Adelaide Plains Football League

[Moon Unit]

Well done to Opitz on the birth of the little one!!!!! I doubt if his kids will play at united considering they way they have treated him over the years!!! He played there for fourteen years, won numerous medals, coached for one year then gets shafted and no talk of life membership????United have to wake up and realise you can't treat stalwarts of the club like that!!!No wonder they can't keep quality players there!! and stop beeing bridemaids!!!

Wizard, you obviously have nothing to do with either the United FC or Trav Opitz (very interested to know what club you are involved with???). Easy to make assumption about what you think might be happening!! Trav never re-applied for the coaching position after his one year & from my last chat, has withdrawn from A-grade availability due to the birth of his new son & work commitments which make it hard for Trav put in the preparation that he requires off himself. Definate possibility that he will be playing B-grade for the remainder of the season. Agree that he his dissapointed with some of the less commited people in the club as we all are at times but Travs on field passion is rarely matched by other players (as much as we wish it was). Trust me, all players & supporters of United have enormous respect for Trav & what he has done over the years. He has made many lifelong freindships there. He loves the club & the club loves him. He will have clashes with some hierachy as we all do with some of the older generation there but at the end of the day everyone wants the best for the club. As for life membership, don't know what happens at whichever club you're involved with, but as good as Trav's playing record is (& we all acklnowledge it), there is more that can be done off the field before life membership is mentioned. It's early days & Trav will be involved with the club for years to come.

[Swamp Donkey]

Let me just start by saying SWAMP DONKEY you are[color=#800000] < edited by mods. refrain from abusing others on this site. >

Your having a crack at two blokes you don't even know, These two blokes come to Hamley Bridge on the back of the club winning a flag but losing 15 out of 21 premiership players. The Club has had some pretty TOUGH times over the past three years and would have been easy for the Burgess Boys to walk away, but they are still there and aint going anywhere. Super coach as you call him has blooded so many young kids over this period, and because of this they are finally seeing the result come through, H.B's B'grade had a great win yesterday against Mallala, and alot of those B graders have had A grade experience. I think your being a bit too critical of yesterdays performance from Hamley, they had 3 bloke out already from there team and then another 6 blokes pulled out of the selected side between Thursday night and sat morning. If that happens to any side your going to be against it from the start. But i know Hamley are very disapointed with the result but they did get to introduce two more U/17's to Agrade football, and learn from the Best side in the comp. If you remember only a week before that Hamley pushed United right to the end and look at yesterdays results United smashed Hummocks. How quickly people forget. [color=#FF0000]Mallala are a great side, but really its pretty easy to be when you whinge to the association and get given a extra import spot, even though you won the flag the year before. WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lets cover Toughness shall we, Supercoach Burgess playing since 22 or 23 years old on one leg, After being told that he will not play footy again, I really dont Understand what some people see as tough, Is it Big Scary looking guys(one from Balak), who belt ya behind the play, or ones that defy the odds and play for 10 years after being told they'll never play again? You decide!
As for the Blonde Bombshell, yeah he doesn't go [/color]around belting players either but when you see him shirk an issue or back down from any situation then i'll stand corrected. Its pretty easy playing in a winning team, but true character comes out in the tough times, im not sure how much the Burgess boys have to do to show that they don't turn there backs on tough times.
As for the two boys hiding on the bench at the end of yesterdays game, As i said earlier Ben Burgess didn't play last week because of injury and wasn't selected this week but played due to all the late changes, played as much as he physically could, and then come of in the third term in pain(pretty TOUGH in itself really), and as for Brett, you might like to go ask the Mallala goal umpire the reason for him coming off, and i can guarantee you it wasn't to hide.
I reckon get of there backs, they both have nothing to prove to anyone. they have runs on the board. love to know what you have done in football Swamp Donkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ok Mrs Burgess where do we start?
Toughness..... I never said either of them were not tough or that they go around belting players. They are both very skillful players, no doubt, thats not the issue. All i said was that if you want to develop your team you need leaders when times get tough, not hiding on the pine. Isnt that a fair point Scud or were you happy to see them trudge off after half time?
On the extra import, well why not ask? Lets not whip a dead horse, again! All that the assoc had to say was no, and Im sure you have a representitive who is supposed to take your views to the board......... obviously your opinion isnt important to him. By the way every club got to have an extra one as well, Hamly included!!!
I think it great that Hamley are developing young players and are giving them an opportunity. If they can retain these lads over the next 3-4 years and get some quality leaders to the club to help the young blokes out a bit, they have a future to look forward to.

[Moon Unit]

Well done to Opitz on the birth of the little one!!!!! I doubt if his kids will play at united considering they way they have treated him over the years!!! He played there for fourteen years, won numerous medals, coached for one year then gets shafted and no talk of life membership????United have to wake up and realise you can't treat stalwarts of the club like that!!!No wonder they can't keep quality players there!! and stop beeing bridemaids!!!

As for keeping quality players at the club? I think we have a better record for keeping players at our club than most. From recent memory, we haven't lost any players that we didin't want to go anyway!

Opitz, schubert, Mansfield, Sobey, Davey are just e few players that come to mind. All now classed as locals. In the case of the first 3 mentioned, have all played for over 10 seasons. Come on mate, do some research!! You have no idea what you are talking about & just look stupid!!

[Swamp Donkey]

Scud, it is great to have a contingent from HB finally having a crack on here.

I think most people around APFL would consider that United have done better than most in the recruiting dept over a 10 year period. I think thier ability to retain their imports is the bigger issue and one that all clubs should be trying to emulate. The longer you can get blokes to hang around for the more consistency you will become. Recuiting quality players and quality people is a huge advantage in pulling players in the future. I think Trav Opitz's life membership is inevitable. Isnt life membership usually rewarded after your playing days unless you play 300 games?? May be wrong there!
Rooster, watched Eagles 2's yesterday at Unley. Jarred Allmond was 3rd or 4th best and looked pretty impressive, great to see!

[jumbo]

Scud, it is great to have a contingent from HB finally having a crack on here.

yes it is - the boards are getting busy - word must be spreading ....

[Mythical Creature]

Scud, it is great to have a contingent from HB finally having a crack on here.

yes it is - the boards are getting busy - word must be spreading ....

Oh hail Donkey the great man. He has finally managed to crack Hamley and get 2 posters on here! Well done donkey, if only we had all thought of having a crack at the Burgess' earlier in the year to get them on here.

[Mythical Creature]

Well done to Opitz on the birth of the little one!!!!! I doubt if his kids will play at united considering they way they have treated him over the years!!! He played there for fourteen years, won numerous medals, coached for one year then gets shafted and no talk of life membership????United have to wake up and realise you can't treat stalwarts of the club like that!!!No wonder they can't keep quality players there!! and stop beeing bridemaids!!!

Wizard, you obviously have nothing to do with either the United FC or Trav Opitz (very interested to know what club you are involved with???). Easy to make assumption about what you think might be happening!! Trav never re-applied for the coaching position after his one year & from my last chat, has withdrawn from A-grade availability due to the birth of his new son & work commitments which make it hard for Trav put in the preparation that he requires off himself. Definate possibility that he will be playing B-grade for the remainder of the season. Agree that he his dissapointed with some of the less commited people in the club as we all are at times but Travs on field passion is rarely matched by other players (as much as we wish it was). Trust me, all players & supporters of United have enormous respect for Trav & what he has done over the years. He has made many lifelong freindships there. He loves the club & the club loves him. He will have clashes with some hierachy as we all do with some of the older generation there but at the end of the day everyone wants the best for the club. As for life membership, don't know what happens at whichever club you're involved with, but as good as Trav's playing record is (& we all acklnowledge it), there is more that can be done off the field before life membership is mentioned. It's early days & Trav will be involved with the club for years to come.

Totally agree there Moon Unit and I couldn't have put it any better myself. Good to see someone telling the truth and not just trying to sh!t stir like the wizard.

[Mythical Creature]

How good was the win against Hummocks on the weekend. The pressure from the midfield and the back six was the best I have seen from us this year. Are Hummocks missing Joel already?

I guess the only negative for the day was the Umpiring (or Umpire). Young Angus once again showed his class and whilst I may not have agreed with every decision he made he was CONSISTENT which is all you can ask for. As for the other Umpire (Alyward), both clubs would agree that he was a disgrace. How he can get a game umpiring anything other than 14's with his fitness and decision making skills is beyond me!

Good to see Virginia still trying new things and getting the results, keep up the good work.

As for Mallala - Hamley, well you would expect scores like that when you come up against the top side and you're stacking the B's for a tilt at the finals!

[Ace of Spades]

I can hear it coming....

Cheers Unit, was beginning to think it wasnt coming...

[Ace of Spades]

How good was the win against Hummocks on the weekend. The pressure from the midfield and the back six was the best I have seen from us this year. Are Hummocks missing Joel already?

I guess the only negative for the day was the Umpiring (or Umpire). Young Angus once again showed his class and whilst I may not have agreed with every decision he made he was CONSISTENT which is all you can ask for. As for the other Umpire (Alyward), both clubs would agree that he was a disgrace. How he can get a game umpiring anything other than 14's with his fitness and decision making skills is beyond me!

Good to see Virginia still trying new things and getting the results, keep up the good work.

As for Mallala - Hamley, well you would expect scores like that when you come up against the top side and you're stacking the B's for a tilt at the finals!

Missing him already? Is there a time frame you have to wait to miss a player? Its been over a month now, can we miss him yet

The Eagles were dissapointing Saturday, hot and cold all year, but still have the players to play a big part in the finals. Great to see big Dillon Catford back for his first game in the reserves! Some big names in the 2's Saturday, was good to watch.

Yes the little fella was consistent (not impressive however), even ran into split up a few dust ups.

[FrancisGilbertHamley]

Swamp has enough credit to be able to have a crack at anyone or club in this league, i wouldn't question his credentials, Passionatley Black and white he may be, but he is APFL born and bred.

The two blokes you are going into bat for may be doing the right thing by your beliefs and you may be able to sleep comfortably at night with what's happening at the bridge, but i can tell you there are those who are not.
Ring-in's from "Wingfield Royals" and the like are no one elses idea of going forward, developing Juniors, yes definatley, but not buying in blokes with famous last names, who drop out at the last minute! Stick with the Juniors, and have a look out for players that want to invest in the club.[/quote]

Swamp probably does have the credentials. I just think the personal attacks are a waste of time, unless you actually know the guys.

If you are referring to the Wilsons, Anthony dropped out once last year with a valid excuse and Lionel has never pulled out before a match. They are both pretty good players and top blokes and I am happy to have them around all our juniors. Can you say that over the years all your imports have stayed on to invest in the club and play 100s of games....No. Because it does not always happen like that and you know it. I think we are doing plenty of investing in juniors and blokes that are going to stick around for a long time.

As for stacking our B-Grade, well this is not happening at all. If you can name me guys that have played A-Grade most of the year that we have dropped to play B Grade...then I will accept your claim. I have the impression that the Roosters are the kings of stacking the B Grade, but I am probably just as wrong as you are.

[FrancisGilbertHamley]

Oh hail Donkey the great man. He has finally managed to crack Hamley and get 2 posters on here! Well done donkey, if only we had all thought of having a crack at the Burgess' earlier in the year to get them on here.

Ha ha. I have been watching the posts for a few months. Swamp Donkey sucked me in to signing up hook line and sinker.

[Mythical Creature]

Oh hail Donkey the great man. He has finally managed to crack Hamley and get 2 posters on here! Well done donkey, if only we had all thought of having a crack at the Burgess' earlier in the year to get them on here.

Ha ha. I have been watching the posts for a few months. Swamp Donkey sucked me in to signing up hook line and sinker.

Good to hear from you then FGH! Its amazing how many people read this but don't actually post themselves! The more the merrier I say

[mighty hounds]

Swamp has enough credit to be able to have a crack at anyone or club in this league, i wouldn't question his credentials, Passionatley Black and white he may be, but he is APFL born and bred.

The two blokes you are going into bat for may be doing the right thing by your beliefs and you may be able to sleep comfortably at night with what's happening at the bridge, but i can tell you there are those who are not.
Ring-in's from "Wingfield Royals" and the like are no one elses idea of going forward, developing Juniors, yes definatley, but not buying in blokes with famous last names, who drop out at the last minute! Stick with the Juniors, and have a look out for players that want to invest in the club.

Swamp probably does have the credentials. I just think the personal attacks are a waste of time, unless you actually know the guys.

If you are referring to the Wilsons, Anthony dropped out once last year with a valid excuse and Lionel has never pulled out before a match. They are both pretty good players and top blokes and I am happy to have them around all our juniors. Can you say that over the years all your imports have stayed on to invest in the club and play 100s of games....No. Because it does not always happen like that and you know it. I think we are doing plenty of investing in juniors and blokes that are going to stick around for a long time.

As for stacking our B-Grade, well this is not happening at all. If you can name me guys that have played A-Grade most of the year that we have dropped to play B Grade...then I will accept your claim. I have the impression that the Roosters are the kings of stacking the B Grade, but I am probably just as wrong as you are.[/quote]

and u make that claim based on that they have only lost 1 game for the year, pathetic i must say

[Drop Bear]

Let me just start by saying SWAMP DONKEY you are < edited by mods. refrain from abusing others on this site. >

Your having a crack at two blokes you don't even know, These two blokes come to Hamley Bridge on the back of the club winning a flag but losing 15 out of 21 premiership players. The Club has had some pretty TOUGH times over the past three years and would have been easy for the Burgess Boys to walk away, but they are still there and aint going anywhere. Super coach as you call him has blooded so many young kids over this period, and because of this they are finally seeing the result come through, H.B's B'grade had a great win yesterday against Mallala, and alot of those B graders have had A grade experience. I think your being a bit too critical of yesterdays performance from Hamley, they had 3 bloke out already from there team and then another 6 blokes pulled out of the selected side between Thursday night and sat morning. If that happens to any side your going to be against it from the start. But i know Hamley are very disapointed with the result but they did get to introduce two more U/17's to Agrade football, and learn from the Best side in the comp. If you remember only a week before that Hamley pushed United right to the end and look at yesterdays results United smashed Hummocks. How quickly people forget. Mallala are a great side, but really its pretty easy to be when you whinge to the association and get given a extra import spot, even though you won the flag the year before. WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets cover Toughness shall we, Supercoach Burgess playing since 22 or 23 years old on one leg, After being told that he will not play footy again, I really dont Understand what some people see as tough, Is it Big Scary looking guys(one from Balak), who belt ya behind the play, or ones that defy the odds and play for 10 years after being told they'll never play again? You decide!
As for the Blonde Bombshell, yeah he doesn't go around belting players either but when you see him shirk an issue or back down from any situation then i'll stand corrected. Its pretty easy playing in a winning team, but true character comes out in the tough times, im not sure how much the Burgess boys have to do to show that they don't turn there backs on tough times.
As for the two boys hiding on the bench at the end of yesterdays game, As i said earlier Ben Burgess didn't play last week because of injury and wasn't selected this week but played due to all the late changes, played as much as he physically could, and then come of in the third term in pain(pretty TOUGH in itself really), and as for Brett, you might like to go ask the Mallala goal umpire the reason for him coming off, and i can guarantee you it wasn't to hide.
I reckon get of there backs, they both have nothing to prove to anyone. they have runs on the board. love to know what you have done in football Swamp Donkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pass the tissues.

[Drop Bear]

Just to prove you right!

Here's the Roosters Team o the year!

F- B.Montgomery - L.Evans - S.Jericho.
HF- Ja. Wilson - A.Evans - P.Mclean.
C- L.Allmond - D.Barnes - V.Taylor.
HB- J.Montgomerie - T.Cawrse - D.Ciccolella.
B- J.Earl - S.Dalgliesh - W.Mattschoss
R- H.Walker - L.Whitwell - B.Catford.
Int- N.Seccafien - M.Young - S.Light - T.Smith
Coach- Ja.Wilson (at this stage!)

WTF?

[twogood4u]

Stacking the Bs in the APFL is not possible when the APFL give you a list of whom can play Bs and whom can not! As they did to the virginia B grade side a couple years back. Even to the extent of a players coming back from injury and only playing one A grade game and three B grade games for the season. He was not allowed to play finals. This is only one of many problems facing this association. PATHETIC UMPIRES, THE MERCY RULE U17s, PREMIERSHIP TEAMS ALLOCATED MORE IMPORTS, TWO REPRESTERTIVE GAMES, SUNDAY FINALS and the list goes on.

[jumbo]

As for stacking our B-Grade, well this is not happening at all. If you can name me guys that have played A-Grade most of the year that we have dropped to play B Grade...then I will accept your claim. I have the impression that the Roosters are the kings of stacking the B Grade, but I am probably just as wrong as you are.

That's the wrong impression FGH - please name those that should be playing A's currently in the B's - let's get them up there ASAP.

[twogood4u]

Q. Did all the clubs who purchased new guerney's this season, have to purchase through the APFL?

[scud]

i totally agree with you twogood4u, this association need improving big time, also the fact the season goes for about 22 weeks for 18 rounds. way too many weeks off.