HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Bat Pad]

Apparently after Uraidla's quick exit out of the finals this year, recruiting has begun all ready with some big names set to return to the hills league?? any of the uri clan to confirm??

Im guessing that Uraidla will have a few points freed up next year with all the recruits losing a point. But will points still be an issue for them like i heard it was this year? Are they going to be locals IC?

[Iron Chef]

NO definatly not locals, have had previous sanfl experience though, so they might come with some points hanging on their head! one of the recruits is a proven goal kicker and is fairly young too from what I have heard!

[Bat Pad]

NO definatly not locals, have had previous sanfl experience though, so they might come with some points hanging on their head! one of the recruits is a proven goal kicker and is fairly young too from what I have heard!

What about Matt Thomas? Is he one of them? im guessing he would only be one point if he played.

[Iron Chef]

Your around the mark, I dont want to say too much but ive heard a few things floating, just wanting to see if there is some truth to my source. Sutherland ready to rectify this year im told with a mass influx of new players.

[BALLHOG]

Are uraidla going to maintain their coach from this year? Have heard people aren't to happy out at the cabbage.

[Bat Pad]

Your around the mark, I dont want to say too much but ive heard a few things floating, just wanting to see if there is some truth to my source. Sutherland ready to rectify this year im told with a mass influx of new players.

With a strong senior colts side why not give some of them a crack next year and bulid a side that will be strong for years as opposed to getting ring ins for a one year crack. I mean thats just my opinion but you could say Uraidla have wasted some money the last two years. If your going to pay a majority of your players you want to take it out. Also expect another former Uraidla local to return after a couple of years away next season. But i doubt he'll be asking for cash

[Tex]

Your around the mark, I dont want to say too much but ive heard a few things floating, just wanting to see if there is some truth to my source. Sutherland ready to rectify this year im told with a mass influx of new players.

With a strong senior colts side why not give some of them a crack next year and bulid a side that will be strong for years as opposed to getting ring ins for a one year crack. I mean thats just my opinion but you could say Uraidla have wasted some money the last two years. If your going to pay a majority of your players you want to take it out. Also expect another former Uraidla local to return after a couple of years away next season. But i doubt he'll be asking for cash

Ryan Hunter i'm guessing!!!

[Dashin]

Not much has been said about the A-grade game yesterday, who were the stand-outs? Are Hahndorf a chance against Blackwood? Good they potentially go all the way? I suspect not but we'll soon find out.

So is the GF definately at Lobethal? In my mind it's the best location for the hills grand final. The hill on the top side becomes a grand stand with great views of the game. Fingers crossed it's a nice day, there'll be plenty of talent out of it is!!

[2words]

BP, he wasnt referring to the player last week. he was referring to a player that hasnt made the A grade side this week and therefore cant play in the B's either... but he would be able to play B's if we were both playing on the same day.

Thats a joke. Where is the logic in that?

The only reason I can think off is that you are trying to keep both teams alive; ie "stack" the B grade beacause if the A grade lose, they have the double chance. Of course, for this scenario, you would have to assume that an automatic berth to the A Grade grand final is not worth as much as a B grade prelim! Ludicrous!!Don't think it is Owen this time, pretty sure he has distanced himself from these situations. Some other guy (Sickerdick) making these calls.
Have spoken to the SANFL about it, the Hills league is the only one that interprets the rules this way, in every other league(and every other year in the Hills) as long as both teams are playing on the same weekend, any player can play anywhere.

That's the only reason I can think of too. Who would seriously do that though? If that's what the rule is there for, then it really is a joke.

The only solution I can see is to have both sides of the draw on the first 2 weeks of the finals played on the same day at different venues. It's totally imprcatical and will never happen, but if it did, the player in question could play this week.

Under SANFL rules he would be allwed to play. Why do the HFL think they are above everyone else making stupid judgements like this.

Very contradicting to see that Ben Badenoch and Jason Pope from backwood were playing B grade on saturday. Both these players have played less B grade games than A. Cooper, but were able to play because there A's were playing on the same day. Think the HFL should have a long hard look at them selves.

[dangermouse]

Wow I bet the Uraidla local players are pumped for pre-season already!

[dangermouse]

Why couldn't the rule simply be- if a club has their A's and B's alive in the finals and are playing on the same weekend, any player can play any grade regardless of how many A's or B's games they have played, and each player can only play one game per weekend. As soon as the club in question's A grade are eliminated, only players that have played enough minor round b grade games (whatever number that may be) are available for selection from there on in. This would geatly reduce the workload for the HFL as they would not have to deal with countless permit requests in the week before a game, and it also means that clubs could field their two best possible sides in finals which they should have a right to do. This post may echo posts by previous contibutors on this forum, if that is the case it is because this solution to me seems so obvious and simple. If there is anyone associated with the HFL admin that views this forum could you please explain why the rule is the way it is. I could never see the day when a club would stack their B grade with A graders to win a B grade final and risk losing an A grade final, it would never happen.

[Dashin]

I agree with you Dangermouse completely. But is anything discussed on this forum being voiced to the HFL?

I heard the rule was brought in last year to stop Blackwood last year dropping players from there A grade Country div side into their Central div B Grade side, not exactly sure how that works. But surely, if that were the case, now that there are no clubs with sides in both central and country divs, you'd throw the rule out.

[Saint]

Rumor is that a certain Retiring Adelaide Crow Might be seen out at Uraidla next year due to his long term freindship with Darren Loffler

[BALL BANGER]

Again seems nothing eventuated from the Raiders Crisis meeting, just more HOT AIR Blown around the place. Out going committee members who aren't standing next year making decisions on how the club will run & where it will end up next year. If it comes down to a vote again on Country or Central, lets hope it's not the circus it was a few years back. People were voting who weren't financial members and correct me if I'm wrong but Junior members were also voting on the decision. If you checked the constitution I think you may find that junior votes don't count ( could be wrong ) All I'm saying is you better have you books correct on financial memebers before you do your head count.

[BALL BANGER]

Nothing wrong with Bridgey staying in Shanty Town, it's got nothing to do with the Oval. Sure it's small and tight but visiting sides don't seem to have a problem kicking big scores there. I remember when it was a massive advantage playing at Bridgey Oval in the Early 90's and it was always hard beating Bridgey @ Bridgey. Country Div best option....If it's quality players they think they won't be able to attract then that's Crap! look at the quality in Country Div at the moment. James, Pearce, Sitters, Slattery, Carter, Jenner, Wakefield should I go on. I'd like to see the best players in Central take on Country.
Anyone care to name the 2 sides and how they'd line-up? Would be interesting

[The_Special_One]

2 words have to agree what happened saturday was interesting... obviously blackwood was not looking to win the b's and tank the a's... however Badenoch played an influential part in the bgrade victory and so did jason Pope... I also heard that one of their midfielders played association A's last year and a couple others played many more a's than b's...

Understand that two sides are picked on training, injuries etc, but i still believe that a player should have to play majority of games or apply for a permit regardless... Permits should be assured for all local players but paid players should have to prove extenuating circumstances... Badenoch is a quality footballer and would be in any A grade in the comps top 3... to see him almost single handedly decide the fate of the b grade comp is unfortunate...

[Howard]

Again seems nothing eventuated from the Raiders Crisis meeting, just more HOT AIR Blown around the place. Out going committee members who aren't standing next year making decisions on how the club will run & where it will end up next year. If it comes down to a vote again on Country or Central, lets hope it's not the circus it was a few years back. People were voting who weren't financial members and correct me if I'm wrong but Junior members were also voting on the decision. If you checked the constitution I think you may find that junior votes don't count ( could be wrong ) All I'm saying is you better have you books correct on financial memebers before you do your head count.

If you were at this meeting you'd realise that the outgoing committee is not determining the direction the club should go, it was more laying out all the options to give the 'members' the opportunity to go away and try and sort out where they fit, get off their collective butts and as John Kennedy (Hawthorn coach) would say "DO SOMETHING"

It (the final decision) will be up to their 'members'.

[The_Special_One]

Ball banger your living up to your name aren't ya!!!

There is no way the best country team would get within 15 goals of the central team... I have played both and there is a massive gap!!! You could pick your best possible country team and I reckon the top 3 sides in central would crap all over them!!!

[tedbullpit]

Are uraidla going to maintain their coach from this year? Have heard people aren't to happy out at the cabbage.

Ballhog to answer your question about people not being happy I think it's more a case of people being disappointed. The club is as happy a place as it has ever been. There is a stong sense of underachievement around the traps as several posters have highlighted in this forum in the past week. There were 6 first choice players missing in the elimination final having all suffered season ending injuries over the course of the season which didnt help. Of these 3 or 4 may not play again. From what I've heard Sutherland will be at the helm next year.

As Ryan Hunter has been telling everyone in the front bar of the Uri for the last 6 months he is coming back to Uraidla next season to apparently play B grade! Doesn't want to play A's because he would have to train twice a week.

I highly doubt Matt Thomas would be back. I'd say if he did return that at least a dozen blokes would walk out the door.

All the talk about potential recruits going to Uraidla would be nothing more than pissed talk at this stage. You'd think if Uri's are going to be a serious contender next year though that they need at least a couple of key position players to top things up.

Lastly there are high hopes for the senior colts coming through. 4 of the current crop played A grade footy this season and 3 of these are actually considered by the coaching staff in the best 22 A grade players at the club and were expected to play the duration in the A grade this season. However these boys made the decision to play with their mates in the senior colts who are a very good chance of winning the premiership this season which you can understand but at the same time is a bit disappointing. I'd expect these guys to try their luck down at Sturt during the summer months so they may not even pull on a Uraidla jumper in 2009.

[devilsadvocate]

Why couldn't the rule simply be- if a club has their A's and B's alive in the finals and are playing on the same weekend, any player can play any grade regardless of how many A's or B's games they have played, and each player can only play one game per weekend. As soon as the club in question's A grade are eliminated, only players that have played enough minor round b grade games (whatever number that may be) are available for selection from there on in. This would geatly reduce the workload for the HFL as they would not have to deal with countless permit requests in the week before a game, and it also means that clubs could field their two best possible sides in finals which they should have a right to do. This post may echo posts by previous contibutors on this forum, if that is the case it is because this solution to me seems so obvious and simple. If there is anyone associated with the HFL admin that views this forum could you please explain why the rule is the way it is. I could never see the day when a club would stack their B grade with A graders to win a B grade final and risk losing an A grade final, it would never happen.

EXACTLY, but that would be commen sense, so there's no way that would ever be the case, because that would make too much sense.