3RD TEST IN V AU + chatter

[NFC]

I thin Kat's bowling abilities are under-rated, he'd be more than handy in India, he can turn the ball.

Hayden
Marsh
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke
Katich
Watson
Haddin
Lee
Johnson
Clark

Not a bad side at all. Personally I think Marsh would make an awesome #6. Are there any specialist #6 batsmen these days? Maybe not, but I would just like to see him down the order because I feel he could be pretty special down there. I'd like to see Jaques opening at the start of the NZ series.

[Drop Bear]

Have you got any foreign rashes there DB

Have you been speaking to my doctor?

You've been holidaying recently haven't you?

Yeah. I might have enjoyed some time away.
Was going to replace Watson in the Test side, but they decided against it.

[Lightning McQueen]

Have you got any foreign rashes there DB

Have you been speaking to my doctor?

You've been holidaying recently haven't you?

Yeah. I might have enjoyed some time away.
Was going to replace Watson in the Test side, but they decided against it.

He'll get injured before too long.

I know Tubby, he had some funny stories.

[Drop Bear]

I know Tubby, he had some funny stories.

No worries. Hopefully the no neck bastard didn't drop me in too much sh*t.
I'll say G'day for you tonight at tea.

[am Bays]

Hayden
Marsh
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke
Watson
Haddin
Lee
Johnson
Clark
Siddle.

Too easy.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/cricket/delhi-pitch-a-gift-for-kumbles-spin/2008/10/22/1224351351838.html

Whose going to bowl spin on the "bunsen" being prepared for Kumble?

Clarke's back is f***ed hence why he didn't bowl in the last test. He isn't physically able to bowl 60 overs a test as a frontline spinner part time for a few overs maybe but not a frontliner.

So you need Krejza/White and even Katich in the team.

[Hondo]

The Indian batsman will eat up the part-time spinners we shouldn't think a Clarke or a Katich is the answer

So I think we have to accept that White is the best we have available right now. I don't think we can not play a spinner at all or they'll get 800. If 3 specialist pacemen can't do the job then having a 4th won't make any difference.

Rightly or wrongly, White's not in the side as an all-rounder. He's in there as the specialist spinner. Based on Sheffield Shield stats he's one of the best currently available which is an indictment on where we are at but nothing we can do about in the next week.

[Lightning McQueen]

The Indian batsman will eat up the part-time spinners we shouldn't think a Clarke or a Katich is the answer

So I think we have to accept that White is the best we have available right now. I don't think we can not play a spinner at all or they'll get 800. If 3 specialist pacemen can't do the job then having a 4th won't make any difference.

Rightly or wrongly, White's not in the side as an all-rounder. He's in there as the specialist spinner. Based on Sheffield Shield stats he's one of the best currently available which is an indictment on where we are at but nothing we can do about in the next week.

Bring back Trevor Chappell

[MADDOG3]

The Indian batsman will eat up the part-time spinners we shouldn't think a Clarke or a Katich is the answer

So I think we have to accept that White is the best we have available right now. I don't think we can not play a spinner at all or they'll get 800. If 3 specialist pacemen can't do the job then having a 4th won't make any difference.

Rightly or wrongly, White's not in the side as an all-rounder. He's in there as the specialist spinner. Based on Sheffield Shield stats he's one of the best currently available which is an indictment on where we are at but nothing we can do about in the next week.

Gee if White's one of the best spin bowlers in the country I reckon I might have a go at a few leggies... I might get a Test by 30!

What's wrong with Beau Casson? He's certainly much better than Krezja (FC bowling avg: 50) and White. Even Dan Cullen should be ahead in the queue! Another one-Test wonder who CA wisely decided to chuck aside. Good work guys.

At best, White is a part-time spinner just as much as a Clarke or Katich. Therefore we should bring in a specialist bowler or batsman. Am I the only person who sees White as a 'nothing' player in this side?

[mal]

what this team needs in the subcont
attacking middle order batsman
bowls off spinners
bowls meduim pace
fields unbelievably well ....

[Lightning McQueen]

what this team needs in the subcont
attacking middle order batsman
bowls off spinners
bowls meduim pace
fields unbelievably well ....

And drinks too much p!ss, when he should be setting an example to the kids around the country that it is an honour to represent your country. Too many times, 1 set of team rules, no matter who you are, good on CA for making a stance.

[jackpot jim]

what this team needs in the subcont
attacking middle order batsman
bowls off spinners
bowls meduim pace
fields unbelievably well ....

Wrong MAL !
They just need to throw a bit of $$$$ in the pocket of JOHN the Local Indian Bookie. Problem Solvered.

[Hondo]

Gee if White's one of the best spin bowlers in the country I reckon I might have a go at a few leggies... I might get a Test by 30!

What's wrong with Beau Casson? He's certainly much better than Krezja (FC bowling avg: 50) and White. Even Dan Cullen should be ahead in the queue! Another one-Test wonder who CA wisely decided to chuck aside. Good work guys.

At best, White is a part-time spinner just as much as a Clarke or Katich. Therefore we should bring in a specialist bowler or batsman. Am I the only person who sees White as a 'nothing' player in this side?

I never said he's one of the best. I said, right this second, he's probably the best we can come up with in 4 days time.

White's average in first class cricket is 38.75 (166 wickets)
Casson = 40.65 (110 wickets)
Cullen = 41.80 (123 wickets)
MADDOG = 0.00 (0 wickets)

I am not saying White's a star nor am I President of his fan club. But he's over there with Krezja and we have to pick a side in 4 days or so. I don't think we can take either 4 pace bowlers (or only 3 ) into that particular match. It's cricket suicide IMO look at the deck they are preparing.

[rod_rooster]

Katich will not and should not be dropped. He has earnt his spot back in the Test side through sheer weight of runs and he has taken his opportunity. Playing a guy because he is "the future of Australian cricket" and not because he has the runs on the board is a stupid thing to suggest. You pick the best available XI currently not the XI with the most potential down the track. Doing so is firstly unfair on the guys who deserve their spot and secondly unfair on the guys picked to have that pressure and expectation heaped upon them before they have served their apprenticeship. You risk ruining players if you play them too early and they aren't ready.

[Lightning McQueen]

Gee if White's one of the best spin bowlers in the country I reckon I might have a go at a few leggies... I might get a Test by 30!

What's wrong with Beau Casson? He's certainly much better than Krezja (FC bowling avg: 50) and White. Even Dan Cullen should be ahead in the queue! Another one-Test wonder who CA wisely decided to chuck aside. Good work guys.

At best, White is a part-time spinner just as much as a Clarke or Katich. Therefore we should bring in a specialist bowler or batsman. Am I the only person who sees White as a 'nothing' player in this side?

I never said he's one of the best. I said, right this second, he's probably the best we can come up with in 4 days time.

White's average in first class cricket is 38.75 (166 wickets)
Casson = 40.65 (110 wickets)
Cullen = 41.80 (123 wickets)
MADDOG = 0.00 (0 wickets)

I am not saying White's a star nor am I President of his fan club. But he's over there with Krezja and we have to pick a side in 4 days or so. I don't think we can take either 4 pace bowlers (or only 3 ) into that particular match. It's cricket suicide IMO look at the deck they are preparing.

MADDOG is a great spinner

[NFC]

Katich will not and should not be dropped. He has earnt his spot back in the Test side through sheer weight of runs and he has taken his opportunity. Playing a guy because he is "the future of Australian cricket" and not because he has the runs on the board is a stupid thing to suggest. You pick the best available XI currently not the XI with the most potential down the track. Doing so is firstly unfair on the guys who deserve their spot and secondly unfair on the guys picked to have that pressure and expectation heaped upon them before they have served their apprenticeship. You risk ruining players if you play them too early and they aren't ready.

Michael Clarke made his debut despite having a FC average of 35 at the time.

[MADDOG3]

I never said he's one of the best. I said, right this second, he's probably the best we can come up with in 4 days time.

White's average in first class cricket is 38.75 (166 wickets)
Casson = 40.65 (110 wickets)
Cullen = 41.80 (123 wickets)
MADDOG = 0.00 (0 wickets)

I am not saying White's a star nor am I President of his fan club. But he's over there with Krezja and we have to pick a side in 4 days or so. I don't think we can take either 4 pace bowlers (or only 3 ) into that particular match. It's cricket suicide IMO look at the deck they are preparing.

That's okay I didn't think you held White in the highest regard, Hondo. However I don't think White's bowling is any more useful than a Katich or a Clarke. That's why I think we should include another specialist batsman or bowler.

Oh, re the outstanding 0.00 average, I need time to develop my craft

[rod_rooster]

Katich will not and should not be dropped. He has earnt his spot back in the Test side through sheer weight of runs and he has taken his opportunity. Playing a guy because he is "the future of Australian cricket" and not because he has the runs on the board is a stupid thing to suggest. You pick the best available XI currently not the XI with the most potential down the track. Doing so is firstly unfair on the guys who deserve their spot and secondly unfair on the guys picked to have that pressure and expectation heaped upon them before they have served their apprenticeship. You risk ruining players if you play them too early and they aren't ready.

Michael Clarke made his debut despite having a FC average of 35 at the time.

Good point, however Clarke had become a regular member of the one day side by then and he also replaced an injured Ricky Ponting and only one series after Steve Waugh retired. The suggestion of replacing Katich with Marsh is entirely different.

[NFC]

Katich will not and should not be dropped. He has earnt his spot back in the Test side through sheer weight of runs and he has taken his opportunity. Playing a guy because he is "the future of Australian cricket" and not because he has the runs on the board is a stupid thing to suggest. You pick the best available XI currently not the XI with the most potential down the track. Doing so is firstly unfair on the guys who deserve their spot and secondly unfair on the guys picked to have that pressure and expectation heaped upon them before they have served their apprenticeship. You risk ruining players if you play them too early and they aren't ready.

Michael Clarke made his debut despite having a FC average of 35 at the time.

Good point, however Clarke had become a regular member of the one day side by then and he also replaced an injured Ricky Ponting and only one series after Steve Waugh retired. The suggestion of replacing Katich with Marsh is entirely different.

Is Marsh now a regular member of our ODI side? Hmmmm.

Okay then, keep Katich (for now) and put Marsh at 6, Watto 7, Haddin 8 then the bowlers. Weak bowling line-up no doubt but we're not losing much as White doesn't/can't bowl anyway.

[Pag]

I think the interesting point is whether Kumble or Mishra will play. i think I read somewhere that Delhi is Kumble's most successful track in the world so he would get back in, but you'd be feeling pretty unlucky if you were Mishra.

I'd be picking White again, simply because he is the best spinner we have at the moment, regardless of how bad he is, and he can make runs, even though he hasn't shown it yet. Would not be playing Krezja, and I'd stick Clark back in for Siddle if he's fit.

So, in essence, the same side as the first test.

[Lightning McQueen]

I think the interesting point is whether Kumble or Mishra will play. i think I read somewhere that Delhi is Kumble's most successful track in the world so he would get back in, but you'd be feeling pretty unlucky if you were Mishra.

I'd be picking White again, simply because he is the best spinner we have at the moment, regardless of how bad he is, and he can make runs, even though he hasn't shown it yet. Would not be playing Krezja, and I'd stick Clark back in for Siddle if he's fit.

So, in essence, the same side as the first test.

Kumble will be in for sure, Mishra will get his turn. I'd hate to see some of the chicks you pull there Pag, with that philosophy. There is no point picking White because "he is the best we have", if he's not up to the standard, have a different game plan.

If there's nothing worth having a go at, leave it alone.

White is poo at this level, bat or ball.