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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:44 am

Ok, well can I suggest if you don't like the thread well dont write on it. As I said it's not like im personally attacking anyone, if we took everything serious in life we'd be very angry people :D
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby wycbloods » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:47 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Ok, well can I suggest if you don't like the thread well dont write on it. As I said it's not like im personally attacking anyone, if we took everything serious in life we'd be very angry people :D


I asked a serious question once i read the thread and now that has been answered you are right i have no further reason to read it :D
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:14 pm

wycbloods wrote:Nah i just find it funny people sit behind a computer screen and call someone who has/is playing for their country a dud. I can understand people having an opinion that they are not good enough to be playing for Austalia but to call them a dud is poor form IMHO.


Spot on. In order to play for Australia, a cricketer has to excel at various levels of cricket, through the grade system, then Sheffield Shield (the toughest sub-Test competition in the world) , before even getting selected. This means they have already proven themselves at a high standard of cricket before getting an Aussie spot. There is no such thing as a "dud" playing for Australia, only those who couldn't quite reach the ultimate standard once they got there. No shame in that. If it was easy, everyone would be playing there.

I think in order to gain perspective, and appreciation, a lot of posters on these forums should do themselves a favour and go out to Grade matches on the rare times these guys play and witness how superior they are at that level.

And to those who think some of us take the game too seriously, forums are not just about coming online and trying to me a comedian (and failing miserably), there are SOME people who actually enjoy balanced and informed conversation about the game ... and unfortunately there's nowhere you can go except forums like this.
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby rod_rooster » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:30 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
wycbloods wrote:Nah i just find it funny people sit behind a computer screen and call someone who has/is playing for their country a dud. I can understand people having an opinion that they are not good enough to be playing for Austalia but to call them a dud is poor form IMHO.


Spot on. In order to play for Australia, a cricketer has to excel at various levels of cricket, through the grade system, then Sheffield Shield (the toughest sub-Test competition in the world) , before even getting selected. This means they have already proven themselves at a high standard of cricket before getting an Aussie spot. There is no such thing as a "dud" playing for Australia, only those who couldn't quite reach the ultimate standard once they got there. No shame in that. If it was easy, everyone would be playing there.

I think in order to gain perspective, and appreciation, a lot of posters on these forums should do themselves a favour and go out to Grade matches on the rare times these guys play and witness how superior they are at that level.

And to those who think some of us take the game too seriously, forums are not just about coming online and trying to me a comedian (and failing miserably), there are SOME people who actually enjoy balanced and informed conversation about the game ... and unfortunately there's nowhere you can go except forums like this.


Awfully serious comment there AH. For what it's worth i haven't noticed how superior Dan Cullen is to others at grade level. He's not but he got picked for Australia. Clearly everyone knows that to reach even A grade district level guys have to have a fair bit of ability and to play at state level you have to be very good but sometimes selectors stuff up. The term "dud" is relative. Obviously these guys are better than you or me but in terms of international cricket they are "duds". Some guys who have played for Australia have been "duds" at state level as well. This doesn't mean they aren't any good just that they aren't up to it and got lucky to be picked.
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby Hondo » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:58 pm

I understand wcybloods' and AH's comments. Being a keyboard warrior and calling someone a "dud" IS personally attacking them. Imagine if they read it. If it was you, you'd be insulted.

I am sure these guys type their name into google and see all this stuff. Well, most would even if they pretend they ignore these forums.

Anyway, enough moralising. My contribution to the list of "luckiest Australian players" ( ;) ) is: Beau Casson. Beau, if you read this, representing your State is something most of us only dream of :lol:

Rod, I thought surely you'd say someone else! Someone who plays for QLD ... :D
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby rod_rooster » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:03 pm

hondo71 wrote:I understand wcybloods' and AH's comments. Being a keyboard warrior and calling someone a "dud" IS personally attacking them. Imagine if they read it :shock: If it was you, you'd be insulted.

I am sure these guys type their name into google and see all this stuff. Well, most would even if they pretend they ignore these forums.

Anyway, enough moralising. My contribution to the list of "luckiest Australian players" ( ;) ) is: Beau Casson.

Beau, if you read this, representing your State is something most of us only dream of :lol:


Something he can only dream of now as well :lol: ;)
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:16 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
wycbloods wrote:Nah i just find it funny people sit behind a computer screen and call someone who has/is playing for their country a dud. I can understand people having an opinion that they are not good enough to be playing for Austalia but to call them a dud is poor form IMHO.


Spot on. In order to play for Australia, a cricketer has to excel at various levels of cricket, through the grade system, then Sheffield Shield (the toughest sub-Test competition in the world) , before even getting selected. This means they have already proven themselves at a high standard of cricket before getting an Aussie spot. There is no such thing as a "dud" playing for Australia, only those who couldn't quite reach the ultimate standard once they got there. No shame in that. If it was easy, everyone would be playing there.

I think in order to gain perspective, and appreciation, a lot of posters on these forums should do themselves a favour and go out to Grade matches on the rare times these guys play and witness how superior they are at that level.

And to those who think some of us take the game too seriously, forums are not just about coming online and trying to me a comedian (and failing miserably), there are SOME people who actually enjoy balanced and informed conversation about the game ... and unfortunately there's nowhere you can go except forums like this.


I think you'd just enjoy everyone telling you how right you are. You are the biggest cricket snob on here. Go start a 'balanced and informed discussion' thread.

Biggest dud in the squad at the moment: D Hussey.

Biggest dud ever: Dorey.
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby dinglinga » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:51 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
wycbloods wrote:Nah i just find it funny people sit behind a computer screen and call someone who has/is playing for their country a dud. I can understand people having an opinion that they are not good enough to be playing for Austalia but to call them a dud is poor form IMHO.


Spot on. In order to play for Australia, a cricketer has to excel at various levels of cricket, through the grade system, then Sheffield Shield (the toughest sub-Test competition in the world) , before even getting selected. This means they have already proven themselves at a high standard of cricket before getting an Aussie spot. There is no such thing as a "dud" playing for Australia, only those who couldn't quite reach the ultimate standard once they got there. No shame in that. If it was easy, everyone would be playing there.

I think in order to gain perspective, and appreciation, a lot of posters on these forums should do themselves a favour and go out to Grade matches on the rare times these guys play and witness how superior they are at that level.

And to those who think some of us take the game too seriously, forums are not just about coming online and trying to me a comedian (and failing miserably), there are SOME people who actually enjoy balanced and informed conversation about the game ... and unfortunately there's nowhere you can go except forums like this.


I think you'd just enjoy everyone telling you how right you are. You are the biggest cricket snob on here. Go start a 'balanced and informed discussion' thread.

Biggest dud in the squad at the moment: D Hussey.

Biggest dud ever: Dorey.


Here we go again ..... when the chips are down we are calling who are duds.... ill tell u who the duds are ....its ppl on here very quick to critise and slag some1 who has reached international or even state level yet have never had the patience, discipline or skill to get the highest level ... theres my two bobs worth

and quick the wheel turns last month we wanted dave hussey in the team
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby dinglinga » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:55 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Marsh is getting a run because we have to start looking to the future, the next two World Cups will be tough if we don't start blooding some youth.


That would be fine, however the selectors are completely ignoring the fact that Marsh is a dud.


Here endeth the lesson. Surely we don't need to hand out caps to blokes 'because they are young'. David Hussey can come in AND play the next world cup. You don't need to plan two world cups ahead for the lottery that is one day cricket.

regards,

REB

The Big Shrek wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
wycbloods wrote:Nah i just find it funny people sit behind a computer screen and call someone who has/is playing for their country a dud. I can understand people having an opinion that they are not good enough to be playing for Austalia but to call them a dud is poor form IMHO.


Spot on. In order to play for Australia, a cricketer has to excel at various levels of cricket, through the grade system, then Sheffield Shield (the toughest sub-Test competition in the world) , before even getting selected. This means they have already proven themselves at a high standard of cricket before getting an Aussie spot. There is no such thing as a "dud" playing for Australia, only those who couldn't quite reach the ultimate standard once they got there. No shame in that. If it was easy, everyone would be playing there.

I think in order to gain perspective, and appreciation, a lot of posters on these forums should do themselves a favour and go out to Grade matches on the rare times these guys play and witness how superior they are at that level.

And to those who think some of us take the game too seriously, forums are not just about coming online and trying to me a comedian (and failing miserably), there are SOME people who actually enjoy balanced and informed conversation about the game ... and unfortunately there's nowhere you can go except forums like this.


I think you'd just enjoy everyone telling you how right you are. You are the biggest cricket snob on here. Go start a 'balanced and informed discussion' thread.

Biggest dud in the squad at the moment: D Hussey.

Biggest dud ever: Dorey.



make up ur mind shrek
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby NFC » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:04 pm

Dan Cullen and Doug Bollinger. And McDonald.

Oh and yes, forgot about Dorey. He's #1.
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:04 pm

hondo71 wrote:I understand wcybloods' and AH's comments. Being a keyboard warrior and calling someone a "dud" IS personally attacking them. Imagine if they read it. If it was you, you'd be insulted.

I am sure these guys type their name into google and see all this stuff. Well, most would even if they pretend they ignore these forums.

Anyway, enough moralising. My contribution to the list of "luckiest Australian players" ( ;) ) is: Beau Casson. Beau, if you read this, representing your State is something most of us only dream of :lol:

Rod, I thought surely you'd say someone else! Someone who plays for QLD ... :D


LMAO. So people who ignore these comments spend time Googling their names ha ha. Nice one hondo. ;)

regards,

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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:46 pm

I really doubt that some bloke on a huge money contract from Cricket Australia would give a s**t what a Dud like me has to say. See there you go,don't take life so seriously. I played A grade cricket (Can't any more due to work) and I was a dud with the bat and ball. Whats the old saying "It takes 1 to know 1". :lol:
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:27 pm

dinglinga wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Marsh is getting a run because we have to start looking to the future, the next two World Cups will be tough if we don't start blooding some youth.


That would be fine, however the selectors are completely ignoring the fact that Marsh is a dud.


Here endeth the lesson. Surely we don't need to hand out caps to blokes 'because they are young'. David Hussey can come in AND play the next world cup. You don't need to plan two world cups ahead for the lottery that is one day cricket.

regards,

REB

The Big Shrek wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
wycbloods wrote:Nah i just find it funny people sit behind a computer screen and call someone who has/is playing for their country a dud. I can understand people having an opinion that they are not good enough to be playing for Austalia but to call them a dud is poor form IMHO.


Spot on. In order to play for Australia, a cricketer has to excel at various levels of cricket, through the grade system, then Sheffield Shield (the toughest sub-Test competition in the world) , before even getting selected. This means they have already proven themselves at a high standard of cricket before getting an Aussie spot. There is no such thing as a "dud" playing for Australia, only those who couldn't quite reach the ultimate standard once they got there. No shame in that. If it was easy, everyone would be playing there.

I think in order to gain perspective, and appreciation, a lot of posters on these forums should do themselves a favour and go out to Grade matches on the rare times these guys play and witness how superior they are at that level.

And to those who think some of us take the game too seriously, forums are not just about coming online and trying to me a comedian (and failing miserably), there are SOME people who actually enjoy balanced and informed conversation about the game ... and unfortunately there's nowhere you can go except forums like this.


I think you'd just enjoy everyone telling you how right you are. You are the biggest cricket snob on here. Go start a 'balanced and informed discussion' thread.

Biggest dud in the squad at the moment: D Hussey.

Biggest dud ever: Dorey.



make up ur mind shrek


What!?!?!?!? I need to make up my mind even though I have only said the one thing? Because I don't agree with REB? Crikey ding, that's a dud dorey post!
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby dinglinga » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:34 am

nah its more like a chris matthews post ...way off the mark...
cheers TBS u kilburn dud
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby The Big Shrek » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:42 am

dinglinga wrote:nah its more like a chris matthews post ...way off the mark...
cheers TBS u kilburn dud


No worries, a Kilburn dud still beats a Salisbury dud 7 days a week. Especially when the Salisbury dud makes no sense.
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby McAlmanac » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:51 am

John Watkins, leg spinner, 1973 v Pakistan. 6-1-21-0 with plenty of wides (in the old days when they didn't count on the bowlers figures). Plucked from club cricket in Newcastle with almost no first class experience and hailed as the new mystery spinner a la Johnny Gleeson. Oddly, he was a bunny with the bat but made 36 to set up a win.
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby Media Park » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:54 am

greg campbell (debuted in the 89 Ashes). absoulte s###truck...
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:50 am

I remember watching Glenn Trimble debut in a ODI for Australia in 86 and forgot how to bowl, poor bugger struggled to land the ball on the pitch with his medium-pacers, he ended up playing in another ODI where Australia got bowled out for 70 vs NZ in Adelaide.
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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:00 am

McAlmanac wrote:John Watkins, leg spinner, 1973 v Pakistan. 6-1-21-0 with plenty of wides (in the old days when they didn't count on the bowlers figures). Plucked from club cricket in Newcastle with almost no first class experience and hailed as the new mystery spinner a la Johnny Gleeson. Oddly, he was a bunny with the bat but made 36 to set up a win.


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Re: Who is the BIGGEST dud to play cricket for Australia?

Postby westozfalcon » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:36 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Chris Matthews who couldn't hit the Gabba pitch on his lamentable test debut.

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That reminds me of Glenn Trimble from QLD who debuted in a one-day international in the mid-80's and sprayed the ball around like weedkiller.
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