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[151]

Blockie
Didnt see the incident
Interested in your comment about Angaston though
Was you at the Tanunda v Barossa game last year at Tanunda oval ????????
Wonder what your observations are on that day, when your supporters ( men and woman ) were an absolute disgrace
The language was disgusting, then all your supporters lined up at the gate at half time, and Barossa had to use another " escape route " to get off and again and at the end of the match.

Look forward to the finals this year, and watch Tanunda buckle under the pressure on and off the ground
Like they did that day and in last years prelim
.
so whatever the incident was, i wouldnt start saying things about Angaston, what i have seen from them over the years Tanunda have a lot of catching up to do, to get to their creditability as a club

[bulldogs]

how has dasher gone as the willaston coach?????

That's what most ppl are expecting, I heard tonight that Shaun Baker has quit the club for good

? was how is the coach going.

[Back Pocket_19]

I think Dasher is struggling to deal with all the ego's in that squad bulldog, hence the recent departure of their captain after a loss to the Lions that pretty well squashed any realistic chance of september success..

[blockie]

Blockie
Didnt see the incident
Interested in your comment about Angaston though
Was you at the Tanunda v Barossa game last year at Tanunda oval ????????
Wonder what your observations are on that day, when your supporters ( men and woman ) were an absolute disgrace
The language was disgusting, then all your supporters lined up at the gate at half time, and Barossa had to use another " escape route " to get off and again and at the end of the match.

Look forward to the finals this year, and watch Tanunda buckle under the pressure on and off the ground
Like they did that day and in last years prelim
.
so whatever the incident was, i wouldnt start saying things about Angaston, what i have seen from them over the years Tanunda have a lot of catching up to do, to get to their creditability as a club

151, yep was at that game it was disgusting behaviour and from memory I think we may have been called before the Assocaition Directors to answer their questions. Some facts to help you make a even judgement, every club in the assocaiton has been notified by the Assocaition and the Tanunda Footy Club that the away team enters and exits through the second gate, or "the escape route" as you called it. This was done to alleviate this type of situation occuring, sometime in the heat of battle clubs "forget" and try and escape through the Tanunda Crowd. Which if memory serves me correctly was soon after an incident on the field?

However don't throw stones when in glasshouses(that's if you are from Barossa), bay 13 had a whoops a couple weeks ago if we are lead to believe. And Bay 13 throw it our as good as other clubs and I reckon it is great

Agree bring on the finals, if you are good enough to win thats when you get braggin rights not mid wya through the season, hopefully we have learnt.

As for catching up with Angaston, I think if you did a straw pole around the association at the moment you would be quite surprised at who is leading the credibility stakes. You said you weren't at this game, were you at the previous three Tanunda V Angaston games?

[151]

Seeing they probably want make the four, i would've thought pressure was on him
And as what has been rumoured here, he may not be there next year

[skipper]

Anyone on this forum surprised that Baker has left? the writing was on the wall after the Kapunda game. 151 I think you are being a little hard on the Blockies, their crowd can get a little active but as Blockie said so can Bay 13, hence the trouble that they are currently in. I have been to a few Gawler games when the crowd has also been very involved with the game, the only crowd that is very polite is Kapunda. As far as on field behaviour goes I would rate the Blockies as fairly clean, in fact probably a little too soft, they could have reacted with the fist on Sat but to their credit they just played on. Blockie I heard through the grapevine that some complaints may have been lodged at the league, something that those weak umpires should have done. Harvey's hit on Underwood and Small's hit on Kennedy, both obviously targeted and disgusting hits.

Skip

[151]

Blockie thanks for the reply
One thing i will say is that Bay 13 is always other side of ground at away games, someone had a wee wee and all hell has broken loose, they are characters and are good for the game, pull them in, lay down the law to them and them let them get on with it.
Yes i have feelings for barossa, but i havent seen a game in the BLG for a long time due to work committments
I thought last year Barossa were great the way they kept away from the crowd even with the language and a few cups etc thrown at them, could have been a lot worse
Good luck for the Finals
I look forward to the reports after the game

[skipper]

If the Baker rumour is true which it sounds as though it is and I have no reason to doubt this one, this will pretty much give the Bombers a far greater chance of taking out 4th spot. The Bombers always looked like they where going to make it but this should firm up the odds. I would think Kapunda on a good day would be the only side in the comp to give the top 2 a rattle. Apparently no love lost between Barossa and the Bombers on the weekend either with a bit fisty action. Prouse is looking the goods up there and I would expect that he would be reappointed fairly soon.

Skip

[John Doe]

Anyone on this forum surprised that Baker has left? the writing was on the wall after the Kapunda game. 151 I think you are being a little hard on the Blockies, their crowd can get a little active but as Blockie said so can Bay 13, hence the trouble that they are currently in. I have been to a few Gawler games when the crowd has also been very involved with the game, the only crowd that is very polite is Kapunda. As far as on field behaviour goes I would rate the Blockies as fairly clean, in fact probably a little too soft, they could have reacted with the fist on Sat but to their credit they just played on. Blockie I heard through the grapevine that some complaints may have been lodged at the league, something that those weak umpires should have done. Harvey's hit on Underwood and Small's hit on Kennedy, both obviously targeted and disgusting hits.

Skip

Skip, where were you standing around the ground when the underwood/harvey incident happened? I just wanna try & understand what you saw

[151]

Just heard Les Baker has also quit

[skipper]

JD I was over on the eastern wing, a little towards the southern end sitting in a car by myself. I don't see why it matters JD it makes little difference to the intent and the outcome. I had a pretty good view of the Kennedy hit, I will admit better than the Underwood hit. I also had a very good view of the B grade brawl, which was very ugly with a bit of blockie blood spilt, not a lot of mention about that incident yet, I thought Blockie may have been onto that one as well, perhaps B grade is not as important.

I'm surprised it has taken this long for Les to go with his brother. Pretty good duo if a club could snare them but you would want to make sure you could control both of their ego's. I can't see any BLG clubs getting them you would imagine the Adelaide Plains clubs would already be ringing them, even the Yorke Pen is prone to pay big bucks.

Skip

[John Doe]

JD I was over on the eastern wing, a little towards the southern end sitting in a car by myself. I don't see why it matters JD it makes little difference to the intent and the outcome. I had a pretty good view of the Kennedy hit, I will admit better than the Underwood hit. I also had a very good view of the B grade brawl, which was very ugly with a bit of blockie blood spilt, not a lot of mention about that incident yet, I thought Blockie may have been onto that one as well, perhaps B grade is not as important.

I'm surprised it has taken this long for Les to go with his brother. Pretty good duo if a club could snare them but you would want to make sure you could control both of their ego's. I can't see any BLG clubs getting them you would imagine the Adelaide Plains clubs would already be ringing them, even the Yorke Pen is prone to pay big bucks.

Skip

over 100 metres away, was just curious as to hoe you manage to see intent

[Back Pocket_19]

Really 151??!! It would seem the loss on the weekend was the final straw at willaston for not only players, but officials too. Who is this person who had a go at Shaun Baker? Baker was BOG against South on saturday and although he has an ego, he has been at the donnybrooks since he was very young and loves that club. For him to walk out there must have been some drunk half wit has been hooking in to their schluter medallist pretty badly...

[151]

Yes you are right Back Pocket
Dead set half wit is a good description
It was a very very previous President
Probably got fired up by his half wit mates, because he wouldn't have the brains to do it by himself
These past players, past administrators have ruined that once great footy club
Also let me tell you there is outside the bakers at least another 5 to my knowledge going, ( also ex juniors just like the Bakers) so take them out, and they will struggle for years to come.

[Back Pocket_19]

Let me guess 151, among the other names are the Mclean boys and Norsworthy... Without these players to pick from the donnybrooks would be scraping the barrell and handing out A grade games like an issue of the barracker on the front gate. Wouldn't suprise me if the powers that be at willaston are searching for Ivan 'The Kid' Silvy's number...

[blockie]

at this rate they will have noone left to cook the BBQ's Grand Final Day!

[james07]

we all forget that barossa has an open clearance from willaston for when BD cleared kellet, another one to come back and bite them

[FrancisGilbertHamley]

It was a very very previous President
Probably got fired up by his half wit mates, because he wouldn't have the brains to do it by himself

Initials?

[sunbowler]

Dear Blockie and Skipper,
Someone in a previous post said that I was a passionate Angaston supporter. They obviously have never been at a footy match with me as I try to maintain an objective and unemotional mood, because at the end of the day any contribution I might make needs to be subject to a full analysis. I am always hoping the Blueboys win, however short term gains from short term methods get you nowhere in the long run. Consequently no matter how someone else might view them either in a positive light or negatively anyone from Angaston Football Club who indulged in the sort of behaviour Blockie and Skipper are ascribing to Simon Johnson, Andrew Small, Craig Harvey or anyone else for that matter would not be a part of the Club while I'm there.
You can believe what you like but no Angaston player had instructions to target any Tanunda player with actions outside the rules. They were however told to get numbers around the ball and hold up the Magpie midfield so that they couldn't get the open ball to their leading forwards, in particular Alex Kennedy. If this was achieved then it was felt that if the ball was coming in high forcing the Tanunda Forwards to take contested marks the Angaston defence had a better chance of spoiling and reducing scoring opportunities. Not pretty football I admit but Angaston's only chance to get close considering the talent differential on the park. If Tanunda thought that Angaston would just lay down and let them waltz away we would be showing disrespect to the rest of the competition. Similarly if a player is approaching a hundred goals as in cricket when someone is approaching a century you have a duty of care toward the game to make it as hard as possible. That Alex got hurt is very unfortunate and that he never sustained an actual serious injury is even better. Smally was in a no win situation regarding visiting him in hospital, if he didn't he was a bastard, if he does he's guilty of head hunting. I am wondering if the shoe was on the other foot whether a Magpie player would have bothered. Some I know might have, but I think plenty would not have. The fact he did shows some real guts.
I'm not sure how you watch a game Skip, but you seem only to focus on what you want to. For instance in the Reserves the Angaston player who made contact with his foot wasn't the one sent off and reported. Tanunda have subsequently filed a Club report and the BLG have approved it to go to the Commisioners. In the interim the Club have spoke with the young bloke concerned and we have given him an internal punishment which includes games. Once again in a similar situation I doubt whether Tanunda would have. Our Reserves players felt that some of the more experienced Tanunda players (I won't put their names on the net, but they should know who they are) thought they had carte blanche on the field because they were winning the game and are top of the premiership. When our blokes stood up to some obvious aggression it became ugly. One thing though you might appreciate as an experienced player yourself when a young bloke half the size and age fronted their biggest player toe to toe he retreated. Might isn't always right.
Similarly in the A Grade our players felt that Tanunda were over the top with their physical pressure early in the game and paid particular attention to some of our ball players like Andrew Pech. No complaints from Angaston or the players in that area as you come to expect it. As you would have noticed free kicks early in the game slightly favoured Angaston, which probably backs that up. I am not saying that there were any instructions to maim anyone however as I trust Steve Lubke implicitly in that department. Although you do wonder sometimes when one Tanunda player says "Lets smash these scumbags and get out of this shithole as soon as possible" when running on the ground and then proceeds to lay a head high tackle on Pech in front of the coaches box early and then late in the game gets Matt Doecke on his hands and knees in the scoreboard pocket with bump to the head. Both incidents extremely dangerous and irresponsible. I am not sure how you missed them Skip and why you didn't think they were as dangerous as the ones you have mentioned. Similarly the Tanunda player who threw his elbow at Matt Doecke in the centre of the ground shortly after Alex got hurt was a stupid thing to do. He missed and hopefully it was more gesture than intent, but once again in light of the circumstances, stupid and irresponsible from my tip for the medal.
As they say it takes two to tango.
Skip you also comment on the crowd bagging the Angaston spectators, however in my view a substantial number of the Tanunda supporters acted in a manner I haven't seen since watching football in Alice Springs. 2 or 3 of them at a time including one very prominent Tanunda person, camped directly behind the Angaston coaching group and were issuing threats such as " your dead f***ing meat Johhno" and "we'll see you out the back after c***". When he walked off to the change rooms he was told by another group "we know which car you came in". Also it was an Angaston trainer who was first to Alex and other trainers and officials assisted with his care, yet at the same time Tanunda supporters were booing and abusing them. And speaking of trainers one of the Tanunda trainers manhandled our 70 year old Senior Trainer during the B Grade. There is no excuse for that type of behaviour in any circumstances and its not a good look for Tanunda. The Angaston Football Club will be taking these incidents to the next delegates meeting and I will be interested to see what happens. Even more interesting will be to see Tanunda's reaction. You and Blockie also need to be aware that your hate campaign is no help either.
We all have players and supporters who make us cringe at times and the AFC aren't curly haired little angels, even though I was, but generally as a group we are trying our best for the betterment of the game and the club. I have no hate of Tanunda, in fact I'm related to many of them, including Sven. This should be a milestone year for them and I don't want to see them bugger it up by creating a time bomb in their own ranks, because it could have implications wider than just their club. You probably disagree with my response and I fully acknowledge that just as I am sure you grant me the same right.
Sunbowler

[blockie]

Sunbowler, many of your comments are fair and you raise many points that indeed would be interesting to see if other clubs would follow the path your guys have taken. The Angaston club should be appluded for an internal suspension and I am sure this would be seen in favourable light be league tribunial. I do have an enormous amount of respect for you as a person and indeed journalist.

Small visiting Alex was a great gesture and agree given different circumstances you may well question who would have done the same. The supprter that was issuingadvice in no uncertain terms, I would suggest that you do indeed get in touch with someone at Tanunda, I'm sure you have an email or two. Gino doesn't take lightly to those sort of antics and at the very least I am sure he will speak to them. As to re the trainer. But to throw another black V white or Blue V white into the mix the Angaston supporters in front of th eincident probably also went over the line encouraging the "weak so and so to get up"

It is a great game football and the fact it is two sides in a physical contest will always raise issues from time to time.

This could go around and around, you point has been made and indeed that is your right.

PS can a visitor go to assocation meetings...the next one should be a cracker!