The 1962 Night Series

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The format was this:

all 8 League teams participated, as well as probationary teams Central District and Woodville between the 27th of March and 11th of April

Resulted as this:
Sturt d. Central
North d. South
Port d. Torrens
Glenelg d. Woodville
West d. Norwood

Semi Finals:
Port d. Sturt
West d. Glenelg

Final:
West d. Port

My question is, there were 5 first round winners, but only 4 progressed. Why did North not go through to the next round?
It couldn't be because they had the lowest winning score - Port did. Or the smallest winning margin - West did.

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Cos they only bt South?

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Cos they only bt South?

If that was the rule, I don't think North would have bothered to play.

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My question is, there were 5 first round winners, but only 4 progressed. Why did North not go through to the next round?
It couldn't be because they had the lowest winning score - Port did. Or the smallest winning margin - West did.

Salary cap issues.....????

[GWW]

This is slightly off topic spelly, but what year was it that a side was picked to play a visiting Irish team in the 1960's (the forerunner to the current Aus/Ireland series). I think it was in the 1960's and the game was played at Norwood Oval. I read somewhere that Ryan Fitzgerald's dad (i think his name was Mick) was the first player to score against an Irish team.

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I haven't heard about that match, I only know about the 1967 tour that Australia undertook as far as international games in the 60s.

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I haven't heard about that match, I only know about the 1967 tour that Australia undertook as far as international games in the 60s.

Yeah, that sounds like the year they played a game at Norwood Oval.

[Adelaide Hawk]

This is slightly off topic spelly, but what year was it that a side was picked to play a visiting Irish team in the 1960's (the forerunner to the current Aus/Ireland series). I think it was in the 1960's and the game was played at Norwood Oval. I read somewhere that Ryan Fitzgerald's dad (i think his name was Mick) was the first player to score against an Irish team.

I think that game was possibly 1969 to pre-season 1970. I recall Barrie Robran playing and I'm certain he'd already won a Magarey Medal. He was doing all the tapping the ball onto the foot, etc, like he'd been playing Gaelic Football since birth. I am thinking it may have been early 1970 as I recall being at cricket practice at Norwood Oval that evening and the goals were hindering my run up, then I stuck around to watch the game.

Can't recall if the opposition was a visiting team, or a state team of resident gaelic footballers, but they played the full gaelic version of the game, not this crap they play these days.

[nickname]

The format was this:

all 8 League teams participated, as well as probationary teams Central District and Woodville between the 27th of March and 11th of April

Resulted as this:
Sturt d. Central
North d. South
Port d. Torrens
Glenelg d. Woodville
West d. Norwood

Semi Finals:
Port d. Sturt
West d. Glenelg

Final:
West d. Port

My question is, there were 5 first round winners, but only 4 progressed. Why did North not go through to the next round?
It couldn't be because they had the lowest winning score - Port did. Or the smallest winning margin - West did.

Could it just have been worked out on percentage? i.e. they formed a ladder like a normal round of footy and the top 4 go through.

[nickname]

This is slightly off topic spelly, but what year was it that a side was picked to play a visiting Irish team in the 1960's (the forerunner to the current Aus/Ireland series). I think it was in the 1960's and the game was played at Norwood Oval. I read somewhere that Ryan Fitzgerald's dad (i think his name was Mick) was the first player to score against an Irish team.

I think that game was possibly 1969 to pre-season 1970. I recall Barrie Robran playing and I'm certain he'd already won a Magarey Medal. He was doing all the tapping the ball onto the foot, etc, like he'd been playing Gaelic Football since birth. I am thinking it may have been early 1970 as I recall being at cricket practice at Norwood Oval that evening and the goals were hindering my run up, then I stuck around to watch the game.

Can't recall if the opposition was a visiting team, or a state team of resident gaelic footballers, but they played the full gaelic version of the game, not this crap they play these days.

I was there and it was certainly a visiting team - our family knew one of the touring party - but I can't recall if it was an All-Ireland side or a champion County side, like Kerry. Can remember John Burkett from Westies was very good at running and kicking the ball to himself.

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The format was this:

all 8 League teams participated, as well as probationary teams Central District and Woodville between the 27th of March and 11th of April

Resulted as this:
Sturt d. Central
North d. South
Port d. Torrens
Glenelg d. Woodville
West d. Norwood

Semi Finals:
Port d. Sturt
West d. Glenelg

Final:
West d. Port

My question is, there were 5 first round winners, but only 4 progressed. Why did North not go through to the next round?
It couldn't be because they had the lowest winning score - Port did. Or the smallest winning margin - West did.

Could it just have been worked out on percentage? i.e. they formed a ladder like a normal round of footy and the top 4 go through.

No, because West would have missed out.

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This is slightly off topic spelly, but what year was it that a side was picked to play a visiting Irish team in the 1960's (the forerunner to the current Aus/Ireland series). I think it was in the 1960's and the game was played at Norwood Oval. I read somewhere that Ryan Fitzgerald's dad (i think his name was Mick) was the first player to score against an Irish team.

I think that game was possibly 1969 to pre-season 1970. I recall Barrie Robran playing and I'm certain he'd already won a Magarey Medal. He was doing all the tapping the ball onto the foot, etc, like he'd been playing Gaelic Football since birth. I am thinking it may have been early 1970 as I recall being at cricket practice at Norwood Oval that evening and the goals were hindering my run up, then I stuck around to watch the game.

Can't recall if the opposition was a visiting team, or a state team of resident gaelic footballers, but they played the full gaelic version of the game, not this crap they play these days.

I was there and it was certainly a visiting team - our family knew one of the touring party - but I can't recall if it was an All-Ireland side or a champion County side, like Kerry. Can remember John Burkett from Westies was very good at running and kicking the ball to himself.

In 1968 Irish Gaelic side Meath toured Australia and played South Australia at Nwd Oval. A crowd of 10,000 saw Meath win 23-12. SA's lone goal was kicked by Mick Fitzgerald, father of Ryan. The game is mentioned in more detail on pages 193-194 in Pound for Pound (Ken Eustice) - one of the best SANFL footy books you can buy.

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The format was this:

all 8 League teams participated, as well as probationary teams Central District and Woodville between the 27th of March and 11th of April

Resulted as this:
Sturt d. Central
North d. South
Port d. Torrens
Glenelg d. Woodville
West d. Norwood

Semi Finals:
Port d. Sturt
West d. Glenelg

Final:
West d. Port

My question is, there were 5 first round winners, but only 4 progressed. Why did North not go through to the next round?
It couldn't be because they had the lowest winning score - Port did. Or the smallest winning margin - West did.

Could it just have been worked out on percentage? i.e. they formed a ladder like a normal round of footy and the top 4 go through.

No, because West would have missed out.

Hmmm, that was my first guess too, percentage.
If that isn't the reason then just thinking outside the box...North won a premiership around that time... were North reigning premiers? If so, this series looks as though it was played in the pre-season, could North's status as reigning premier have been some hinderence? Perhaps they were playing a challenge match against the WAFL premier or something?

[Leaping Lindner]

I was having a look through the 1963 SANFL year book (which covers the 1962 season) last night, and this series isn't mentioned in it anywhere. Makes you wonder how important it was to the clubs or perceived to be.

[Leaping Lindner]

The format was this:

all 8 League teams participated, as well as probationary teams Central District and Woodville between the 27th of March and 11th of April

Resulted as this:
Sturt d. Central
North d. South
Port d. Torrens
Glenelg d. Woodville
West d. Norwood

Semi Finals:
Port d. Sturt
West d. Glenelg

Final:
West d. Port

My question is, there were 5 first round winners, but only 4 progressed. Why did North not go through to the next round?
It couldn't be because they had the lowest winning score - Port did. Or the smallest winning margin - West did.

Could it just have been worked out on percentage? i.e. they formed a ladder like a normal round of footy and the top 4 go through.

No, because West would have missed out.

Hmmm, that was my first guess too, percentage.
If that isn't the reason then just thinking outside the box...North won a premiership around that time... were North reigning premiers? If so, this series looks as though it was played in the pre-season, could North's status as reigning premier have been some hinderence? Perhaps they were playing a challenge match against the WAFL premier or something?

North won in 1960. West were reigning premiers in 1961.

[Panto]

The top 4 sides of the previous season played each other in the first round, the 2 winners going through to the Semi-Finals.
The other 6 teams (including Central and Woodville) played off, and the 2 winners with the best
percentage completed the Semi-Finalists.

As for the Gaelic match played on Norwood Oval in the 60's, it was between Meath (All-Ireland Champions) and S.Aust.
It was played in March 68, Kerley was captain, and did in fact include Fitzgerald (Glenelg).Others named included Phillis, Eustice, Burkett, Backman, Robran and Vidovich.
An Aussie side (Galahs) had toured Ireland the previous year.

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Thanks for that info, Panto, now it makes sense. By the scores of the matches, North were disadvantaged by playing one of the other 7 established clubs:

27/3 Sturt 12.16 Central 4.7
North 8.15 South 4.9 - Norwood (D/H) 2000
28/3 Glenelg 13.23 Woodville 2.3
Port 5.14 Torrens 6.5 Thebarton (D/H)
29/3 West 8.11 Norwood 8.10 Norwood

3/4 Port 19.17 Sturt 6.7 Norwood
5/4 West 21.11 Glenelg 3.12 Norwood

11/4 West 10.6 Port 8.9 Norwood 8600

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Wesities got through because in those days anyone who beat Norwood at Norwood got 3 points.