Adelaide Plains Football League

[jumbo]

Where are the boundaries for Two Wells 'locals'?

think u find that no club has its own boundaries.
south boundary for apfl would be near speedway
east boundary just goes through the edge of gawler

Two Wells boundaries are the same as every other clubs' in the APFL - roughly where Unc has defined.

whats your tips for 2009 season jumbo?
Your a man in the know in the apfl. final 4?

Thanks for the vote of confidence KO - my guess is a good as anyones I suppose - if not ever so slightly biased

1. Two Wells
2. Balaklava
3. HWE
4. Mallala
5. Virginia
6. United
7. Hamley

[uncle_fester]

i thought each team had its own boundaries....so that it stop teams poaching locals from other teams..for example a united local would be classed as a two wells import and so on.. if you get my drift? but im not sure? can someone clarify?

100% sure that there is only a league boundary
to stop poaching clubs can refuse to give players a clearance to other clubs in the league
this could mean that if a player wanted to change clubs and his previous club didnt want him too, they could make him stand out for a year or two

[jumbo]

i thought each team had its own boundaries....so that it stop teams poaching locals from other teams..for example a united local would be classed as a two wells import and so on.. if you get my drift? but im not sure? can someone clarify?

I believe that is not correct. A 'local' to any team can come from anywhere in the APFLs defined zone.

[jumbo]

i thought each team had its own boundaries....so that it stop teams poaching locals from other teams..for example a united local would be classed as a two wells import and so on.. if you get my drift? but im not sure? can someone clarify?

100% sure that there is only a league boundary
to stop poaching clubs can refuse to give players a clearance to other clubs in the league
this could mean that if a player wanted to change clubs and his previous club didnt want him too, they could make him stand out for a year or two

I also believe the league will support the club holding the player - but many things come into the equation, i.e. who is the player, A grade games played, getting a fair go where he is, how good is he, player not happy ..... etc etc

Most players changing clubs tend to be either unwanted by their club, instigate the move themselves (not neccessarily poached) or not the dominant A graders. The list supplied a few pages back shows the number of interleague transfers and there was not many - don't know how that compares with other leages but I would not think it is above average for country leagues.

[uncle_fester]

i thought each team had its own boundaries....so that it stop teams poaching locals from other teams..for example a united local would be classed as a two wells import and so on.. if you get my drift? but im not sure? can someone clarify?

100% sure that there is only a league boundary
to stop poaching clubs can refuse to give players a clearance to other clubs in the league
this could mean that if a player wanted to change clubs and his previous club didnt want him too, they could make him stand out for a year or two

I also believe the league will support the club holding the player - but many things come into the equation, i.e. who is the player, A grade games played, getting a fair go where he is, how good is he, player not happy ..... etc etc

Most players changing clubs tend to be either unwanted by their club, instigate the move themselves (not neccessarily poached) or not the dominant A graders. The list supplied a few pages back shows the number of interleague transfers and there was not many - don't know how that compares with other leages but I would not think it is above average for country leagues.

spot on jumbo.
with all your knowledge & sensible attitude you should think about running as a league director!
or what about coaching?
or too busy?

fyi - the number of interleague transfers is very comparable to blg

[keen observer]

i like your biased ladder there jumbo..Two Wells will no doubt be very competitive especially if they are able to recruit a couple of experienced defenders....but whether top possy is a possibility we will have to wait and see?

[jumbo]

i like your biased ladder there jumbo..Two Wells will no doubt be very competitive especially if they are able to recruit a couple of experienced defenders....but whether top possy is a possibility we will have to wait and see?

Indeed they will - can always hope - my memory of the last premiership is fading too quickly ....

[Ace of Spades]

what a load eagles population base is big enough and is only going to get bigger along with two well/ Virginia hamley going backwards and everyone else about the same. Longies get players from other clubs (now starting with juniors) so imports are no more important to them. The only way you can realistically assign imports is on recent past form. This runs along the same lines as the afl reverse order draft. Everyone just wants their club to get an edge over the rest.

Ok numb nuts, explain your way through this:

Two Wells 2349 people, median age of population 35
Balaklava 1627 people, median age of population 46
Virginia 1434 people, median age of population 38 (Only 13% Asian, 2gd4U)
Mallala 1033 people, median age of population 40
Hamley Bridge 783 people, median age of population 40
Pt Wakey + Lochiel 644 people, median age of population 46
United??

[jumbo]

I also believe the league will support the club holding the player - but many things come into the equation, i.e. who is the player, A grade games played, getting a fair go where he is, how good is he, player not happy ..... etc etc

Most players changing clubs tend to be either unwanted by their club, instigate the move themselves (not neccessarily poached) or not the dominant A graders. The list supplied a few pages back shows the number of interleague transfers and there was not many - don't know how that compares with other leages but I would not think it is above average for country leagues.

spot on jumbo.
with all your knowledge & sensible attitude you should think about running as a league director!
or what about coaching?
or too busy?

fyi - the number of interleague transfers is very comparable to blg

yea thought it would be - a high level of loyalty within country football leagues - don't think the same level exists inter-league.

a league director - that's hitting below the belt ....

wish I had the time Unc .... already too much on the go for the big fella ....

[jumbo]

what a load eagles population base is big enough and is only going to get bigger along with two well/ Virginia hamley going backwards and everyone else about the same. Longies get players from other clubs (now starting with juniors) so imports are no more important to them. The only way you can realistically assign imports is on recent past form. This runs along the same lines as the afl reverse order draft. Everyone just wants their club to get an edge over the rest.

Ok numb nuts, explain your way through this:

Two Wells 2349 people, median age of population 35
Balaklava 1627 people, median age of population 46
Virginia 1434 people, median age of population 38 (Only 13% Asian, 2gd4U)
Mallala 1033 people, median age of population 40
Hamley Bridge 783 people, median age of population 40
Pt Wakey + Lochiel 644 people, median age of population 46
United??

Looks like APFL needs to start a Masters AFL league ...... (over 35's) .....

[maidenmagpie]

the apfl clubs DO have only a league boundry,a player can change clubs as a local BUT only if the club they are leaving lets them do so,they can make a player stand out of playing for 3yrs if they dont let them go,the next step is then the sanfl tribunal where each party puts forward there side of it,and then a decesion can be handed down,dont qoute me here but i think to that if you leave the league and come back under 3 yrs you must still be cleared by that club,dumb rule i reckon,a import who plays for 3 yrs AT THE SAME CLUB then becomes a local of the league,bluey looking at the gawler clubs.

[keen observer]

someone said the southern boundary was speedway , what are the eastern and northern boundaries of the league does anyone know?

[uncle_fester]

someone said the southern boundary was speedway , what are the eastern and northern boundaries of the league does anyone know?

eastern just collects some of gawler
northern just before clare
western just before water...

[maidenmagpie]

yea thats just about right with the boundrys.

[maidenmagpie]

has anyone noticed the time on here is still hr behind

[streakofpelican]

what a load eagles population base is big enough and is only going to get bigger along with two well/ Virginia hamley going backwards and everyone else about the same. Longies get players from other clubs (now starting with juniors) so imports are no more important to them. The only way you can realistically assign imports is on recent past form. This runs along the same lines as the afl reverse order draft. Everyone just wants their club to get an edge over the rest.

Ok numb nuts, explain your way through this:

Two Wells 2349 people, median age of population 35
Balaklava 1627 people, median age of population 46
Virginia 1434 people, median age of population 38 (Only 13% Asian, 2gd4U)
Mallala 1033 people, median age of population 40
Hamley Bridge 783 people, median age of population 40
Pt Wakey + Lochiel 644 people, median age of population 46
United??

hey ace, if you are going to "quote" statistics can you reference them for me please, so that a bit of checking can be done. anyone can put in what ever numbers they want onto a forum. and by the looks of things you have just included the townships of pt wakefield and lociel, doesnt HWE have a larger zone than that. united are really the only club who can seriously play the population card (even though i dont think they need to), as for growth what happens when lewiston really takes off, the virginia grove comes to bare fruit and of course that marina thing at pt wakefield.

[Ace of Spades]

what a load eagles population base is big enough and is only going to get bigger along with two well/ Virginia hamley going backwards and everyone else about the same. Longies get players from other clubs (now starting with juniors) so imports are no more important to them. The only way you can realistically assign imports is on recent past form. This runs along the same lines as the afl reverse order draft. Everyone just wants their club to get an edge over the rest.

Ok numb nuts, explain your way through this:

Two Wells 2349 people, median age of population 35
Balaklava 1627 people, median age of population 46
Virginia 1434 people, median age of population 38 (Only 13% Asian, 2gd4U)
Mallala 1033 people, median age of population 40
Hamley Bridge 783 people, median age of population 40
Pt Wakey + Lochiel 644 people, median age of population 46
United??

hey ace, if you are going to "quote" statistics can you reference them for me please, so that a bit of checking can be done. anyone can put in what ever numbers they want onto a forum. and by the looks of things you have just included the townships of pt wakefield and lociel, doesnt HWE have a larger zone than that. united are really the only club who can seriously play the population card (even though i dont think they need to), as for growth what happens when lewiston really takes off, the virginia grove comes to bare fruit and of course that marina thing at pt wakefield.

My apologies,

http://www.censusdata.abs.gov.au/ABSNav ... PL&topic=&

check away

And how can United be the only team that can play the population card the census data clearly shows that some clubs have up to 4 times the population in their immediate town than others. Two Wells for example should be able to fill 4 A grade teams with that population ( ). And as far as growth, lets deal in cold hard data not on the possibility that a Marina may be developed in 10 years if it ever gets through planning approval...

[Ace of Spades]

has anyone noticed the time on here is still hr behind

Yeah I did when I coped sh1t for "working hard" last night at 6pm

[The Rooster]

Two Wells have been speaking with a CHF by the name of Barry Sydney!

I did ask if it was A barry From sydney ie: BARRY Hall, Leo BARRY i was told the blokes name IS Barry Sydney from Penrith or somewhere over there, apparently he is a blood nut, so that would already add to the Fanta Pants brigade we have in the plains already.

[Ace of Spades]

the apfl clubs DO have only a league boundry,a player can change clubs as a local BUT only if the club they are leaving lets them do so,they can make a player stand out of playing for 3yrs if they dont let them go,the next step is then the sanfl tribunal where each party puts forward there side of it,and then a decesion can be handed down,dont qoute me here but i think to that if you leave the league and come back under 3 yrs you must still be cleared by that club,dumb rule i reckon,a import who plays for 3 yrs AT THE SAME CLUB then becomes a local of the league,bluey looking at the gawler clubs.

Sorry...had to be done