HFL Division 1 (Central)

[pig_skin]

who's the o'gorman playing for mt lofty? i seen him in the sunday mail with 6 goals the week before and in the best last week? i played with an o'gorman who was a machine. dominated on both feet and would win a game off his own boot. haven't seen or heard from him for years.

I think his name is Rob, heard he played out at centrals some time ago. Dont know where lofty keep pulling them from!!

[The Indian]

Has sodomka been playing in the A's at Ironbank?? Have heard they playin him to qualify in the B's for finals. Surely he wouldnt enjoy running around in the magoo's.
Where is this years Grand Final being played?? Onkas OR Loeby??

[The Indian]

Footballer, saw you posted on the SAAFL site, Will Muirden's the best player running around in the HillS?? have Ironbank been keeping his name out of the best player lists to keep the taggers away???? Is he nominating for this years draft??

[straight shooter]

hows your form footballer? I am not sure Schnider and Roberts will be the answers at Ironbank. Not sure if they can fire many big shots. What else have you got hiding up your sleeve. Aren't they sitting 1 and 10 cann't be much there.

[Thunder Down Under]

I think someone is playing with their football if they think Schneider and Roberts are the answer at Ironbank, good B Graders for mine. As for Will Muirden he has not had a good a season as last due to a lack of good players being around him. I'd say Footballer you are way off the mark, if he was that good he would be down at Sturt alongside young Sam Miles.
Sodomka a class above them in the B Grade but that does not always get you across the line. How often do you see very good players struggle in lesser grades because players look for them too often, put them and the team under pressure and then turn the ball over.
You are on the ball Indian re GF, no doubt Onkas or Lobethal with my preference for Onkas. Lobethal oval very cut up due to the galahs, one told me !!
My news on O'Gorman is that he suffered an injury early season at Mt Lofty and did not play for the remainder. Jury still out as he kicked 6 against Thunderers which is not something you will end up telling the grandkids although they do say he likes having the odd chat. JQ I went on record at the start of the season and said Thunderers would be lucky to win one game with the list they have. They will be Wooden Spooners for 2006 as cannot see a win coming anywhere.

[straight shooter]

Thunder, That can't be the Sodomka running around in the B's of yesterday surely. I would have thought he would be up to association standard. What has he falling out with the club? You in the know?

[on the outside]

footballer u must be drunk or something. schnieder, roberts are both soft and cocky and would struggle to make any other clubs A grade. muirden works hard but is no superstar. as for kempe well what can i say. the only red headed footballer with any class is ben hart.

o gorman does love a chat but good luck understanding a word the man says.
wanabuyaticketformargin fortheAgrade

[on the outside]

what did you say o gorman?

[ball magnet]

TDU.. They may be bottom but Ironbank is far from the worst side going around. Bridgewater were apparently pretty ordinary last Saturday my spies tell me. Even though they were playing a pretty strong side in Lofty, the Raiders showed little discipline and commitment to the cause. Rumours suggest the plastic cones outnumber players on training nights and the club is in a bit of turmoil ... even thoughts of Country Division. Interesting considering they were a regular powerhouse a decade ago. It might irk some people but obviously recruiting quality players is a way to build up a club. Uraidla and Mt Lofty were both near foot of ladder in early stages of this century but have built their strength up. Perhaps clubs like Bridgewater should be preparing now for a quality drive to get some experienced recruits. Interesting other clubs find an ability to attract players of the ilk of Sudjai Cook, Ormond-Allen, S. Russell, Creek, etc. Maybe some influence off the field can help solve the Raiders problems. While Will Muirden gets the job done, Ironbank has a few other kids who have shown a bit, Chris Thomas, Scott Walter, Gareth Williams and Lachlan Keeley are developing talents, so may be the idea of leaving someone like Sodomka in the Bs is the way to go ... he can't play forever, and those kids will be the future. You can only get experience by being out there. Have also heard rumors of Ironbank slipping back to the Country comp ... gee if Bridgy and Thunderers both go, what are we left with ... seven team Central Division. May be time for HFL to put foot down and force even competitions - suggestions Birdwood want to come up have been circulating while surely Kangarilla must come into consideration if they continue to become a dominant force in Country ranks.

[The Indian]

Interesting comments ball magnet. Maybe the Hills could follow suit with the amatuer leagues relegation policy, Top team comes up from div2, and the cellar dwellers from div 1 get relegated. It gives the divvy 2 sides something to strive for, and in the same boat, the divvy 1 teams strive harder to stay out of that last position. As for Sodomka, Paid Players running around in the magoo's???

[straight shooter]

Ball magnet sounds like you are in the know. Interesting comments regarding the make up of the Hills comp. I thought Ironbank were enjoying life (a few more wins would help) They fought hard to be in Div. 1 wouldn't like going back surely. All those kids you mentioned would walk. Then what. A heap of old broken down hacks. What has happened to Bridgy off to a good start. Is their depth crap?

[Justquietly]

BM - some good points, but some blatantly obvious as well. I have some mates at Bridgewater FC and I'm not sure if the actual feeling and atmosphere there has been top shelf for a while now. I know constantly losing doesn't help, but if you get flogged and then there's no real fun being offered with a drink at the club, then what is there? I've been in big losing sides but took solice in a quiet bourbon or 9 after the game. Camaraderie. Doesn't sound like that's there. Then the few recruits they do have, take off after one year, not seeing a future. I'm surprised they had a div1 club this year.
Ironbank will stay in Central, have fought too hard not to. Can't keep just looking towards Marion etc for recruits though.

BUT, I am quite surprised a relegation and promotion system hasn't been used. Perhaps the bottom team and premier only swap. And if 2 teams were to go up, is it the 2 grand final teams or just the top 2 after minor rounds like amateur leagues. Will there need to be some guernsey changes?

[Chook]

Forum,

I think the idea of relegating the bottom side and bringing up the top side is a fantastic idea.

It will only strengthen both competitions!

[Justquietly]

I am not just surprised it hasn't happened, I am actually for it to.
I know there'd be a lot of pressure not to, but I can't see the harm. What a thrill for the premier (or minor premier...is this a problem?) of Country to look forward to being challenged in the top flight the following year.

[Rapper]

Im an old Algate United supporter. I would like to say do not feel sorry for Bridgewater. I watched a mate play his 250th game on saturday. Bridgewater sold their own grog from a truck on the other side of the ground. They yelled abuse to Junior and Senior Colts players that most adults would cringe at. Their coach was off in Germany watching the world cup. There players stuffed toilet paper in the visitors rooms toilet bowl then did a crap on the floor. There captain king hit a player behind play in the face which forced him from the ground with a serious head injury.
Regardless of whether you have money to buy players or not at least play by the rules and enjoy the spirit of the game in the hills. I look forward to seeing Uraidla hand out the same punishment that the Lofty boys gave them.

[magpie in the 80's]

with promotion and demotion i think the league takes a look at the whole strength of the club not just the "a" grade. it is no good promoting say kangarilla to central if their "b" grade and colts are at the bottom of the ladder and demote a side say bridgewater if the "B" grade and colts were high on the ladder. unfotunately since i played in the hills(and thats a fair time ago) the towns just dont have the personnel going around these days to fill 2 senior teams so recruiting by the all mighty dollar comes into play. just my 2 cents worth

[ball magnet]

Guys, seems everyone is in favor of promotion and relegation but it has been mooted in the past .. in fact at a Hills AGM a couple of years ago, delegates voted in favor of the proposal but left it to discretion of board, but nothing came about. Of course, Country clubs must WANT to make the shift. Thunderers are to be congratulated on having foresight to move up and really have worked hard ... guess they probably wouldn't want to drop back in standard. Birdwood and Kersbrook are classic examples of teams coming up in the past but failing to stick to it. Brookers were competitive in 1990, pushing a number of sides, including eventual premier, particularly at Kersbrook, and weren't that bad in '91, but opted to go back to where they reckon they could win more than they lost. Birdwood flag winners in '94, up to Div 1 in 1995, then high tailed it back in '96. Perhaps those clubs who are keen to come up should be extended a period to consolidate and build to being consistent performers. I agree, the whole club must be strong, juniors particularly can suffer ... ask Echunga, some lads went through under-age careers when in Division 1 without much success. It does make for healthy debate, should stronger clubs be forced to come up as has been mentioned by promotion and relegation? Don't know if it's the answer, in Amateur League, particularly A1, a lot of clubs promoted up end back in lower grade in two years, not being able to cope with rise in standard and what is required to be competitive at that level. The make up of HFL Divisions has always been a old chestnut ... Maggy in 80s ... maybe adopt the one tier competition of 1983? ... now that really showed the difference in ability of the two separate divisions ... regular 35+ goal wins by some teams, no wonder there was a spate of centurion goal kickers that year!

[magpie in the 80's]

bm i played that year and after the 1st one or 2 thrashings of div 2 teams the following weeks became boring footy. stand to be corrected but i dont think a div2 "a" grade side actually beating a div one "a" grade team that year which showed just how far the 2divs were at a football standard. i remember one game where we played the forward,s in the backlines and vica versa and still won by 30 goals. just look at sfl now and the cricket scores that are kicked.

[Justquietly]

Im an old Algate United supporter. I would like to say do not feel sorry for Bridgewater. I watched a mate play his 250th game on saturday. Bridgewater sold their own grog from a truck on the other side of the ground. They yelled abuse to Junior and Senior Colts players that most adults would cringe at. Their coach was off in Germany watching the world cup. There players stuffed toilet paper in the visitors rooms toilet bowl then did a crap on the floor. There captain king hit a player behind play in the face which forced him from the ground with a serious head injury.
Regardless of whether you have money to buy players or not at least play by the rules and enjoy the spirit of the game in the hills. I look forward to seeing Uraidla hand out the same punishment that the Lofty boys gave them.

I agree, Rapper. Some of them and their supporteers wouldn't be missed in Central division. Uraidla will also make a mockery of them.

[straight shooter]

ballmagnet What is your mail on the hills boys making the carnival team in Berri?