not sure many see past the allure of the flame to the devastation it causes?

[Mr66]

I think arsonists need to be forced into seeing, face to face, their victims or victims families just to see the misery and despair they have caused.

I honestly dont think they wouldnt care CP, thats their mindset unfortuantely

Im not sure mate ... From the little I've read on the illness that plagues some/many arsonists, their chief fascination is with fire itself .. Im not sure many see past the allure of the flame to the devastation it causes?

..and a lot of them (most?) will stand around and masturbate while watching the carnage they've created.

[JAS]

It might be stating the bleeding obvious but one suggestion for everybody is to open accounts with photo album sites like Webshots and Flickr. Having watched people being interviewed at various times after floods and fires etc one of the main causes of distress is the loss of photo's...especially weddings/christenings and the like.

If you scan them into sites like these at least you can print copies later...even if your computer is destroyed...and you won't be tempted to waste precious time looking for photo albums at home. Do it for elderly relatives who don't have computers as well. It might not seem like much but photo's can be very precious and could mean a hell of a lot to people afterwards.

Regards
JAS

[JAS]

If anyone is interested in seeing how it's being reported globally then this is a link to the news service I use...

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Hot+Topics/A ... n+Heatwave

Regards
JAS

[Punk Rooster]

..and a lot of them (most?) will stand around and masturbate while watching the carnage they've created.

you an Abramelin fan too?

[Squawk]

The patrols in the hills made by police yesterday probably had some help in deterring arson.

Got it in one, Spelly. This initiative is a very quiet yet big achiever.

If anyone wants to achieve something good out of this in SA, ask everyone you know who lives in a bushfire risk area if they have a household bushfire plan prepared and if not, "make" them do it with every bit of encouragement. Full details are at http://www.cfs.sa.gov.au.

I had my evacuation kit organised to go Friday night for Saturday, and it wasn't much fun deciding what to leave behind. Fortunately, I didn't have to go. SA had a lot of good luck and a lot of good fortune yesterday.

[JAS]

Sky News here are now reporting that the toll has reached 96

Regards
JAS

[JAS]

From the AdelaideNow website:

How you can help.

Donations to the Victorian Bushfire Relief Fund can be made at any National Australia Bank. BSB: 082-001. Account: 860 046 797.
Donate blood at the Australian Red Cross Blood Service - 13 14 95.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

For anyone outside Oz who doesn't use internet banking and wants to donate the Aussie Red Cross website now has a secure form to donate by credit/debit card to the fund...worked ok for me...

https://www.redcross.org.au/Donations/o ... ations.asp

Regards
JAS

[TroyGFC]

On radio just then said death toll risen to 108.

I was thinking I donate my $950 from stimulis package to the victims.

[Psyber]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/530 ... 108-lives/

108 dead in bushfires.
Australia's worst ever bushfires have claimed 108 lives, wiped out towns and destroyed 750 homes. Hotline: 1800 240 667

[oldfella]

I do not wish to trivialize the enormity of this tragedy that will affect those left for years but is this the cost of not allowing within national parks & other environmental areas appropriate clearing & fire breaks.

Does this reflect the hard line environmental approach of Government, Councils and green groups - I personally feel that the situation is out of balance between human safety & the environment.

[Amateur Footy]

For fire breaks to have any impact in weather conditions like that experienced by Victoria the burns need to be alongside homes, not in national parks. The fires will not be stopped or slowed by breaks because the fires can spot up to several km ahead of the fire front. The breaks can reduce the intensity and radiant heat of the fire close to homes.

Years ago my family would invite the CFS to burn the northern end of our property every year to reduce the fuel load near the house. Not only does this reduce risk of losing the home, but provides training to CFS in actually putting out fires.

[TroyGFC]

I remember the CFS used to burn off the land around Marino back in 80's but then stoopped due to complaints of smoke. Maybe this needs to be looked at starting up again controlled fires by CFS.

[locky801]

108 people confirmed dead @ 7:30am...9/2/09
750 houses destroyed @ 7:30..9/2/09
Townships like Marysville, Kinglake, Labertouche, Narbethong, Pheasant Creek and others completely destroyed


As of now 26 fires are still burning 12 of which are out of control, arson is expected for most fires.

98% of Marysville is burnt to the ground and hundreds of houses lost in Kinglake as it too has almost been completely wiped out.