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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Sponge Bob » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:03 pm

Etani Modi wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:
Bubbula wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:Doesn't seem like garbage now.

How are we self-destructing.. lol..quote]

In fighting.

Watch what happens to Ovingham once this season is over. Have heard bad things about what happened at Gepps. What will happen to that club when the gypsies disappear? How will they get enough players to fill a team?


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Big Shrek! What did you hear happened at Gepps?? Wonder if its the same story that I have heard as I have heard many variations this one is the most common:



I have heard that one of players was selected on the Thursday training, was named on the bench after being in best players the prior week. Was frustrated and made a comment to himself that was overheard and then told to the coach.

The player had a phone call at 8.30am Saturday morning of the Henley game and was told no longer requried to play for the club as they are just too much of a handful and that no coaching staff or players wanted this player at the club anymore.

Can anyone confirm this story?

If this is the case my opinion is that its pretty sad a club person is asked to leave over something like that why not get dropped to the B grade to start with and have a speaking to then if things dont improve ask to leave. I cant see how anything bad was done in this instance.

Club people are hard to come by I think an issue like this could have been resolved in a much better way

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EM, Shrek is talking about a completely different situation than you are, nothing about what happened the other Sat.

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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Scorpion » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:05 pm

Etani Modi wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:
Bubbula wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:Doesn't seem like garbage now.

How are we self-destructing.. lol..quote]

In fighting.

Watch what happens to Ovingham once this season is over. Have heard bad things about what happened at Gepps. What will happen to that club when the gypsies disappear? How will they get enough players to fill a team?


Im a Long Time Reader First Time Poster

Big Shrek! What did you hear happened at Gepps?? Wonder if its the same story that I have heard as I have heard many variations this one is the most common:

I have heard that one of players was selected on the Thursday training, was named on the bench after being in best players the prior week. Was frustrated and made a comment to himself that was overheard and then told to the coach.

The player had a phone call at 8.30am Saturday morning of the Henley game and was told no longer requried to play for the club as they are just too much of a handful and that no coaching staff or players wanted this player at the club anymore.

Can anyone confirm this story?

If this is the case my opinion is that its pretty sad a club person is asked to leave over something like that why not get dropped to the B grade to start with and have a speaking to then if things dont improve ask to leave. I cant see how anything bad was done in this instance.

Club people are hard to come by I think an issue like this could have been resolved in a much better way

Thoughts??

Dominator - like yourself a bit?
I agree club people are hard to come by - but scratch the surface on some of those 'club' people and you find the truth that they are really only there for themselves and are only 'club' people when not challenged and allowed to do what they like.
Is it the coaches call who plays and who doesn't? Should be, but you find at some clubs the committee weigh far to much into this when they should be backing the coaches decision as final.
There are many ways to handle these things - arrogant repeat offenders destroy clubs and a stand needs to be taken.
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Suavo » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:38 pm

Since bubbula has made this a public issue id like to have my say.As a current Ovingham player im disappointed at the way a couple of players have been treated.Claims of one player abusing his team mates are way over the top.I played in the first final against PHOS,and I think the guy had every right to get stuck into a couple of our defenders.And it wasnt as if he called them every name under the sun.He let them know that they werent doing their job,which is fair enough.Personally I cant believe our coach didnt send the runner out and drag 1 or 2 players before it got to that.And what happened before round 4 was a joke.1 of our players was stuffing around on the track and Barry told him to get his ******* act together.I cant see the problem with that.You play how you train and I think our training this year has been poor so we havent got the results that we should have.The player in question told the coach and made a big deal out of it,and barry was accussed of abusing his team mates.Part of the trouble at our club is that the coach is also the president,and he calls all the shots.I think he sometimes forgets that were in C2.
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby The Big Shrek » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:46 pm

Where is that 'Ovies to self-destruct' thread.

Sounds like there should be a Chris Newman Football Club in C2, so these other poor clubs don't have to put up with him and his gypsies.
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby hawkseye » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:31 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Where is that 'Ovies to self-destruct' thread.

Sounds like there should be a Chris Newman Football Club in C2, so these other poor clubs don't have to put up with him and his gypsies.

Agreed Shrek. This has SELF DESTRUCT written all over it. I fear for the club they travel to next.
Thats what im talkin aboooouuuut!!!!!!
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby old moz » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:11 pm

i can imagine the phone calls to panther park tomorrow at about 12-30. Rupert should be out of hibernation by now and heading down the Himalaya's on the back of a yak , munching on Jeff's footlong hotdog, with Beryl giving a revival rub, heading for the nearest internet cafe to get the latest news. which way will it go???
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Scorpion » Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:05 pm

Suavo wrote:Since bubbula has made this a public issue id like to have my say.As a current Ovingham player im disappointed at the way a couple of players have been treated.Claims of one player abusing his team mates are way over the top.I played in the first final against PHOS,and I think the guy had every right to get stuck into a couple of our defenders.And it wasnt as if he called them every name under the sun.He let them know that they werent doing their job,which is fair enough.Personally I cant believe our coach didnt send the runner out and drag 1 or 2 players before it got to that.And what happened before round 4 was a joke.1 of our players was stuffing around on the track and Barry told him to get his ******* act together.I cant see the problem with that.You play how you train and I think our training this year has been poor so we havent got the results that we should have.The player in question told the coach and made a big deal out of it,and barry was accussed of abusing his team mates.Part of the trouble at our club is that the coach is also the president,and he calls all the shots.I think he sometimes forgets that were in C2.He sets a lot of club rules which is fine,but the problem is that he punishes some players and not others.For example,hes said a few times that anyone whos not at training wont get a game that week,but they still get a game.And he said the other week that anyone who didnt come back to the club after the game wouldnt be selected the next week,but about 5 guys who never came back still played the next week.3 players who were chosen for last weeks game against Uni didnt deserve a spot but got picked but a guy like justin whos a good honest trier,and turns up week in week out doesnt get a game.And the worst thing is that our coach bags the crap out of him behind his back.Ive been around long enough and played at enough decent clubs to know thats not right.Guys like justin are just as important to a footy club as the top players,but chris doesnt see it that way.And on top of that the team selected for this week has only 3 or 4 players from last years ovingham grand final team.The rest have left because chris wont pick them.Barry gives his all and if we had a few more like him we would be a lot better off.Locky was the other guy banned for 3 months.He has'nt had his best year but lives and breaths the Ovingham football club and its a shame hes been treated so poorly.We've got alot of good players at the club and i know for sure that some of them wont be back next year,including me.The club just hasnt got any class at all.I feel like i should stick up for barry and locky but if i did my season would be over so im doing it on here.Ive worked to hard to miss out on a possible grand final but i wanted people to know the real story.

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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Bubbula » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:16 pm

Suavo wrote:Since bubbula has made this a public issue id like to have my say.As a current Ovingham player im disappointed at the way a couple of players have been treated.Claims of one player abusing his team mates are way over the top.I played in the first final against PHOS,and I think the guy had every right to get stuck into a couple of our defenders.And it wasnt as if he called them every name under the sun.He let them know that they werent doing their job,which is fair enough.Personally I cant believe our coach didnt send the runner out and drag 1 or 2 players before it got to that.And what happened before round 4 was a joke.1 of our players was stuffing around on the track and Barry told him to get his ******* act together.I cant see the problem with that.You play how you train and I think our training this year has been poor so we havent got the results that we should have.The player in question told the coach and made a big deal out of it,and barry was accussed of abusing his team mates.Part of the trouble at our club is that the coach is also the president,and he calls all the shots.I think he sometimes forgets that were in C2.

I would have to question wether you were actually in defence that day to hear everything that was being said? Did you play vs PHOS on the weekend just gone? If you think how he was carrying on that day was exceptable you have very low standards when it comes to what you would like out of your team mates..
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Bubbula » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:23 pm

Scorpion wrote:
Suavo wrote:Since bubbula has made this a public issue id like to have my say.As a current Ovingham player im disappointed at the way a couple of players have been treated.Claims of one player abusing his team mates are way over the top.I played in the first final against PHOS,and I think the guy had every right to get stuck into a couple of our defenders.And it wasnt as if he called them every name under the sun.He let them know that they werent doing their job,which is fair enough.Personally I cant believe our coach didnt send the runner out and drag 1 or 2 players before it got to that.And what happened before round 4 was a joke.1 of our players was stuffing around on the track and Barry told him to get his ******* act together.I cant see the problem with that.You play how you train and I think our training this year has been poor so we havent got the results that we should have.The player in question told the coach and made a big deal out of it,and barry was accussed of abusing his team mates.Part of the trouble at our club is that the coach is also the president,and he calls all the shots.I think he sometimes forgets that were in C2.He sets a lot of club rules which is fine,but the problem is that he punishes some players and not others.For example,hes said a few times that anyone whos not at training wont get a game that week,but they still get a game.And he said the other week that anyone who didnt come back to the club after the game wouldnt be selected the next week,but about 5 guys who never came back still played the next week.3 players who were chosen for last weeks game against Uni didnt deserve a spot but got picked but a guy like justin whos a good honest trier,and turns up week in week out doesnt get a game.And the worst thing is that our coach bags the crap out of him behind his back.Ive been around long enough and played at enough decent clubs to know thats not right.Guys like justin are just as important to a footy club as the top players,but chris doesnt see it that way.And on top of that the team selected for this week has only 3 or 4 players from last years ovingham grand final team.The rest have left because chris wont pick them.Barry gives his all and if we had a few more like him we would be a lot better off.Locky was the other guy banned for 3 months.He has'nt had his best year but lives and breaths the Ovingham football club and its a shame hes been treated so poorly.We've got alot of good players at the club and i know for sure that some of them wont be back next year,including me.The club just hasnt got any class at all.I feel like i should stick up for barry and locky but if i did my season would be over so im doing it on here.Ive worked to hard to miss out on a possible grand final but i wanted people to know the real story.

=D> =D>

I dont want to cause a storm in a tea-cup here being a team mate of yours but Chris selects his best side every week and for you to suggest that all the ovies players from last years GF would make the best team this year is fruitless. Have you taken into account how many 'premiership' players he brought back to the club. Just because you play in a GF one year doesnt always mean you'll be there the next..
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby mighty hounds » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:28 pm

Keepitreal wrote:
zedman wrote:can they wave a magic wand and make the ground bigger..cant play div 5 on that..or any grade higher..bos would never do it imo..


Wasn't the rumor that BFOS were moving to a oval near Aquatics centre? :shock:


we play next to the aquatics centre :? and i'm 100% sure that we wouldnt merge, club ahs worked to hard to go and merge, just dont see it happening.

p.s. quichey fried ovaries :lol:
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Bubbula » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:02 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Where is that 'Ovies to self-destruct' thread.

Sounds like there should be a Chris Newman Football Club in C2, so these other poor clubs don't have to put up with him and his gypsies.

Your biting off more then you can chew champ..
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:03 pm

Bubbula wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:Where is that 'Ovies to self-destruct' thread.

Sounds like there should be a Chris Newman Football Club in C2, so these other poor clubs don't have to put up with him and his gypsies.

Your biting off more then you can chew champ..


Ha ha, what's that meant to mean?
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Bubbula » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:08 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:
Bubbula wrote:
The Big Shrek wrote:Where is that 'Ovies to self-destruct' thread.

Sounds like there should be a Chris Newman Football Club in C2, so these other poor clubs don't have to put up with him and his gypsies.

Your biting off more then you can chew champ..


Ha ha, what's that meant to mean?

That means you have a big mouth... You dont know any of us and your being a big mouth..
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:20 pm

You're right, I'm making judgements based on what I read here. You guys give us plenty of ammo. What will happen to Ovies next year? Are you interested in playing for the club or the man?
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Bubbula » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:21 pm

Suavo wrote:Since bubbula has made this a public issue id like to have my say.As a current Ovingham player im disappointed at the way a couple of players have been treated.Claims of one player abusing his team mates are way over the top.I played in the first final against PHOS,and I think the guy had every right to get stuck into a couple of our defenders.And it wasnt as if he called them every name under the sun.He let them know that they werent doing their job,which is fair enough.Personally I cant believe our coach didnt send the runner out and drag 1 or 2 players before it got to that.And what happened before round 4 was a joke.1 of our players was stuffing around on the track and Barry told him to get his ******* act together.I cant see the problem with that.You play how you train and I think our training this year has been poor so we havent got the results that we should have.The player in question told the coach and made a big deal out of it,and barry was accussed of abusing his team mates.Part of the trouble at our club is that the coach is also the president,and he calls all the shots.I think he sometimes forgets that were in C2.

And why cant the coach be the president exactly? Chris does a hell of alot for that club. More then many would understand!! Locky stood down as president and Chris felt he could do what was in the best interest of the club being president. And it isnt easy finding someone to fully commit to a struggling club as president anyway. Chris is doing a great job.
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Bubbula » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:23 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:You're right, I'm making judgements based on what I read here. You guys give us plenty of ammo. What will happen to Ovies next year? Are you interested in playing for the club or the man?

Ovies will still be down on Chruchill road.. To your last question.. Both..
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:25 pm

Big mouth, ha ha. I do have a big mouth but that's rich coming from you.
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Bubbula » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:28 pm

The Big Shrek wrote:Big mouth, ha ha. I do have a big mouth but that's rich coming from you.

How am I a big mouth. I walk the talk my firend. I fly the flag for my club and my mates!! You go trolling on threads and stirring the pot not knowing beyond what you say..
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby Sponge Bob » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:30 pm

Bubbula wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
Suavo wrote:Since bubbula has made this a public issue id like to have my say.As a current Ovingham player im disappointed at the way a couple of players have been treated.Claims of one player abusing his team mates are way over the top.I played in the first final against PHOS,and I think the guy had every right to get stuck into a couple of our defenders.And it wasnt as if he called them every name under the sun.He let them know that they werent doing their job,which is fair enough.Personally I cant believe our coach didnt send the runner out and drag 1 or 2 players before it got to that.And what happened before round 4 was a joke.1 of our players was stuffing around on the track and Barry told him to get his ******* act together.I cant see the problem with that.You play how you train and I think our training this year has been poor so we havent got the results that we should have.The player in question told the coach and made a big deal out of it,and barry was accussed of abusing his team mates.Part of the trouble at our club is that the coach is also the president,and he calls all the shots.I think he sometimes forgets that were in C2.He sets a lot of club rules which is fine,but the problem is that he punishes some players and not others.For example,hes said a few times that anyone whos not at training wont get a game that week,but they still get a game.And he said the other week that anyone who didnt come back to the club after the game wouldnt be selected the next week,but about 5 guys who never came back still played the next week.3 players who were chosen for last weeks game against Uni didnt deserve a spot but got picked but a guy like justin whos a good honest trier,and turns up week in week out doesnt get a game.And the worst thing is that our coach bags
the crap out of him behind his back.Ive been around long enough and played at enough decent clubs to know thats not right.Guys like justin are just as important to a footy club as the top players,but chris doesnt see it that way.And on top of that the team selected for this week has only 3 or 4 players from last years ovingham grand final team.The rest have left because chris wont pick them.Barry gives his all and if we had a few more like him we would be a lot better off.Locky was the other guy banned for 3 months.He has'nt had his best year but lives and breaths the Ovingham football club and its a shame hes been treated so poorly.We've got alot of good players at the club and i know for sure that some of them wont be back next year,including me.The club just hasnt got any class at all.I feel like i should stick up for barry and locky but if i did my season would be over so im doing it on here.Ive worked to hard to miss out on a possible grand final but i wanted people to know the real story.

=D> =D>

I dont want to cause a storm in a tea-cup here being a team mate of yours but Chris selects his best side every week and for you to suggest that all the ovies players from last years GF would make the best team this year is fruitless. Have you taken into account how many 'premiership' players he brought back to the club. Just because you play in a GF one year doesnt always mean you'll be there the next..


Oh my goodness, I'm just going to have to forward this on to Rupert as a matter of urgency, he'll be claiming how good he has become and probably will change his name, maybe to "The Prophet of Doom"

Isn't it quite ironic how cream rises to the top but in this case the cream is sour, anyhow, another year, another club in tatters. what more can you say except for ' Rupert said it would happen,self destruct that is"!
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Re: Selection Dilemma

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:31 pm

I'd better be quiet before you hit me! I' don't know if C2 is a walk or more of a hobble.
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