Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:44 pm

boozers wrote:Here's a goodie....lol
Chris Farrant anyone remember him,apparently he runs a dog washing business now!


Thrasher..ofcourse. We preferred to call him Thrush and didn't he love it.

I excluded him as with blokes like Pitt etc as they are longer than a couple of years ago.

Peek I would include...as I said I can't remember everyone
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:55 pm

bazza1 wrote:
Amateur Footy wrote:I would say the standard had been slowly falling for about 20 years up until a year or so ago. Section 2 would now be stronger than I have ever seen and section 1 is back on the rise. The depth across all clubs may not yet be what it used to be but clubs at the top have probably got more depth in Sect 1 and 2 than for many years - we certainly have. I think the big difference is we are missing a few top players from a year or two ago. Look at the list of who has (come and) gone in last couple of years:

Sorry AF I have to disagree with you there mate, I played over 10 years of section 2 cricket and in the late 90's early 2000's that section was stronger than section 1 is now, you had to win 9 games to make the finals because there were 8-9 teams capable of playing finals. Section 2 now since we went up, south rd went up and Sheidow pk this year I think with out those A grade sides playing in it the standard wont be the same.


Mate, you will disagree with me no matter what i say....I'll stick by it. Different teams back then Bazza. South Rd were in sect 1 (you would have hardly played a game against them in sect 2) and sheidow were down lower, so you weren't playing them anyway. There would now be more A grade teams in sect 2 than back then. Our B grade is the best side we've pulled together in the 2s for a while and it's struggling. I would agree lower grades have certainly dropped off significantly with overall depth...bit of a worry really.

We ran a front page story in Hills and Valley messenger and only got one phone call....less people wanting to play cricket than ever I reckon.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby CoverKing » Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:10 pm

bazza1 wrote:Sheesh, committee meetings would be interesting down at WYC, I would suggest the Prez would be getting his way most of the time, would this be right Cover king, Booney ;)


no chance bazza :D didn even realise he was prez!!
iv only been playing sec 1 for a couple of years, but i think that the competition has dropped off a fair bit in depth...i remember watchin the A grade play under Knowlesy and the comp seemed a lot more even and stronger across the board. In sayin this, i think there are still the gun players in each side, i think it is just changing of the times and their will be the new guns starting to shine very soon!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Tight_Lines » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:14 pm

Is this a case of the older i get the better I was? I cant comment on section 1 but ive always found looking back at school cricket and footy now I just think to myself I would dominate this if i was playing when i was that age (NO IM NOT THAT KIND OF BLOKE)

But I think that the more expeirenced and better players get the easier obviously it gets and when these names that use to dominate move on alot of blokes on here and that werent dominate step up and take their place and do to alot of players what the previous players did to them. Just my opinion always thought of it like that.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby VC » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:13 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:
boozers wrote:Here's a goodie....lol
Chris Farrant anyone remember him,apparently he runs a dog washing business now!


Thrasher..ofcourse. We preferred to call him Thrush and didn't he love it.

I excluded him as with blokes like Pitt etc as they are longer than a couple of years ago.

Peek I would include...as I said I can't remember everyone


peeky is dominating in the great southern comp these days... scored 130 odd last week, don't think he's scored under 50 all yr.

every1 hated thrasher, i had a few beers with him a couple of times. and he actually wasn't a bad bloke!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Roseboy » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:35 pm

Amateur Footy wrote:We ran a front page story in Hills and Valley messenger and only got one phone call....less people wanting to play cricket than ever I reckon.

This is something I've talked about a lot with people over the past few years, especially with older guys at our club.

People in general these days, have less time to commit to something that is as time-intensive as cricket. Take section 1 for example, we get to the ground at 12pm, play from 1pm to 6:30pm or 7 depending on over rate, then back to the club for a drink or two, you're lucky to be home by 8. That's a lot of hours for time-poor people which many of us are.

Then there's practice (1 or 2 sessions) and so-on.

More and more people are asked (or asking) to work on Saturdays these days as well, especially retail + tradies. It wasn't common 10 years ago for people to work Saturday afternoons. It certainly is now.

Its also not a sport many of the wives/partners/girlfriends get into (unlike footy), so I have no doubt there's often a lot of pressure put on by them to maybe not play.

So, what are you left with? A lot of older guys who play because they can - you can play competitively up until your in your late 50s in the lower grades. You have your young guys who are at school/uni and of course you're always going to have the guys who just love the game.

You don't have nearly as many mid-late 20s guys there used to be. Whether its due to one of the reasons mentioned, or the fact they just want to laze at the beach - who knows.

I hope I'm wrong, but I wonder if 60 or 75 over a side cricket is a dying sport...
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:52 pm

Roseboy wrote:
Amateur Footy wrote:We ran a front page story in Hills and Valley messenger and only got one phone call....less people wanting to play cricket than ever I reckon.

This is something I've talked about a lot with people over the past few years, especially with older guys at our club.

People in general these days, have less time to commit to something that is as time-intensive as cricket. Take section 1 for example, we get to the ground at 12pm, play from 1pm to 6:30pm or 7 depending on over rate, then back to the club for a drink or two, you're lucky to be home by 8. That's a lot of hours for time-poor people which many of us are.

Then there's practice (1 or 2 sessions) and so-on.

More and more people are asked (or asking) to work on Saturdays these days as well, especially retail + tradies. It wasn't common 10 years ago for people to work Saturday afternoons. It certainly is now.

Its also not a sport many of the wives/partners/girlfriends get into (unlike footy), so I have no doubt there's often a lot of pressure put on by them to maybe not play.

So, what are you left with? A lot of older guys who play because they can - you can play competitively up until your in your late 50s in the lower grades. You have your young guys who are at school/uni and of course you're always going to have the guys who just love the game.

You don't have nearly as many mid-late 20s guys there used to be. Whether its due to one of the reasons mentioned, or the fact they just want to laze at the beach - who knows.

I hope I'm wrong, but I wonder if 60 or 75 over a side cricket is a dying sport...


That is a very important part that the association must look into sooner rather than later because as you say RB people are becoming very time poor. 75 and 60 over cricket still has its place for us diehard cricketers but the ones which are playing on a more social basis then it is becoming much more relevant to have a section/comp where it is strictly one dayers. The association has implemented the 12th man and 13th in sections 4 below(great idea that one ;) ) which does enable more flexibility with players who are unavailable consistently.

Cricket is a sport which is very time consuming, which some say is a strength as it = more time away from home, but it is hard on families and those with gf's or wives(CK and JB are safe there ;) ) to spend so much time apart on what is commonly the only day they have together now.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:55 pm

bazza1 wrote:Sheesh, committee meetings would be interesting down at WYC, I would suggest the Prez would be getting his way most of the time, would this be right Cover king, Booney ;)


I can answer that one for you Bazza yes the prez does get his way whenever he wants to ;) .
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Roseboy » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:17 pm

wycbloods wrote:75 and 60 over cricket still has its place for us diehard cricketers but the ones which are playing on a more social basis then it is becoming much more relevant to have a section/comp where it is strictly one dayers. The association has implemented the 12th man and 13th in sections 4 below(great idea that one ;) ) which does enable more flexibility with players who are unavailable consistently.

Totally agree with that, the Association have got it right with that decision.

I believe in the turf comp, the lower divisions play 1-day games only (40 overs each). That's still a very lengthy day, but with the benefit in you're likely to *do* something each week (ie bowl and/or bat). Its also easier to find guys keen to fill-in for 1 week knowing they might have a bat and a bowl.

What's people's opinion on looking at sections 5 & 6 becoming a 1-day only sections?
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:27 pm

Roseboy wrote:
wycbloods wrote:75 and 60 over cricket still has its place for us diehard cricketers but the ones which are playing on a more social basis then it is becoming much more relevant to have a section/comp where it is strictly one dayers. The association has implemented the 12th man and 13th in sections 4 below(great idea that one ;) ) which does enable more flexibility with players who are unavailable consistently.

Totally agree with that, the Association have got it right with that decision.

I believe in the turf comp, the lower divisions play 1-day games only (40 overs each). That's still a very lengthy day, but with the benefit in you're likely to *do* something each week (ie bowl and/or bat). Its also easier to find guys keen to fill-in for 1 week knowing they might have a bat and a bowl.

What's people's opinion on looking at sections 5 & 6 becoming a 1-day only sections?


I don't think we should get rid of two sections for it maybe go to a 5 section comp and have a one day comp.

Turf have all the 2 day grades and then have i think 4 one day comps so it would be interesting to see the difference between the A grade 2 day side and the A grade 1 day side at clubs.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Amateur Footy » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:37 pm

One dayers in sect 4 and below would be a good start I reckon. Encourage the young blokes to go up to higher grades for two-day cricket. I am positive we would fill our 4 tems every week without too much trouble. But how would you count matches played? 1/2 a game for each one-dayer? Blokes in top grades would only play half as many games....
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:12 am

Amateur Footy wrote:One dayers in sect 4 and below would be a good start I reckon. Encourage the young blokes to go up to higher grades for two-day cricket. I am positive we would fill our 4 tems every week without too much trouble. But how would you count matches played? 1/2 a game for each one-dayer? Blokes in top grades would only play half as many games....


A game is a game it would mean that some people would be able reach 200etc quicker than others.
I don't think we would need to start off with 3 one day sections i think 1 would be a good way to start.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby bazza1 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:50 am

Mate, you will disagree with me no matter what i say....I'll stick by it. Different teams back then Bazza. South Rd were in sect 1 (you would have hardly played a game against them in sect 2) and sheidow were down lower, so you weren't playing them anyway. There would now be more A grade teams in sect 2 than back then. Our B grade is the best side we've pulled together in the 2s for a while and it's struggling. I would agree lower grades have certainly dropped off significantly with overall depth...bit of a worry really.

AF, we played regulary against Sheidow Park, Mitchell park, kenilworth,westminster,South Park, ICC, Glenelg, Panorama, they were all A grade sides, I respect your opinion AF but I started in 1989 ( most of you young punks were still in nappies :D ) and I have seen both sides of the coin
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby bazza1 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:54 am

Roseboy wrote:
Amateur Footy wrote:We ran a front page story in Hills and Valley messenger and only got one phone call....less people wanting to play cricket than ever I reckon.

This is something I've talked about a lot with people over the past few years, especially with older guys at our club.

People in general these days, have less time to commit to something that is as time-intensive as cricket. Take section 1 for example, we get to the ground at 12pm, play from 1pm to 6:30pm or 7 depending on over rate, then back to the club for a drink or two, you're lucky to be home by 8. That's a lot of hours for time-poor people which many of us are.

Then there's practice (1 or 2 sessions) and so-on.

More and more people are asked (or asking) to work on Saturdays these days as well, especially retail + tradies. It wasn't common 10 years ago for people to work Saturday afternoons. It certainly is now.

Its also not a sport many of the wives/partners/girlfriends get into (unlike footy), so I have no doubt there's often a lot of pressure put on by them to maybe not play.

So, what are you left with? A lot of older guys who play because they can - you can play competitively up until your in your late 50s in the lower grades. You have your young guys who are at school/uni and of course you're always going to have the guys who just love the game.

You don't have nearly as many mid-late 20s guys there used to be. Whether its due to one of the reasons mentioned, or the fact they just want to laze at the beach - who knows.

I hope I'm wrong, but I wonder if 60 or 75 over a side cricket is a dying sport...


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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby bazza1 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:07 am

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Cricket is a sport which is very time consuming, which some say is a strength as it = more time away from home, but it is hard on families and those with gf's or wives(CK and JB are safe there ;) ) to spend so much time apart on what is commonly the only day they have together now.[/quote]

Why are they an Item :D
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby CoverKing » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:33 pm

bazza1 wrote:.

Cricket is a sport which is very time consuming, which some say is a strength as it = more time away from home, but it is hard on families and those with gf's or wives(CK and JB are safe there ;) ) to spend so much time apart on what is commonly the only day they have together now.


Why are they an Item :D[/quote]

yeah bazza shot-a-ball and turtle work together extremely well, the deadly team no one can stop baz
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Gowser » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:50 pm

bazza1 wrote:Do the boys who have been playing section 1 now for a long time think that the standard has dropped off a bit? Ive been back playing sect 1 for only 4 years now but i have noticed a decline, especially this year, there are some ordinary cricketers playing sect 1. Me included :)


I can't get a section 1 game this year so i am gonna have to say NO.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby Roseboy » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:16 pm

How'd everyone go today?

Glenelg ANA beat us (the Ramblers) comprehensively. They ended up making 3/211 - passing our 187 target.

Basso (their captain and opener) carried his bat for 101*. Batted well, had his fair share of luck, but a very well compiled ton. Daniel Rowe made a great 85 - almost chanceless except for being dropped when on 1.

Needless to say, catches win matches. Off one over, we put both Basso (~25 at the time) and Rowe (on 1) down, both tough chances but definitely catchable. Both go on to win them the game. We dropped Basso about another 4 times. Just to rub it in, he brought up his ton with a snick between the keeper & a wide first slip.

As predicted by a few, myself included - Glenelg ANA are a solid team and will win their fair share of games. Its a shame they had to gel when playing us. Congrats to ANA, they beat us all ends up.

Toughen up Ramblers, got some work to do!
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby wycbloods » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:06 pm

We got smashed by the sharks who are very clear favourites for the flag this year IMO. They bowled fantastically and we batted very poorly so we have a long way to go.
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Re: Adelaide Suburban Cricket Assosciation.

Postby bazza1 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:40 pm

North Haven had a good win against Mitchell Park, our first for the year :D
Good for the young fellas in our side after our 1 wicket loss last game.
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