The Song Remains the Same: Zeppelin flies again

[therisingblues]

Nice write up there REB. Reads nicely, as though it was written by a journalist.

Just on your comment about originality and their first album, I found The Yardbird's version of "Dazed and Confused" on Youtube:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Recd6Us9g&feature=related

From the write up on that song, there is a link to the origins of "Dazed and Confused":

http://www.shindig-magazine.com/pdf/dazed.pdf

It was all news to me, did anyone else know about this stuff?

[Rik E Boy]

In My Time of Dying is awesome, particularly Page's superb guitar work and Bonham's truly thunderous drums.
Robert Plants singing grates somewhat on this track, but the song remains great to crank up loud in the car.

BTW, the (remastered) CD I have does include the extra couple of seconds of guitar right at the end.

Ah, I have the 'original' analog CD recording (i.e. pre-Remasters). Might be time for an update. Never did understand why they would leave that out.

regards,

REB

[Leaping Lindner]

Nice write up there REB. Reads nicely, as though it was written by a journalist.

Just on your comment about originality and their first album, I found The Yardbird's version of "Dazed and Confused" on Youtube:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Recd6Us9g&feature=related

From the write up on that song, there is a link to the origins of "Dazed and Confused":

http://www.shindig-magazine.com/pdf/dazed.pdf

It was all news to me, did anyone else know about this stuff?

Music nerd raises hand.
You might also want to check out "You need loving" on the Small Faces first album.....mmmmm

[Leaping Lindner]

Found this on You Tube. No actual clip but you can hear the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkQpZpFL ... re=related

[Interceptor]

In My Time of Dying is awesome, particularly Page's superb guitar work and Bonham's truly thunderous drums.
Robert Plants singing grates somewhat on this track, but the song remains great to crank up loud in the car.

BTW, the (remastered) CD I have does include the extra couple of seconds of guitar right at the end.

Ah, I have the 'original' analog CD recording (i.e. pre-Remasters). Might be time for an update. Never did understand why they would leave that out.

regards,

REB

Go the whole hog!

A number of years ago I bought the Complete Studio Recordings boxset.
Cost me $200 (down from $300 ), but was well worth it.

Don't know if it's available in Aus anymore (possibly on special order), but Amazon have it:

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Studio-Recordings-Led-Zeppelin/dp/B000002IWP/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1197618052&sr=8-1

[therisingblues]

Found this on You Tube. No actual clip but you can hear the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkQpZpFL ... re=related

Throw in an orgasm and a different riff and it becomes something a little more familiar.
I also found Willie Dixon's version after following your link.
I don't know why Led Zep would give credit for tunes such as "You Shook Me" and "I can't Quit You Babe" to Dixon, but then hold out on others. I like hearing the original verisions of the songs, and get an understanding of where they were coming from when they reinvented the tunes. Even hearing a song that has very little resemblance to the ideas spawned from it gives an insight to what the artist was thinking when inspiration struck.
For example, Bob Dylan's version of "In My Time of Dying" has a lot of passion in it, but that definitely comes from a different vien.

[johntheclaret]

Hey REB, also on the Led Zep II vinyl, on the inside sleeve one track is listed as The Lemon Song, but on the actual album centre, it's listed as Killing Floor.

[bundy]

i have just got robert plant and the strange sensation on dvd that is top stuff as well it has some teasers of zep on it.got all albums on vinyl and the box set of 4 cd's long live zep.

[Mr66]

Hey REB, also on the Led Zep II vinyl, on the inside sleeve one track is listed as The Lemon Song, but on the actual album centre, it's listed as Killing Floor.

Originally a Howlin' Wolf song which Plant took(stole? ) from.
Wolf and/or his estate claimed copyright and for a certain time its was listed
on Led Zeppelin II as this.
Zep & Wolf came to an agreement and this was sorted out.
What you have got JTC is a unique, but not rare, version of this record.

[johntheclaret]

Thanks for the info there Mr66

Just watched The Song Remains the Same (Full movie version) on BBC4. They are doing a series on influencial moments in "POP" history.

Was great watching it again though.

[woodwt]

There is a live zeppelin bootleg cd called killing Floor

[Booney]

14) Led Zeppelin
By Dave Grohl
Posted Apr 15, 2004 12:00 AM

Heavy metal would not exist without Led Zeppelin, and if it did, it would suck. Led Zeppelin were more than just a band -- they were the perfect combination of the most intense elements: passion and mystery and expertise. It always seemed like Led Zeppelin were searching for something. They weren't content being in one place, and they were always trying something new. They could do anything, and I believe they would have done everything if they hadn't been cut short by John Bonham's death. Zeppelin served as a great escape from a lot of things. There was a fantasy element to everything they did, and it was such a major part of what made them important. Who knows if we'd all be watching Lord of the Rings movies right now if it wasn't for Zeppelin.
They were never critically acclaimed in their day, because they were too experimental and they were too fringe. In 1968 and '69, there was some freaky shit going on, but Zeppelin were the freakiest. I consider Jimmy Page freakier than Jimi Hendrix. Hendrix was a genius on fire, whereas Page was a genius possessed. Zeppelin concerts and albums were like exorcisms for them. People had their asses blown out by Hendrix and Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton, but Page took it to a whole new level, and he did it in such a beautifully human and imperfect way. He plays the guitar like an old bluesman on acid. When I listen to Zeppelin bootlegs, his solos can make me laugh or they can make me tear up. Any live version of "Since I Been Loving You" will bring you to tears and fill you with joy all at once. Page doesn't just use his guitar as an instrument. For him, it's like some sort of emotional translator.

John Bonham played the drums like someone who didn't know what was going to happen next -- like he was teetering on the edge of a cliff. No one has come close to that since, and I don't think anybody ever will. I think he will forever be the greatest drummer of all time. You have no idea how much he influenced me. I spent years in my bedroom -- literally ******* years -- listening to Bonham's drums and trying to emulate his swing or his behind-the-beat swagger or his speed or power. Not just memorizing what he did on those albums but getting myself into a place where I would have the same instinctual direction as he had. I have John Bonham tattoos all over my body -- on my wrists, my arms, my shoulders. I gave myself one when I was fifteen. It's the three circles that were his insignia on Zeppelin IV and on the front of his kick drum.

"Black Dog," from Zeppelin IV, is what Led Zeppelin were all about in their most rocking moments, a perfect example of their true might. It didn't have to be really distorted or really fast, it just had to be Zeppelin and it was really heavy. Then there's Zeppelin's sensitive side -- something people overlook, because we think of them as rock beasts, but Zeppelin III was full of gentle beauty. That was the soundtrack to me dropping out of high school. I listened to it every single day in my VW bug, while I contemplated my direction in life. That album, for whatever reason, saved some light in me that I still have.

I heard them for the first time on AM radio in the Seventies, right around the time that "Stairway to Heaven" was so popular. I was six or seven years old, which is when I'd just started discovering music. But it wasn't until I was a teenager that I discovered the first two Zeppelin records, which were handed down to me from the real stoners. We had a lot of those in the suburbs of Virginia, and a lot of muscle cars and keggers and Zeppelin and acid and weed. Somehow they all went hand in hand. To me, Zeppelin were spiritually inspirational. I was going to Catholic school and questioning God, but I believed in Led Zeppelin. I wasn't really buying into this Christianity thing, but I had faith in Led Zeppelin as a spiritual entity. They showed me that human beings could channel this music somehow and that it was coming from somewhere. It wasn't coming from a songbook. It wasn't coming from a producer. It wasn't coming from an instructor. It was coming from somewhere else.

I believe Zeppelin will come back and prove themselves to once again be the greatest rock band of all time. It will happen. They'll find someone to play the drums and I'll be right there, front row at every goddamn show. Then I could finally die a happy man.

(From RS 946, April 15, 2004)

[johntheclaret]

Nice find Booney.

Couldn't have put it better myself. 1st heard Led Zepp when I lived in Oz. Think the station was Radio 5KA then. Mostly played mainstream pop / chart music. Then one day they played Whole Lotta Love. I was hooked.

[Interceptor]

WTF? Jimmy and Co to continue Zeppelin without Plant?


Led Zeppelin to tour, record without singer Plant

LONDON - Legendary rock band Led Zeppelin are planning to return to recording and touring - without singer and frontman Robert Plant, bassist John Paul Jones told BBC Radio.

Jones said the hard-rocking British group were trying out different singers to replace Plant, who has repeatedly voiced his reluctance to join in a full reunion after a mammoth one-off gig at the O2 Arena in London last December.

Some 20 million people applied for 20,000 tickets for the charity concert - the band's first full gig since they split in 1980 following the death of drummer John Bonham.

Jones said he, guitarist Jimmy Page and Bonham's drummer son Jason were keen to get out playing concerts again - and were not hanging around waiting for Plant to change his mind.

"We are trying out a couple of singers," the 62-year-old said. "We want to do it. It's sounding great and we want to get on and get out there."

Jones said the band were not searching for a Plant replica.

"It's got to be right. There's no point in just finding another Robert," he said. "You could get that out of a tribute band, but we don't want to be our own tribute band.

"There would be a record and a tour, but everyone has to be on board."

The O2 show - the first time the original three played together in public for 19 years - was part of a tribute concert for the late Atlantic Records founder Ahmet Ertegun, who signed the group in 1968.

Led Zeppelin went on to sell more than 300 million albums worldwide, with Stairway to Heaven, Whole Lotta Love and Kashmir among their best-loved songs.

Jones said the one-off London show was "wonderful."

"The most pleasure is making music. I love listening to it, but nothing is as much fun as having an instrument in my hand and communicating with people," he said.

Preparing for the O2 concert had been "very hard work," but everything had clicked on the night, he added.

"It felt like the next night of the last tour."

But while the others seem keen on keeping the momentum going from their hugely successful reunion gig, Plant has said the context would have to feel right and he would not want to tour old material and become their own tribute act.

Plant has been busy touring with US country violinist Alison Krauss following a well-received hit album together.

In a statement on his website on September 29, Plant said he had "no intention whatsoever" of touring with anyone for at least the next two years once his current tour ends.

"Contrary to a spate of recent reports, Robert Plant will not be touring or recording with Led Zeppelin. Anyone buying tickets online to any such (an) event will be buying bogus tickets," the statement read.

Plant said: "It's both frustrating and ridiculous for this story to continue to rear its head when all the musicians that surround the story are keen to get on with their individual projects and move forward.

"I wish Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones and Jason Bonham nothing but success with any future projects," he added.


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/entertainment/music/led-zeppelin-to-tour-record-without-singer-plant/2008/10/28/1224956044936.html



If it happens then it would be a pretty dubious exercise most would think:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7695866.stm

Who would go along to see a concert without Plant out front?

[Leaping Lindner]

Silliest thing I've heard since Dead Kennedys "reformed" and toured without Jello Biafra.

[Mr66]

...or Marillion without Fish.

Seriously, I cannot believe the rest of Zep are contemplating this.
I had a hard time getting used to Jason Bonham filling in for dad, even though with the blessing of the other members.
I really can't envisage this.
I hope it's all a plot to make Robert eventually say yes to a full scale reunion.

[Rik E Boy]

Plant can't hit the notes anymore anyway. His voice died in the late 70's. There hasn't been a Zep release since Presence with the true Plant sound. His voice was gawnski on In through the out door. You might as well chuck in that bloke from the Darkness Justin whatisname.

Plant was always the weakest member of Zeppelin even though his songwriting is sublime. I still reckon it would be a good show.

regards,

REB

[The Real Number 3]

Jack White favoured to be new lead singer

[Rik E Boy]

Jack White favoured to be new lead singer

Hope he goes better than Cameron White.....

regards,

REB

[Interceptor]

Jack White favoured to be new lead singer

Actually that would be pretty awesome with Jack, being a pretty damn good guitarist as well.

Wonder if they've considered the guy from Kingdom Come?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJiVPt-KRQ