HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Dogwatcher]

Gumeracha and Torrens Valley might consider their future in the Hills and consider travelling to the Mid Murray.

Where'd ya get that one from DW. Fair way from Morgan to Gumeracha!! Think it beats Kersbrook to Milang.

TV for Hills Central I've heard......with recruits from West Adelaide comin.

The Valley Lions would be nudging the points already wouldn't they??? Can't see how they could afford multiple Westies blokes & still be under.

As for the travelling... imagine Kersbrook to Aldinga, hahaha gotta be an 8-can trip!

This was discussed at a football forum into the future of Mid Murray and Mallee football recently.

Another name thrown into the ring has been Callington.

Mid Murray clubs are clutching at every opportunity to save their comp.

[The Gimp]

i would really like to no what the rule is with yellow cards. the reason blackwood called the count was because they thought as we had a player sent of with the yellow card that no one could replace him. our runner consulted the umpire after 5 minutes who advised that we could replace the player. the most dissapointing thing was the way in which blackwood went about it. not once did their captain or even runner consult the umpires about the correct ruling on the yellow card before calling the player count. would be good to no if anyone out there has the correct ruling on yellow cards!

I believe the ruling is that if a player is sent off with a yellow card, then that player cannot be replaced with anyone for that ten minutes so then the offending team has to play with 17 men on the field for ten minutes.

I think down town i the SAAFL you can replace the player but not in the HFL.

Can anyone confirm?

[hillbilly]

Blackwood did a similar thing to Nairne/B last year which also won them that game....I wonder!

[Saint]

Blackwood are a bunch of cheats, i just whish that they would move to southern allready so we dont have to put up with their crap any more

[The_Special_One]

Firstly i would like to say that Mt Ronnie destroyed us in both grades on the weekend and regardless of the following issues they deserved the points in both grades;

I would just like to know how the HFL can allow games of football to be played on such a disgraceful surface...
Not only is there a risk of infection but i am surprised no one has done a serious injury to a knee trying to turn in that mud!!!
The worst thing about the shape of the oval is that after the game you are cramped into a shoe box whilst next door they have an abundance of room!!!
To cap things off we were not even left luxuries, (and i use the word lightly) such as soap!!! when we asked for soap the excuse given was that they had recently put soap dispensers up and had FORGOTTEN to put one in the visitors rooms!!! Thankfully they were generous enough to give us one of the bags out of their new dispensers... Thanks Boys!!!

And after saying we shouldnt bag out umpires on here last week i have to say Marsden's (i think that's his name) performance on the weekend was atrocius... and his display after pulling a hamstring in the A's ten times worse... i just feel sorry for the other two umpires who did a decent job all day!!!

[BALL BANGER]

It's funny what you hear floating around the Green Shed watching Bridgey get flogged. Was listening quietly whilst sipping a port or two and herd the following. Open clearence to any Bridgey player that wishes to go into Country Div. That's how stubborn their committee members are about staying in Central Div.
If that's the case then this next bit of information will sure to be true for next year.
After sitting on the sidelines with a sore head I've herd "Banger Feijen" will not be playing at Bridgey next year. He's had enough of 20 Goal thumpings week in week out, and has indicated he'd like to play one final year with his brother "Monty". He indicated if Bridgey don't make a move to Country next year then he won't be there. He may have a few followers then too. Bateman & Feijen were out at pre-season at Meadows early this year.....may sign the papers for 2009 and be in the Green & Gold.
Food for Thought!

Talk about rats leaving a sinking ship, aren't these two blokes the current captain and the immedite past captain.
You know what they say when the going gets tough the the tough get going and obviously the soft go walking.

I think both these boys have put in well past their dues and deserve the right to play wherever thay choose. When you've played for the past 10 yrs at senior level for one club and won between 10 to 15 games Total in that period, then no-one should be accusing them of jumping ship. As quoted before Banger has 1 more year of footy left and wants to finish playing his last year with his brother. Should be NO ARGUMENT!

[Jailbird]

Firstly i would like to say that Mt Ronnie destroyed us in both grades on the weekend and regardless of the following issues they deserved the points in both grades;

I would just like to know how the HFL can allow games of football to be played on such a disgraceful surface...
Not only is there a risk of infection but i am surprised no one has done a serious injury to a knee trying to turn in that mud!!!
The worst thing about the shape of the oval is that after the game you are cramped into a shoe box whilst next door they have an abundance of room!!!
To cap things off we were not even left luxuries, (and i use the word lightly) such as soap!!! when we asked for soap the excuse given was that they had recently put soap dispensers up and had FORGOTTEN to put one in the visitors rooms!!! Thankfully they were generous enough to give us one of the bags out of their new dispensers... Thanks Boys!!!

And after saying we shouldnt bag out umpires on here last week i have to say Marsden's (i think that's his name) performance on the weekend was atrocius... and his display after pulling a hamstring in the A's ten times worse... i just feel sorry for the other two umpires who did a decent job all day!!!

TSO, you shouldn't have been standing in the pockets all day, the oval was reasonably good in the middle and that is were we played, straight down the guts.

But I don't understand the reasoning behind the HFL giving us 2 home games in a row(uri's then bankers). Yet you guys have only played, what?, 2 games over the last 6 weeks I think I read somewhere, maybe more. Where is the common sense in that? You are lucky though the rain held off until Sunday.

[O'KNOWLEDGABLE ONE]

Hello All, after a week off to think about my actions & reflect on what I could of done better I apologise to all if I offended anyone. I will think more clearly about my remarks from hear on.
Any way it is a tight one now for the race to the finals - Mt Barker have surely about stitched up 3rd place I would think - so that leaves Uraidla, Hahndorf, Ironbank, Onka Valley fighting for two spots. Big one for Ironbank against Uri's after the disgrace they dished up agianst Mt Barker on the weekend. All set for great run home to September action. Sounds like a debacle and not the first hey with Blackwood B Grade - very interesting & not the first time - even more interesting!
Also thanks for all the support from all on here during this tough time of not being able to respond due to being banned - good to see I am appreciated.

[devilsadvocate]

Sounds like a debacle and not the first hey with Blackwood B Grade - very interesting & not the first time - even more interesting!

Exactly. After the shit they pulled a couple of seasons ago, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson after missing out on a prelim.
Bit dense those gypos from caravan land!

[shoe boy]

Taylor can be a little picky with his decisions but surely (by the previous remarks) people are aware of his umpiring standards and you adapt accordingly. Surely the way the rules are cmopared with a couple of years ago it's alot easier to be infront. Something we are told every week. What annoys me about the umps is that they wont talk to you when they have time just to explain things a little. This little personal thing can calm someone down and prevent a nasty incident from a frustrated player.
The umps are there to regulate a game not stamp their authority on it

Taylor's umpiring performance yesterday in the Onka's v Uri game was one of the worst, most inconsistent and most bias displays of umpiring I've ever seen. He had a deadset shocker. Free kick count was 45-14 in favour of Onka's!! And his interpretation of the holding the ball rule....What interpretation? There were instances where a player was tackled in the back and was paid holding the ball and the in an identical instance he'd pay a push in the back. This is the 3rd time I've seen Taylor umpire this season and aside from Kym Graham and Neville Clarke, Taylor is the worst umpire going around. Likes to be too involved in the game. There is no way that there should be near 60 free kicks paid in a game of football and there is no way that there should have been 60 free kicks paid in yesterdays game.

Onto yesterday's Uri v Onka's game and Uri's ended up winning comfortably by 50 points. Onka's jumped out of the blocks with the first three goals but Uri's kicked the next 10 goals and went into half time with an 8 goal lead. Onka's dominated the 3rd quarter and used the wind well to get back within 15 points at 3/4 time but Uri's kicked away in the last to win easily; Onka's failing to score in the last quarter.

some things dont change Bullpit!!! Our loss your gain. Taylor was our worst ump and when news of his leaving the SFL and GSFL there was great relief. He is a control freek who beleives the game revolves around him. Also am shocked of the money's he is payed approx 18k? money not well spent. this negitive feedback is not coming from a disgrunted player but someone who knows him off and on field.

[B075]

To clarify, a player sent off with a yellow card cannot return to the ground for 10 minutes nor can they be substituted for that period of time.

Blackwood was well within their rights to call for a head count for a number of reasons but namely because Mt Lofty were playing with 18 players on the ground when according to the rules they should have had 17. This is a point everyone is failing to address. With less than 5 minutes remaining and a margin of less than a goal no other club would have behaved any differently.

The Blackwood captain did consult the umpire as to the rule and subsequently a head count was called. Despite being correct a 50m penalty was awarded against Blackwood. This issue stemmed from the umpire giving Mt Lofty the incorrect interpretation of the rule, allowing them to substitute the offending player. Blackwood knew the rule and acted accordingly.

If Mt Lofty are looking for a scapegoat, perhaps look at the player who gave away the 2, 50m penalties that resulted in a goal, that is where the game was lost.

To the accusation that Blackwood changed the new Sherrin to an old footy to quell Mt Lofty's momentum, it is both unsubstantiated and poorly thought out. Anyone who has played at Windy Hill knows there is a steep slope behind the goals and a result an alternate footy is placed behind the goals to ensure no game time is lost retreiving it. For the record, Blackwood kicked 2 goals with this alleged old ball. You're clutchng at straws with that one guys.

[efc]

in the amatuer league if a player rec a yellow card he can be replaced straight away but he cannot return himself for 10 mins. If it is a red card he cannot return at all but be replaced after 10 minutes by another player

[GetTheSherrin]

BO75, no doubt the 50s cost us the game, it was a terrible thing to do at that time in a close game. but how about the rushed behind which was pushed into the post by a mtlofty player (and only player within 5m of the ball) that was called a goal by the blackwood goal umpire??? good times (and standard times) at windy hill!

[The_Special_One]

B075 i was under the impression you are not allowed to have a ball behind the goals to exchange anymore... reason being you are allowed to play on immediately after a behind??? is this correct?

[devilsadvocate]

To clarify, a player sent off with a yellow card cannot return to the ground for 10 minutes nor can they be substituted for that period of time.

Blackwood was well within their rights to call for a head count for a number of reasons but namely because Mt Lofty were playing with 18 players on the ground when according to the rules they should have had 17. This is a point everyone is failing to address. With less than 5 minutes remaining and a margin of less than a goal no other club would have behaved any differently.

The Blackwood captain did consult the umpire as to the rule and subsequently a head count was called. Despite being correct a 50m penalty was awarded against Blackwood. This issue stemmed from the umpire giving Mt Lofty the incorrect interpretation of the rule, allowing them to substitute the offending player. Blackwood knew the rule and acted accordingly.

Wasn't the umpire consulted before the Mt Lofty player was bought back onto the field after the yellow? By all accounts he was by our runner and the ump allowed the player to return. So actually the Blackwood captain was incorrect as the umpire had given permission for the player to come back on.

And the goal umpiring incident is deplorable.

[Howard]

It's funny what you hear floating around the Green Shed watching Bridgey get flogged. Was listening quietly whilst sipping a port or two and herd the following. Open clearence to any Bridgey player that wishes to go into Country Div. That's how stubborn their committee members are about staying in Central Div.
If that's the case then this next bit of information will sure to be true for next year.
After sitting on the sidelines with a sore head I've herd "Banger Feijen" will not be playing at Bridgey next year. He's had enough of 20 Goal thumpings week in week out, and has indicated he'd like to play one final year with his brother "Monty". He indicated if Bridgey don't make a move to Country next year then he won't be there. He may have a few followers then too. Bateman & Feijen were out at pre-season at Meadows early this year.....may sign the papers for 2009 and be in the Green & Gold.
Food for Thought!

Talk about rats leaving a sinking ship, aren't these two blokes the current captain and the immedite past captain.
You know what they say when the going gets tough the the tough get going and obviously the soft go walking.

I think both these boys have put in well past their dues and deserve the right to play wherever thay choose. When you've played for the past 10 yrs at senior level for one club and won between 10 to 15 games Total in that period, then no-one should be accusing them of jumping ship. As quoted before Banger has 1 more year of footy left and wants to finish playing his last year with his brother. Should be NO ARGUMENT!

Fair call, about the two boys, but in the initial quote it talks about a stubborn committee refusing to look at Country division, the club has had a number of general meetings to confirm where the members of the club wish to play, each meeting has confirmed the current situation.
I believe it will look at their options again for 2009, as I read it the junior competition in the Country zone is a major stumbling block, similar to why Birdwood decided to leave that division. If the HFL could sort that problem out Bridgewater may well decide to opt for the Country division, everyone knows they are not too competitive in their current form.

[B075]

You're right, the umpire did advise your runner the player could be replaced, however this was not conveyed to Blackwood, hence the head count. When a team has an extra player on the field, protocol is for the captain to advise the umpire, which is what eventuated.

With regard to the goal umpire incident it may have been rushed however Blackwood was also awarded a point for a clear-cut goal in the 2nd quarter at a crucial stage of the game.

Blackwood were well aware of the rule, if Lofty and the umpire were also, this incident would have never occured

[Demon68]

BO75,

Sounds like you are trying to justify some activities that were undertaken by the club that were not in the spirit of the game, instead of trying to justify the action to others, why not suggest to the club that they play within the spirit of the game.

Cant expect much more from Hills wannabes and perrenial underachievers.

As for the balls going down the hill at the northern end goals, the club have known about this for years and could simply place a net type arrangement or fence behind the goals to stop this occuring, about time they addressed this.

[devilsadvocate]

You're right, the umpire did advise your runner the player could be replaced, however this was not conveyed to Blackwood, hence the head count. When a team has an extra player on the field, protocol is for the captain to advise the umpire, which is what eventuated.

With regard to the goal umpire incident it may have been rushed however Blackwood was also awarded a point for a clear-cut goal in the 2nd quarter at a crucial stage of the game.

Blackwood were well aware of the rule, if Lofty and the umpire were also, this incident would have never occured

My understanding is that the umpire only has to confirm to the runner that the player is allowed back on. There is no need to consult the opposing side. I stand to be corrected.

Also, if the Mt Lofty rushed behind-turned goal was in the 4th q and that was a mistake by the Blackwood umpire, then the 2nd q Blackwood goal-turned behind was also the Blackwood umpire as the goal umps only swap at half time? If so, perhaps a new set of spectacles may be required for the gentleman in question.

[BALL BANGER]

HOWARD
Sound like some people are starting to see the light. I agree that some Country Clubs have a little trouble with Junior sides, but there's still plenty of good football to develop players. You only need to look at Narine & Meadows juniors to see that these kids don't suffer in development because of it. If anything they learn to grow in confedence from winning. Hopefully they come to an agreement soon either way and start heading in a positive direction.