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Clean Sweep

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:38 pm

For the first time since 1973 Glenelg has had a clean sweep for the season of the other 3 members of the "Big Four"

1973

Defeated Sturt 4 times
Defeated Port Adelaide Twice
Defeated Norwood Twice

2008

Defeated Sturt 3 times
Defeated Port Adelaide Twice
Defeated Norwood Twice

This feat has not been acheived since that great premiership year. Is it an omen for Saturday?
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Let that be a lesson to you Sturt. You don't beat Glenelg 3 times in a row in Grand Finals and get away with it.
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby JK » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:09 pm

Beat Norwood 3 times this year mate
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:41 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Beat Norwood 3 times this year mate


Actually, he's right. They defeated us twice, and absolutely creamed us in the third game :)
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:45 pm

Glenelg is in the big four?? I thought your number of premierships would have to be in double digits before you were considered a member of the "big four". :wink:
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby spell_check » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:48 pm

Although in 1973 Glenelg did not lose to anyone who missed out on the five.
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:54 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Beat Norwood 3 times this year mate


Sorry Constance I admit I made a mistake. #-o #-o #-o This type of thing doesn't happen too often a clean sweep.

Leaping Lindner,
The Big Four refers to the 4 biggest crowd pullers of the 70 & 80's and finals appearances if you check the records.
The final four positions at the end of the minor round in 74,75,76,78,80 & 82 were held byGlenelg, Sturt, Norwood & Port Adelaide.
Between 1973 & 1986 only those four clubs won a premiership except for West Adelaide in 1983
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Wedgie » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:01 pm

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Beat Norwood 3 times this year mate


Sorry Constance I admit I made a mistake. #-o #-o #-o This type of thing doesn't happen too often a clean sweep.

Leaping Lindner,
The Big Four refers to the 4 biggest crowd pullers of the 70 & 80's and finals appearances if you check the records.
The final four positions at the end of the minor round in 74,75,76,78,80 & 82 were held byGlenelg, Sturt, Norwood & Port Adelaide.
Between 1973 & 1986 only those four clubs won a premiership except for West Adelaide in 1983


Does that mean we can also lay claim to a Big 8, which covers the years 2000-2006 and includes every team but Glenelg?
I'll remember that one! :lol:
Picking years, teams and various results at random is fun! :D

I thought the Big4 referred to a chain of caravan parks? :?
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Ian » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:11 pm

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Between 1973 & 1986 only those four clubs won a premiership except for West Adelaide in 1983


So you've picked a 14 year period out of your clubs 81 year history to determine that the Bays belong in the "BIG 4", how many flags have you won in the other 67 years of your magnificent :roll: history?

what do I hear?.........................................................1


:lol: :lol: :lol:

81 years for 4 flags


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Big 4, FFS you've got to be kidding
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby spell_check » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:20 pm

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Beat Norwood 3 times this year mate


Sorry Constance I admit I made a mistake. #-o #-o #-o This type of thing doesn't happen too often a clean sweep.

Leaping Lindner,
The Big Four refers to the 4 biggest crowd pullers of the 70 & 80's and finals appearances if you check the records.
The final four positions at the end of the minor round in 74,75,76,78,80 & 82 were held byGlenelg, Sturt, Norwood & Port Adelaide.
Between 1973 & 1986 only those four clubs won a premiership except for West Adelaide in 1983


A more relevant question would be to ask in this decade how many times have Glenelg made a clean sweep against the "Big 1" - Central District.
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby spell_check » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:31 pm

In fact, there has only been two teams since 2000 to have an undefeated record against Central in a season.
Norwood in 2002 and Port in 2003 had a 2-0 record against the Dogs.
In addition, the Eagles have been the only team since 2000 to have defeated Central three times in a season - 2006. Also, they are the only team other than Norwood and Port to have had a perfect minor round against Central - 2004 and 2006.
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Pseudo » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:06 pm

Some excerpts from an article in The News, September 1991:

The big four is no more
[...]
The unthinkable has happened in the biggest football shake-up SA has ever seen or imagined. The big four is no more.
Port, Norwood, Glenelg and Sturt have all failed to finish in the top four for the first time in SA football history.
[...]
But to imagine that all four glamour clubs of the 1960s, '70s and '80s would be crippled as one is, well, good for football, they say.


So the criterion for being part of the "big four" was not permierships won, other success or level of support, but rather glamour during the '70s and surrounding decades. Glenelg apparently was deserving of the appellation. Sorry Ian, I guess your Roosters just weren't glamorous enough :lol:
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Ian » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:09 pm

Pseudo wrote: Sorry Ian, I guess your Roosters just weren't glamorous enough :lol:


I'll take 13 flags and a Champions of Australia over glamour any day
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Pseudo » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:21 pm

Ian wrote:
Pseudo wrote: Sorry Ian, I guess your Roosters just weren't glamorous enough :lol:


I'll take 13 flags and a Champions of Australia over glamour any day


North Adelaide: the best-performed club in the little six :lol:
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:34 am

Pseudo wrote:Some excerpts from an article in The News, September 1991:

The big four is no more
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The unthinkable has happened in the biggest football shake-up SA has ever seen or imagined. The big four is no more.
Port, Norwood, Glenelg and Sturt have all failed to finish in the top four for the first time in SA football history.
[...]
But to imagine that all four glamour clubs of the 1960s, '70s and '80s would be crippled as one is, well, good for football, they say.


So the criterion for being part of the "big four" was not permierships won, other success or level of support, but rather glamour during the '70s and surrounding decades. Glenelg apparently was deserving of the appellation. Sorry Ian, I guess your Roosters just weren't glamorous enough :lol:


I'm not sure how the "Big 4" concept originated, but for a period of time the SANFL was dominated by those clubs. I always thought it a little pretentious and meant nothing to me as a Norwood supporter, but at least our "Big 4" were actually enjoying success at the time, not like the so-called AFL "Big 4" (Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, Richmond) which just totally mystifies me when other clubs have been more successful both on and off the field for long periods of time.
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:38 am

spell_check wrote:In fact, there has only been two teams since 2000 to have an undefeated record against Central in a season.
Norwood in 2002


That was an amazing season where Central had no answer to Norwood, Norwood had no answer to Sturt, and Sturt couldn't handle Central District ... until Grand Final day :)
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Ecky » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:38 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I'm not sure how the "Big 4" concept originated, but for a period of time the SANFL was dominated by those clubs. I always thought it a little pretentious and meant nothing to me as a Norwood supporter, but at least our "Big 4" were actually enjoying success at the time, not like the so-called AFL "Big 4" (Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, Richmond) which just totally mystifies me when other clubs have been more successful both on and off the field for long periods of time.

The big 4 concept made sense (in both the SANFL and VFL) if you use the criteria of attendance through the 1970s and 1980s. The SANFL added weight to the idea by programming the big 4 to always play each other 3 times during the minor round most years in this period.
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby am Bays » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:47 pm

Ecky wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:I'm not sure how the "Big 4" concept originated, but for a period of time the SANFL was dominated by those clubs. I always thought it a little pretentious and meant nothing to me as a Norwood supporter, but at least our "Big 4" were actually enjoying success at the time, not like the so-called AFL "Big 4" (Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton, Richmond) which just totally mystifies me when other clubs have been more successful both on and off the field for long periods of time.

The big 4 concept made sense (in both the SANFL and VFL) if you use the criteria of attendance through the 1970s and 1980s. The SANFL added weight to the idea by programming the big 4 to always play each other 3 times during the minor round most years in this period.


And invariably in the same round...
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby am Bays » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:49 pm

Ian wrote:
FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Between 1973 & 1986 only those four clubs won a premiership except for West Adelaide in 1983


So you've picked a 14 year period out of your clubs 81 year history to determine that the Bays belong in the "BIG 4", how many flags have you won in the other 67 years of your magnificent :roll: history?

what do I hear?.........................................................1


:lol: :lol: :lol:

81 years for 4 flags


:lol:


Big 4, FFS you've got to be kidding


Don't worry Ian I recall reading Dick Jone's, that footballing guru's tomes, in The Football Times in 1990 where he referred to North as one of the big 4 supplanting Sturt....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby Wedgie » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:43 pm

Don't worry Ian, glamour was the only criteria and to be glamourous you have to wear a dress, one might even say that is gay.
And we all remember what George Costanza did over a Glamour magazine.
North, the best of the non glamorous clubs, and the best of the real footy clubs, and thank christ for that! :wink:
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Re: Clean Sweep

Postby 71/72 » Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:38 pm

You are kidding yourself 4th Estate with this BIG 4 crap.
Yes the Bays played in the finals in 74,75,76,77,78,80 & 82.
The other 3 won flags guess who didn't!
I think the Big 4 you are refering to is the number of premierships Glenelg have won.
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