
If the born to rule's wern't so arrogant you'd almost feel sorry for them. I've said Labor will win again easily next year and this all but confirms it.
by Gozu » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:49 am
by mick » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:08 am
by redandblack » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:02 am
by The Big Shrek » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:42 am
by Brad » Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:25 pm
by Gozu » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:42 pm
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by GWW » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:07 pm
The Big Shrek wrote:
Kerin was a really nice bloke apparently, I used to see him drinking a fair bit in the pubs round North Adelaide.
by Wedgie » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:07 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by Punk Rooster » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:35 am
The Big Shrek wrote:I'd be happy if labour weren't officially the bunch of pricks they are now. Don't worry, Kevin Foley has plenty of that snobby liberal 'born to rule' attitude.
Kerin was a really nice bloke apparently, I used to see him drinking a fair bit in the pubs round North Adelaide.
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by The Big Shrek » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:47 pm
GWW wrote:The Big Shrek wrote:
Kerin was a really nice bloke apparently, I used to see him drinking a fair bit in the pubs round North Adelaide.
He's been at the Alma the last 2 times i've been there.
by Leaping Lindner » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:55 pm
Gozu wrote:I admit I'm not a huge fan of the Rann government and it is disappointing we don't have a viable opposition in this state. No one will vote for MHS and the incompotent basket case Libs and then federally the Libs are in opposition for what looks to be a good decade and perhaps even a generation but they can thank John Howard and his unwavering arrogance and extremism for destroying their own party.
by Hondo » Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:54 pm
by Psyber » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:20 pm
Yeah. It got Paul Keating in exactly the same way, creating the opening for John Howard.Leaping Lindner wrote:Karma's a bitch ain't it.Gozu wrote:I admit I'm not a huge fan of the Rann government and it is disappointing we don't have a viable opposition in this state. No one will vote for MHS and the incompotent basket case Libs and then federally the Libs are in opposition for what looks to be a good decade and perhaps even a generation but they can thank John Howard and his unwavering arrogance and extremism for destroying their own party.
by BenchedEagle » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:42 pm
GWW wrote:The Big Shrek wrote:
Kerin was a really nice bloke apparently, I used to see him drinking a fair bit in the pubs round North Adelaide.
He's been at the Alma the last 2 times i've been there.
by Strawb » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:13 am
by Psyber » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:31 am
I suspect endemic corruption is more the problem here in Victoria than mere incompetence...Strawb07 wrote:Wehave the same problem here in Victoria. Whilst Brumby fumbles his way around, Ted comes up and trashes the Labor party whilst he was Liberial Party President when we had Jeff.
by Leaping Lindner » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:06 am
Strawb07 wrote:We have the same problem here in Victoria. Whilst Brumby fumbles his way around, Ted comes up and trashes the Labor party whilst he was Liberial Party President when we had Jeff.
by Psyber » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:38 pm
There are those who think that was forced on them by cleaning up after the former Labor government's economic mess of course - just as it was forced on the SA Liberals after Bannon in the same era.Leaping Lindner wrote:And let's not forget that Ted Baillieu personally profited from the sale of state schools under the Kennett government. Whilst Jeff went around closing 350 public schools (Yes folks ! That's 350) the Real Estate agency that Baillieu was a partner in (Knight, Frank and Baillieu) was given a contract to sell 48 of those schools. And as you mention he was Liberal Party President at the time. A time also that the state's Public Transport was sold off to overseas interest, and health funding was cut to bone and in some cases (like outpatient services for mental health patients) abolished altogether. All the time pissing tax payers money up against the wall on a car race, and sinking it into Crown Casino (sorry....Entertainment ComplexStrawb07 wrote:We have the same problem here in Victoria. Whilst Brumby fumbles his way around, Ted comes up and trashes the Labor party whilst he was Liberial Party President when we had Jeff.).
It's seriously hard to believe him when he talks about improving health, education and transport in the state. His mob had their chance and they showed how much priority those issues had.
by Leaping Lindner » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:56 pm
Psyber wrote:There are those of us who think that was forced on them by the task of cleaning up the former Labor government's economic mess of course - just as it was forced on the SA Liberals after Bannon.Leaping Lindner wrote:And let's not forget that Ted Baillieu personally profited from the sale of state schools under the Kennett government. Whilst Jeff went around closing 350 public schools (Yes folks ! That's 350) the Real Estate agency that Baillieu was a partner in (Knight, Frank and Baillieu) was given a contract to sell 48 of those schools. And as you mention he was Liberal Party President at the time. A time also that the state's Public Transport was sold off to overseas interest, and health funding was cut to bone and in some cases (like outpatient services for mental health patients) abolished altogether. All the time pissing tax payers money up against the wall on a car race, and sinking it into Crown Casino (sorry....Entertainment ComplexStrawb07 wrote:We have the same problem here in Victoria. Whilst Brumby fumbles his way around, Ted comes up and trashes the Labor party whilst he was Liberial Party President when we had Jeff.).
It's seriously hard to believe him when he talks about improving health, education and transport in the state. His mob had their chance and they showed how much priority those issues had.
Nor do I think there is any evidence that Baillieu was involved beyond his name being on the company.
Those allegations of impropriety was looked into at the time, and I'm sure the Bracks Labor government would have trotted out any evidence they found after taking office if there had been any.
LL, I accept we'll never meet in the middle on this one - our respective religious dogma get in the way..
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