2nd Test: India v Australia at Mohali

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The biggest defeats Australia has had by runs are:
675 - vs England, Brisbane Exhibition, 1928/29
408 - vs West Indies, Adelaide, 1979/80
343 - vs West Indies, Bridgetown, 1990/91
338 - vs England, Adelaide, 1932/33
323 - vs South Africa, Port Elizabeth, 1969/70
322 - vs England, Gabba, 1936/37
320 - vs India, Mohali, 2008/09
307 - vs South Africa, Johannesburg, 1969/70

[stan]

This game of cricket makes me feel sad, I have never (in my time), seen the Aussies like this.

I have, I remember the West Indies!

[Interceptor]

Well what a thrashing.

Too many batsmen either bowled or LBW.
Good bowling by the Indians, but poor judgement and footwork by the Australians.

Real lack of penetration by the bowlers.
Didn't see a helluva lot of variation by the pacemen.
How about attempting a few yorkers from time to time, get the opposition guessing a little more??
The Indian fast bowlers are outclassing ours and their team are looking after the ball far better.
The Aussies seem fairly clueless as to how the Indians are getting their reverse swing.

[hawkseye]

Its only 1 match people. I think the umpires need to sort there shit out though. I understand they can make the occasional mistake but at the moment there seems to be too many.
2nd innings alone there was the stumping given not out, the caught behind given not out and Haydens lbw wasnt out for mine and they are ones off the top of my head.

[rod_rooster]

Its only 1 match people. I think the umpires need to sort there s***t out though. I understand they can make the occasional mistake but at the moment there seems to be too many.
2nd innings alone there was the stumping given not out, the caught behind given not out and Haydens lbw wasnt out for mine and they are ones off the top of my head.

I think the majority of the errors were from one end. Rudi i'm talking about you. Give it away.

There was an incident today where Mitchell Johnson got a big knick behind. The ball fell just short of Dhoni but it would have been impossible for Rudi to know for sure and it looks as though he has turned down the appeal on the basis that he didn't think Johnson hit it. He is seriously losing the plot.

[Gozu]

On Fox they were talking like it's a formality that Krejza will be coming in for White. As lame as White is I wouldn't even consider it. Krejza "took" 0/200 in that warm-up game and White is a far superior batter. I wish Stuart Clark was fit might've been a different game if so. He's been our best bowler for a good three years now.

I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

The second they get back here I'd drop him and unleash Tait on the Kiwi's again. That would build Tait's confidence up enough against their second stringer's and give the selector's a good enough look at him leading into the home and away series against South Africa.

[Adelaide Hawk]

I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

What a heap of pig droppings.

[Rik E Boy]

I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

What a heap of pig droppings.

Agreed. Lee has improved a lot on the last few years but some haven't noticed. How many times does it have to be said IT'S A TOUGH GIG IN INDIA.

Warnie averaged 50+ in his first two series over there. If Spin bowlers aren't matchwinners, or at the very least capable of holding down an end then they shouldn't be selected just because they can hit sixes in the Franger Cup. The White selection is the worst of the decade. He bowled 84 overs in the Moo Moo last year and all of a sudden he's our spinner against the best batting lineup in World Cricket. White's wickets have been give ups from batsmen going for the tonk (with the exception of his first). If the spinners aren't good enough don't pick them.

regards,

REB

[MAY-Z]

Its only 1 match people. I think the umpires need to sort there s***t out though. I understand they can make the occasional mistake but at the moment there seems to be too many.
2nd innings alone there was the stumping given not out, the caught behind given not out and Haydens lbw wasnt out for mine and they are ones off the top of my head.

rubbish there- although yes rudi is struggling - the bad decisions in thsi series haqve been reasonably even- there was nothing wrong with the lbw against hayden - hit him in line and was hitting the stumps, shane watson being given given not out in teh first innings was clearly the worst decison of the match

[am Bays]

a few of our batsmen have shown is that once youa re in you are very difficult to get out as the wicket is so true.

So the Australian cricket team aren't even flat track bullies any more?

Hilarious to see Lee and Ponting going the niggle as soon as they're on the back foot.

LOL at the "argument", team is disarray??

Gee does anyone, remember the Border and McDermott verbals at Glocester in 1993 tour. "******* keep that up pal and your on the next plane home"

I bet Lee adn Ponting have sorted it out over a beer last night whilst endles rheems of newspritn report a team in turmoil/niggle...

[brod]

I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

What a heap of pig droppings.

Lee played only two of the four test matches vs India in 03/04 (including the only Aussie win in the series) and was the second leading fast bowling wicket taker for Australia, behind Gillespie.

His figures are far from his career best, especially conceeding 4.7 RPO (heavily influenced by the Indian performance at SCG where they scored 7/705 & 2/211 both in nearly run a minute time after the Aussies took in only four bowlers plus Katich and Martyn) but he took wickets. You might also want to have a look at the bowlers in that side who would have been operating from the other end, such as Brad Williams and Nathan Bracken.

[brod]

Observations

- Looking through Brett Lee's career record a couple of things that you wouldnt expect to see on the record of a bowler closing in on 300 wickets (currently 293)

- Best Bowling Innings 5/30 (Flintoff is the only other bowler to take 200 wickets without taking 6 wickets in an innings)
- Best Bowling Match 8/110 (Flintoff is the only other bowler to take more than 200 wickets without taking 9 wickets in a match)
- Average 29.98 (no fast bowler who has taken 250+ wickets has a higher average)
- RPO 3.46 (no other bowler who has taken 200+ test wickets has a RPO of more than 3.3, no other Australian bowler who has taken 65+ test wickets has a RPO of more than 3.3)

[hearts on fire]

Brett Lee has had a very up and down career and at the moment he is just in a down patch, he'll bounce back just like Haydos.

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I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

That series was a run fest though, both Adelaide and Sydney had 1,500 runs in those Tests, and there has only been 30 odd such Tests. The Sydney Test had 1,747 runs and that's the 2nd highest scoring Test over 5 days.

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/A ... /1381.html

[Adelaide Hawk]

I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

That series was a run fest though, both Adelaide and Sydney had 1,500 runs in those Tests, and there has only been 30 odd such Tests. The Sydney Test had 1,747 runs and that's the 2nd highest scoring Test over 5 days.

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/A ... /1381.html

Spelly, don't try to reason with someone who "doesn't rate" one of the leading wicket takers in Australian Test history. It's pointless.

[spell_check]

I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

That series was a run fest though, both Adelaide and Sydney had 1,500 runs in those Tests, and there has only been 30 odd such Tests. The Sydney Test had 1,747 runs and that's the 2nd highest scoring Test over 5 days.

http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/A ... /1381.html

Spelly, don't try to reason with someone who "doesn't rate" one of the leading wicket takers in Australian Test history. It's pointless.

That sounds to me like a challenge.

[rod_rooster]

Quite simply you do not take 293 Test wickets if you are not a very very good bowler. That is all.

[mal]

EDITORIAL BRETT LEE

I have at times been critical of Brett LEE
But also full of praise
Without looking at stats he seems to be a very good bowler on AU pitches
O/SEAS on tracks with less venom and bounce he tends to skid and come onto the bat
BUT
One thing A/HAWK has rightfully argued with me in the past, is you need an enforcer, a guy thats quick and unsettles the opposition
LEE has paid his way, particularly early in his career

[Gozu]

I've never rated Lee as a Test bowler. Took so many cheap wickets in the Warne/McGrath era and will never forget how badly he was exposed when both those guys were missing in the 03/04 series against India here. Always smirking and carrying on like a pork chop when he gets some tailender out. Front runner.

What a heap of pig droppings.

You can disagree with my opinion of Lee but you can't disagree with the numbers. 2/103 (10nb), 2/97, 4/201 (18nb), 0/75 (6nb). Series figures of 8 wickets @ 59.50 going for nearly five runs an over.

He's been poor this series with an injured or missing Stuart Clark too. Ponting clearly doesn't think much of his work this series. It's why there's so much speculation that he's close to being dropped, there's no one around to do the heavy lifting for him.

[Rik E Boy]

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