One Day International & 20/20 Squads

[the joker]

Can anyone else understand why, with all the bowlers getting Test opportunities at the moment, that Bracken doesn't even get a mention? He seems to be regarded by the selectors as only a one-day or 20/20 bowler. Surely if he's getting the best batsmen in the world out at the top of the order in a one-dayer, he can do so in a Test? There's too much pigeon-holing by the selectors. He absolutely HAS to go to England. We need blokes who can swing the ball over there, and there's probably no better swing bowler in the country for mine.

And he's got a hot missus, be nice to look at her in the crowd a bit more when he's playing!

?????
Have you ever seen Bracken Bowl with the Red Ball!!!!! he does not get picked in the test team because he cannot swing the red Kookaburra

Did they bowl with white balls in 04/05 Shield cricket???
"...including a first-innings 6 for 27 in their 2004-05 final win over Queensland and 7 for 4 earlier that season when South Australia fell for 29."
We've got all these blokes that would prefer to bowl with the wind at the moment, surely an into the wind guy like Bracken (currently the number 1 ranked ODI bowler in the world), would be more than useful.

your bringing up scores from years ago, since then he has been picked for australia and if you get picked you have to perform. i think he got 2 for 70 in that test

[RoosterMarty]

Can anyone else understand why, with all the bowlers getting Test opportunities at the moment, that Bracken doesn't even get a mention? He seems to be regarded by the selectors as only a one-day or 20/20 bowler. Surely if he's getting the best batsmen in the world out at the top of the order in a one-dayer, he can do so in a Test? There's too much pigeon-holing by the selectors. He absolutely HAS to go to England. We need blokes who can swing the ball over there, and there's probably no better swing bowler in the country for mine.

And he's got a hot missus, be nice to look at her in the crowd a bit more when he's playing!

?????
Have you ever seen Bracken Bowl with the Red Ball!!!!! he does not get picked in the test team because he cannot swing the red Kookaburra

Did they bowl with white balls in 04/05 Shield cricket???
"...including a first-innings 6 for 27 in their 2004-05 final win over Queensland and 7 for 4 earlier that season when South Australia fell for 29."
We've got all these blokes that would prefer to bowl with the wind at the moment, surely an into the wind guy like Bracken (currently the number 1 ranked ODI bowler in the world), would be more than useful.

Wow he took 7/4 against SA who only made 29 in total 4 years ago. Quick make him captain.

Surely you can see the difference between Test and One Day bowling?? There is a massive difference and Bracken isn't a Test bowler. Brilliant one day bowler but that is all.

[NFC]

Good to see Ryan Harris in the 20/20 australian team.... good luck to him. Also can not understand why they would drop hayden and leave marsh in the team.. Marsh hasn't scored a run in the local comp

Maybe because they've FINALLY got an eye on the future?

Pretty good squads, better than I thought they would look like.

[Browny25]

I thought they might of tried to get krejza a gig in one of the limited over sides. Hauritz seems to be very much in favour atm.

IMO Hauritz bowls 'flat crap'

Agreed!! Needs to toss it up more.. looks far more dangerous then

[LaughingKookaburra]

Tait bowls 4 overs in the last 6 weeks, 2 of them pooh and gets a guernsey, not that I'm complaining. It just displays the lack of depth we have around at the moment. 10 years ago he would've needed at least 4 good spells to get a look in.

10 Years ago we had one of the best bowling attacks the game has seen, we are not going to be blessed with that all the time..... McGrath, Gillespie, Fleming, Kaspa, Bichel the list goes on forever. Bit harsh on the current blokes. Mind you I still beleive he should not be in the squad.

[Pup]

Tait very very lucky to be in both squads.

Needs to prove his fitness at state level(4 overs does not do that) before being thrown straight back into the international side. Good to see Warner getting as gig in the 20/20.

[Gozu]

When you (Tait) destory everyone at a World Cup you're almost assured of a spot and given that Johnson might need a rest he was always a lock.

Here's the numbers:

ODI's 18 matches, 33wk @ 23.5
T20I's 1 match, 2wk @ 11

OD career 71 matches, 134wk @ 21.6
T20 career 9 matches, 19wk @ 11.4

This season

Ford Ranger Cup 6 matches, 12wk @ 21.6
KFC Twenty/20 Big Bash 1 match, 3wk @ 10

[Well run]

Good to see Ryan Harris in the 20/20 australian team.... good luck to him. Also can not understand why they would drop hayden and leave marsh in the team.. Marsh hasn't scored a run in the local comp

Maybe because they've FINALLY got an eye on the future?

Pretty good squads, better than I thought they would look like.

Eye to the future maybe but surely pick blokes in form.... they all have talent otherwise they wouldn't be playing state cricket....

[Lightning McQueen]

Tait bowls 4 overs in the last 6 weeks, 2 of them pooh and gets a guernsey, not that I'm complaining. It just displays the lack of depth we have around at the moment. 10 years ago he would've needed at least 4 good spells to get a look in.

10 Years ago we had one of the best bowling attacks the game has seen, we are not going to be blessed with that all the time..... McGrath, Gillespie, Fleming, Kaspa, Bichel the list goes on forever. Bit harsh on the current blokes. Mind you I still beleive he should not be in the squad.

That's exactly what I was saying mate, we had depth. Dizzy wasn't always a gun, none of them were really, they were developed into good bowlers. I was in state junior squads with and played against Dizzy, he wasn't very quick and didn't take bags of wickets, the right people got him at an early age and away he went.

I don't know why our 2nd tier has dropped off so much, possibly we were too comfortable with the same players for so long. 10 years ago every kid in the country wanted to bowl leg-spin, where are they all now, why didn't we do something about it and have a ready made young fella for when Warney retired.

[NFC]

Good to see Ryan Harris in the 20/20 australian team.... good luck to him. Also can not understand why they would drop hayden and leave marsh in the team.. Marsh hasn't scored a run in the local comp

Maybe because they've FINALLY got an eye on the future?

Pretty good squads, better than I thought they would look like.

Eye to the future maybe but surely pick blokes in form.... they all have talent otherwise they wouldn't be playing state cricket....

Look at Marsh's record for Aus, very good. Who else was going to open?

Hayden past it.
Katich not an ODI player
Watto injured

Had to be Marsh/Hopes= Harsh

[LaughingKookaburra]

Gillespie was a very good bowler, that collision with S.Waugh put him back big time. He was at the time just about the quickest bowler in the world and tore England a new a**hole in 1 late 90's Ashes tour. Around 2000/2001 he was probably with McGrath the best pace bowler in the world. Towards the end he lost pace and was easier to get away, the 2003 world cup he was sensational and I have never seen anyone fool Sachin Tendulkar like he did with a slower ball to remove him in the pool stages. Class bowler.

[Bulldogga55]

Maybe its just me but has Cameron White had his chance? Promised big things after warney retired but hasn't delivered as of since. Yes, he can be handy low order batsmen but his bowling is absoulutly woeful at the moment. I just think his had his fair go, surley theres another young allrounder out there that could do a better job than he can? Perhaps Mosies Henriques from NSW or Theo Doropolus from WA could get a shot.

[Lightning McQueen]

Gillespie was a very good bowler, that collision with S.Waugh put him back big time. He was at the time just about the quickest bowler in the world and tore England a new a**hole in 1 late 90's Ashes tour. Around 2000/2001 he was probably with McGrath the best pace bowler in the world. Towards the end he lost pace and was easier to get away, the 2003 world cup he was sensational and I have never seen anyone fool Sachin Tendulkar like he did with a slower ball to remove him in the pool stages. Class bowler.

Totally agree, he deserves any accolades he gets along the way, he worked harder than anyone. He was playing C grade district around 18/19, the next few years he catipulted into the Aussie team and became a legend, a double hundred in his last test to go with it.

[Lightning McQueen]

Maybe its just me but has Cameron White had his chance? Promised big things after warney retired but hasn't delivered as of since. Yes, he can be handy low order batsmen but his bowling is absoulutly woeful at the moment. I just think his had his fair go, surley theres another young allrounder out there that could do a better job than he can? Perhaps Mosies Henriques from NSW or Theo Doropolus from WA could get a shot.

He's definetely been given enough chances, he'll get more though. As for the other two, why not, surely it would be more beneficial than chucking in a 30+ year old like we always do.

[CoverKing]

Maybe its just me but has Cameron White had his chance? Promised big things after warney retired but hasn't delivered as of since. Yes, he can be handy low order batsmen but his bowling is absoulutly woeful at the moment. I just think his had his fair go, surley theres another young allrounder out there that could do a better job than he can? Perhaps Mosies Henriques from NSW or Theo Doropolus from WA could get a shot.

He's definetely been given enough chances, he'll get more though. As for the other two, why not, surely it would be more beneficial than chucking in a 30+ year old like we always do.

i disagree here, i think white has not been givin a go as a batsman (his best thing) (but rightly so, clarke ponting hussey symonds in the middle order) but now since there is no watto or symonds i would like too see white bat at 6 and allow australia to see how good this bloke is as a batsman! his bowling is rather poor, altho i think he bowled alrite in India! definitely given enough chance as a bowler at ODI level, but not as a ODI batsman

[CoverKing]

Can anyone else understand why, with all the bowlers getting Test opportunities at the moment, that Bracken doesn't even get a mention? He seems to be regarded by the selectors as only a one-day or 20/20 bowler. Surely if he's getting the best batsmen in the world out at the top of the order in a one-dayer, he can do so in a Test? There's too much pigeon-holing by the selectors. He absolutely HAS to go to England. We need blokes who can swing the ball over there, and there's probably no better swing bowler in the country for mine.

And he's got a hot missus, be nice to look at her in the crowd a bit more when he's playing!

?????
Have you ever seen Bracken Bowl with the Red Ball!!!!! he does not get picked in the test team because he cannot swing the red Kookaburra

Did they bowl with white balls in 04/05 Shield cricket???
"...including a first-innings 6 for 27 in their 2004-05 final win over Queensland and 7 for 4 earlier that season when South Australia fell for 29."
We've got all these blokes that would prefer to bowl with the wind at the moment, surely an into the wind guy like Bracken (currently the number 1 ranked ODI bowler in the world), would be more than useful.

your bringing up scores from years ago, since then he has been picked for australia and if you get picked you have to perform. i think he got 2 for 70 in that test

bracken also in his second too last test took 4/60 or so including the wickets of lara, chanderpaul and sarwan...thats not good enough? he deserves a better chance, especially if blokes like bollinger are getting a gig! we need a workhorse and experience, bring in bracken to the test side

[jointman]

hughes from nsw....has the runs on the board wondering why he wasnt picked

[Hondo]

hughes from nsw....has the runs on the board wondering why he wasnt picked

They must feel he is best suited to the 5 day game which is consistent with what some of the commentators have been saying. That's where his excellent stats are so far. They aren't quite so great in ODI's.

I thought they might have thrown him into the ODIs (not 20-20) in case they were considering an elevation to test cricket this season. So it might be that they are wanting to leave his debut for next season at the earliest, so he gets some more experience? He's only played 16 first class games, ever!

[whufc]

I wrote this on the 3rd test thread last night as my 20-20 side before the selectors announced the squad thats a pretty good effort i think. Not that thinking the same as the selectors is something that should be bragged about at the moment.

1. Dave Warner
2. Brad Haddin
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Dave Hussey
5. Michael Clarke
6. Cameron White
7. Theo Doropolous
8. Mitchell Johnson
9. Ryan Harris
10. Peter Siddle
11. Ben Hilfenhaus

[jointman]

hughes from nsw....has the runs on the board wondering why he wasnt picked

They must feel he is best suited to the 5 day game which is consistent with what some of the commentators have been saying. That's where his excellent stats are so far. They aren't quite so great in ODI's.

I thought they might have thrown him into the ODIs (not 20-20) in case they were considering an elevation to test cricket this season. So it might be that they are wanting to leave his debut for next season at the earliest, so he gets some more experience? He's only played 16 first class games, ever!

i know...his made a ton of runs cant do much more than that