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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby topsywaldron » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:00 pm

UK Fan wrote:That is your airtight evidence for proof a club is breaking the salasry cap. That is Absolutely Laughable. That is called heresay not evidence


Unlike Grahml I don't deal in absolutes, I'm merely saying that some posters here would have a fair idea of whether someone is on $80000 or base match payments. Not to bring Callinan or Pfitzner into it mind you.

UK Fan wrote:. BigPhil's recruiting rumours have more credibility.


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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby redandblack » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:41 pm

dash61 wrote:
redandblack wrote:You're right, that's just your opinion. Perhaps a few facts would strengthen it.

Do you really think Charles Slattery, or any player, would really say that money was the main reason for changing clubs? Of course they don't, his greatly increased payment was just a bonus :roll:

It might be a good idea not to rely on statements made by disgruntled players from any club.

The debate would be better concentrating on the principle, not individual cases.


Im with the Dogs guys here, actually chatted to Slatts and his move was more the chance of success than $$$$, sorry red


Well, I value loyalty over someone leaving their club to have more chance of success at the premiership club. That says plenty about the player to me, but that's also just my opinion. I also repeat that no player in that situation is ever going to say it's about the money.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby silicone skyline » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:07 pm

Agreed r&b.

Why would you say that money was the reason?

You would sound like a tosser.

How can anyone say it's about the money?
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby nickname » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:50 pm

And if it was just about playing for a more successful club why didn't Slattery just ask for a clearance instead of first demanding a massive increase in his payments at West?
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby silicone skyline » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:54 pm

nickname wrote:And if it was just about playing for a more successful club why didn't Slattery just ask for a clearance instead of first demanding a massive increase in his payments at West?


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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby Big Phil » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:35 pm

UK Fan wrote:. BigPhil's recruiting rumours have more credibility.


topsywaldron wrote:See you in court.


Yes, thankyou Topsy ;)

I don't see why UK Fan has to fight his silly battles using the credibility of my recruiting rumours in his pathetic argument :roll:
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby doggies4eva » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:22 pm

I dunno about you but if I was a young bloke thinking about a long term footy career I would probably want more money to play for an unsuccessful club than the doggies - more risk.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby Voice » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:02 am

doggies4eva wrote:I dunno about you but if I was a young bloke thinking about a long term footy career I would probably want more money to play for an unsuccessful club than the doggies - more risk.

More risk of what?
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby doggies4eva » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:48 pm

Voice wrote:
doggies4eva wrote:I dunno about you but if I was a young bloke thinking about a long term footy career I would probably want more money to play for an unsuccessful club than the doggies - more risk.

More risk of what?


More risk of having my future income impaired by playing with a team that is not playing well and doesn't give me a chance of playing finals and other pressure games.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby nickname » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:04 am

Why would your future income be greater playing in a team that is successful? You'd be competing for a dollar against more high quality, well-paid players, and the salary cap's the same at each club. Isn't it?
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby whufc » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:47 am

redandblack wrote:
dash61 wrote:
redandblack wrote:You're right, that's just your opinion. Perhaps a few facts would strengthen it.

Do you really think Charles Slattery, or any player, would really say that money was the main reason for changing clubs? Of course they don't, his greatly increased payment was just a bonus :roll:

It might be a good idea not to rely on statements made by disgruntled players from any club.

The debate would be better concentrating on the principle, not individual cases.


Im with the Dogs guys here, actually chatted to Slatts and his move was more the chance of success than $$$$, sorry red


Well, I value loyalty over someone leaving their club to have more chance of success at the premiership club. That says plenty about the player to me, but that's also just my opinion. I also repeat that no player in that situation is ever going to say it's about the money.


I can't believe you would bag a bloke that tried to get the best out of his football. The bloke left West because he was sick of playing in front of 1000 people crowds with a bunch of blokes who would struggle to play A grade in the ammos.

He went to a club with a billion times better training facilities, bigger crowds and the realistic chance to win a premiership, which he did on the biggest stage in SANFL football in 2007. I would take a pay cut to have those kind of chances.

And like someone else said the guy is a lawyer, it's not like his struggling outside of football to earn a buck.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby am Bays » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:40 am

whufc wrote:
redandblack wrote:I can't believe you would bag a bloke that tried to get the best out of his football. The bloke left West because he was sick of playing in front of 1000 people crowds with a bunch of blokes who would struggle to play A grade in the ammos.

He went to a club with a billion times better training facilities, bigger crowds and the realistic chance to win a premiership, which he did on the biggest stage in SANFL football in 2007. I would take a pay cut to have those kind of chances.

And like someone else said the guy is a lawyer, it's not like his struggling outside of football to earn a buck.


100% agree believe it or not ask the majority of players why they play it is to compete, to win, to win premierships!!!

Gee Slattery is not the first player to leave a club to play in a premiership contending side. For some such as Troy Clements, Charles Slattery, Phil McGuinness, the Stringers etc it works. For others like John Schneebichler and Clayton Lamb it doesn't. Whilst we fans of our clubs get frustrated when players leave to chase potential success who are we to question a player chasing his dream.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby UK Fan » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:01 am

Big Phil wrote:
UK Fan wrote:. BigPhil's recruiting rumours have more credibility.


topsywaldron wrote:See you in court.


BBWWAAAHHH!!!!!! Yes that was slanderous.

whufc wrote:
redandblack wrote:
dash61 wrote:
redandblack wrote:You're right, that's just your opinion. Perhaps a few facts would strengthen it.

Do you really think Charles Slattery, or any player, would really say that money was the main reason for changing clubs? Of course they don't, his greatly increased payment was just a bonus :roll:

It might be a good idea not to rely on statements made by disgruntled players from any club.

The debate would be better concentrating on the principle, not individual cases.


Im with the Dogs guys here, actually chatted to Slatts and his move was more the chance of success than $$$$, sorry red


Well, I value loyalty over someone leaving their club to have more chance of success at the premiership club. That says plenty about the player to me, but that's also just my opinion. I also repeat that no player in that situation is ever going to say it's about the money.


I can't believe you would bag a bloke that tried to get the best out of his football. The bloke left West because he was sick of playing in front of 1000 people crowds with a bunch of blokes who would struggle to play A grade in the ammos.

He went to a club with a billion times better training facilities, bigger crowds and the realistic chance to win a premiership, which he did on the biggest stage in SANFL football in 2007. I would take a pay cut to have those kind of chances.

And like someone else said the guy is a lawyer, it's not like his struggling outside of football to earn a buck.


Never let the truth get in the way of a good story whufc.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:08 am

Yes, but if it weren't for the salary cap there would be massive crowds and better facilities....
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby redandblack » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:08 pm

I haven't bagged Charles at all. I've only stated that I'm disappointed he left a struggling club that had brought him up through the juniors to go to the top team for a lot more money, after asking for a pay rise at West. As nickname says, asking for the pay rise at West destroys the argument about moving to better his football and that's the issue I was addressing.

As for never letting the truth get in the way of a good story, thank you, as in this case the truth is that Charles asked for a pay rise at West and after that, decided to move to Central for a payment well above what West could offer. Hardly moving to 'better his football'.

Good luck to him for moving, but I'm entitled to my opinion; an opinion backed up by the facts.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby nickname » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:19 pm

If every player had the attitude that's been attributed to Charles Slattery then everyone would be playing for Centrals. To me, there's a dignity in sticking with a club in tough times and doing your best to help it improve.
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby UK Fan » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:27 pm

redandblack wrote:I haven't bagged Charles at all. I've only stated that I'm disappointed he left a struggling club that had brought him up through the juniors to go to the top team for a lot more money, after asking for a pay rise at West. As nickname says, asking for the pay rise at West destroys the argument about moving to better his football and that's the issue I was addressing.

As for never letting the truth get in the way of a good story, thank you, as in this case the truth is that Charles asked for a pay rise at West and after that, decided to move to Central for a payment well above what West could offer. Hardly moving to 'better his football'.

Good luck to him for moving, but I'm entitled to my opinion; an opinion backed up by the facts.


Maybe you nickname and Dash can argue on the Westies website R&B As to why Charles left. Remember Dash the West fan confirming he didnt leave due to $$$ just more success. I was really surprised you completely disregarded his opinion on this matter and just charged ahead.

Still Dash you have proven one point.

I dont think you have any idea/evidence as to what opposition players get paid at all. This is 100% just another of many lame excuses as to why West Adelaide are so poor atm. IMHO!!!!
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby redandblack » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:40 pm

So you accept the opinion of one West fan who agrees with you, as fact, but ignore the opinion of more West fans who state the opposite?

Hard to argue constructively with that. :roll:
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby topsywaldron » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:59 pm

redandblack wrote:Hard to argue constructively with that. :roll:


Has anyone ever been able to argue constructively with Golden Dynasty?
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Re: CDFC Recruits

Postby dash61 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:02 pm

redandblack wrote:I haven't bagged Charles at all. I've only stated that I'm disappointed he left a struggling club that had brought him up through the juniors to go to the top team for a lot more money, after asking for a pay rise at West. As nickname says, asking for the pay rise at West destroys the argument about moving to better his football and that's the issue I was addressing.

As for never letting the truth get in the way of a good story, thank you, as in this case the truth is that Charles asked for a pay rise at West and after that, decided to move to Central for a payment well above what West could offer. Hardly moving to 'better his football'.

Good luck to him for moving, but I'm entitled to my opinion; an opinion backed up by the facts.


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Charles Slattery asking for pay rise mmmm, he deserved it, he was one of our more consistent players at the time and deserved to go up the scale, the fact is we recruited some real duds from Victoria that would have got paid heaps more than Slatts was getting, the truth is also that his father was having his two bobs worth as well.

But to accuse Centrals on this one is totally unfair as he could have been treated better by us and he proved in a better side how valuable a player he really was until injuries have dented his career a little
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