Unbelievable !!

[AFLflyer]

following this story today makes me feel sick! i thought the belgium child care massacre was bad - this is equally as shocking and from our backyard!

[A Mum]

I spoke to my friend in Melbourne this morning, and she said being so close to it all has affected everyone really badly.

[Lightning McQueen]

This is where capital punishment should come into play, witnesses, an obvious situation, society shouldn't have to foot the bill to rehabilitate the likes of this mongrel.

He'll probably plead insanity and go to a mental institution and eat steak and play pool & ping pong every friggin day.

[Psyber]

He may have been genuinely off his chump, actually. It is hard to imagine anyone doing something like this otherwise...

[AFLflyer]

This is where capital punishment should come into play, witnesses, an obvious situation, society shouldn't have to foot the bill to rehabilitate the likes of this mongrel.

He'll probably plead insanity and go to a mental institution and eat steak and play pool & ping pong every friggin day.

agree!!

[Lightning McQueen]

He may have been genuinely off his chump, actually. It is hard to imagine anyone doing something like this otherwise...

Stiff Friggin Sh!t, too bad, if his brain is that demented, the world doesn't need him. I agree with you, but I cannot for the life of me see that as an excuse.

[redden whites]

He may have been genuinely off his chump, actually. It is hard to imagine anyone doing something like this otherwise...

[hearts on fire]

I reckon they should throw him off the bridge or give him a slow and painful death.

[Leaping Lindner]

It's an indescribable tradegy. However if you want to start executing people with obvious mental problems I would suggest moving to Texas. It's all the rage there.

[rod_rooster]

It's an indescribable tradegy. However if you want to start executing people with obvious mental problems I would suggest moving to Texas. It's all the rage there.

I don't disagree with the sentiment LL and i am not one in favour of capital punishment but what is an appropriate punishment in such a case? It pretty much seems at the moment you can do anything and say you are insane and get a relatively lean sentence. I don't know the answer by the way i am just asking the question. I'm not sure there is a good answer.

[Leaping Lindner]

It's an indescribable tradegy. However if you want to start executing people with obvious mental problems I would suggest moving to Texas. It's all the rage there.

I don't disagree with the sentiment LL and i am not one in favour of capital punishment but what is an appropriate punishment in such a case? It pretty much seems at the moment you can do anything and say you are insane and get a relatively lean sentence. I don't know the answer by the way i am just asking the question. I'm not sure there is a good answer.

No doubt. I could cite many instances of "justice" in this state over the past couple of years that beggar belief. The seemingly obvious one in this case would be incarcerated in an appropriate institution at the Governor's pleasure. Mind you an overhaul of the judiciary in Victoria wouldn't go astray either.

[JK]

It's an indescribable tradegy. However if you want to start executing people with obvious mental problems I would suggest moving to Texas. It's all the rage there.

I don't disagree with the sentiment LL and i am not one in favour of capital punishment but what is an appropriate punishment in such a case? It pretty much seems at the moment you can do anything and say you are insane and get a relatively lean sentence. I don't know the answer by the way i am just asking the question. I'm not sure there is a good answer.

No doubt. I could cite many instances of "justice" in this state over the past couple of years that beggar belief. The seemingly obvious one in this case would be incarcerated in an appropriate institution at the Governor's pleasure. Mind you an overhaul of the judiciary in Victoria wouldn't go astray either.

How was this bloke one the cops didn't shoot over there?

[smac]

Another case of a father going troppo after a custody hearing (his was yesterday apparently). Counselling should be mandatory during and after such cases. Such a sad result that could have possibly been avoided.

[JAS]

It's quite frightening how often this seems to happen. I just did a search on Yahoo for "woman throws children from bridge" cos there was a case here not long ago...on a bridge in Glasgow IRC. Didn't find the story I was looking for but couldn't believe just how many other cases the results gave me

I suppose we should be thankful he didn't do the same to the other 2 kids.

Regards
JAS

[A Mum]

It is scary JAS.

And sorry for the nature of this, I hope it doesn't upset anyone by me posting it.

I have a friend in New Zealand whose husband took his life and his two girls lives.
They were 4 and 6.
It was horrific.
She found them.

He had strangled them on a visitation and then hung himself in the shed.

It was found that he had made several attempts to take his own life before he succeeded and suffered badly in the meantime.
It also came out that the eldest girl had 'woken' up during this time that her father was strangling her, but he still continued to.
I cried for weeks, at the thought of this little girl opening her eyes and knowing her father was doing this to her.

He was always a bit of a 'mental' case, often did things to his wife, very dominating by nature, but always, always showed no harm or agression towards the girls.
Treated them like princesses and spoilt them wrotten.
He had done this to the girls because he wanted to get back at their mother who had ended the relationship a few months earlier.
He had all the visitation rights he wanted, but as I said, wanted to get at the mother.

Counselling needed indeed, although in this particular circumstance I'm not sure it would have been of any help.

[JAS]

Can't begin to imagine how awful that must have been for you and your friend Mum...I've known a fair few over the years who took there own lives but never others too.

I think something else that needs to happen is that we all have to get over the 'big boys don't cry' attitude towards both men and women. I wouldn't be at all surprised if these terrible incidents occurred more often in countries like ours where traditionally, and especially for men, we have been actively encouraged and told that we should keep our feelings supressed and bottle things up. IMHO that is much more likely to lead to an explosion of temper etc. I know as a kid crying was acceptable for me cos I'm a girlie but if my brother cried then he was very quickly told that men don't cry etc etc.

There's no shame in asking for help of any kind when it's needed...sooner society realises that and the system starts giving help the better as far as I'm concerned.
Never, ever be put off asking a friend if they need a shoulder to lean on.

Regards
JAS

[Thiele]

I guess we had a happy result at Glenelg today were a father snatched hiss one week year old fom his partner http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html. I'am sorry if its not the right thing to post in this thread

[JAS]

No need to be sorry Thiele...imho it's good to balance the tragic story that opened the thread with one that seems to have had a happy ending for the child.

Regards
JAS

[Punk Rooster]

I'll word this very carefully...

Nothing is more monsterous than killing children- especially your own flesh & blood.
I honestly don't know how someone gets in that state of mind to do it.

I have real concerns with the way society & the media portray (nay, whip up a frenzy) over this.
Mothers committing infanticide are portrayed as "helpless victims who need support through this difficult time".
I have read articles where they have suffocated/drowned/drugged etc, yet somehow we're led to believe that they really didn't do anything wrong- same goes for female sexual predators.
However, when men commit the above, they are portrayed as being awful & evil- which in most cases they are.

A heinous crime is a heinous crime, but what is this media fascination which portrays women good, men evil?
Surely evil is evil, regardless of sex?

[Punk Rooster]

Another case of a father going troppo after a custody hearing (his was yesterday apparently). Counselling should be mandatory during and after such cases. Such a sad result that could have possibly been avoided.

yeah, one wonders if all parties acted reasonably (rarely the case), there would be less (hopefully none) of these outcomes?