Barossa / Light League

[blockie]

Once we have worked out who the best coach is perhaps we can start putting odds on the best player. At this stage I have got Ben Newberry (Tan), Brad Valentine (Kap), Brad Taylor (GC) and look out for the late charge from the Nuri ruckman M Cragg-Sappsford. We know that there are plenty more out there so gives us your opinions, still would like to know how GC new recruit went on the weekend. John Doe you mentioned Kurtz but what about Spanagel, he was worth 2 recruits. What was the outcome of the Willaston spat at Kapunda all seems to be fairly silent.

Skip

The issues at Willaston are still there, bubbling away under the surface, just wait till you see a little pressure applied & they will explode like a volcano, they definitely miss the leadership & maturity of guys like Brandon Nottle

Any Updates John??

[blockie]

I hear what you are saying Skip re the coach of the year, but how (and who) do you judge a coach that has done the junior rebuild thing V a new A grade coach that may just be the spark that the side needed to take the next step? Gawler Central had a talented list prior to this season, Brant has definatley changed their style of play and I think you will see that they will keep improving until their last game, but I don't really think he has reinvented the wheel at the dog track. But he has created a spark and some interest in footy again. Are you suggesting we need a selection panel to select the coach of the year? Do we need a coach of the year award?

we have awards for just about everything else blockie (sven), I cant see the harm in recognising the coaches. The best improvement we could make is to take the politics out of it (which is why O'Connor never won it, he's hated by the people who pick it)

John who picks it? Surely can't be the local media. Agree we have too many awards!!

[blockie]

Blockie if you read back you will actually see that it was not me that started this discussion I have just joined in giving my opinion who are the top coaches, which is a very relevent issue. I would think the gig as the coach of the association side would be the just prize. I think it is vital in a country league that the A grade coach is the club coach and is there to develop the club and not just the A grade side. I think you will agree with this after the balls up you guys had with Peter Young who was only interested in the A grade and anyone who couldn't make it was forgotton about.

Skip

Interesting points you raise there Skip. Might have to slightly disagree with you re the Peter Young exercise. a) Yes it didn't work , but then neither did Peter Kleinig although both were trying the "same" thing. b) some would argue that Youngy philosophy was correct, he was always trying the young lads, but maybe just confused them when they got there.

Would the coach of the year actually want the gig to coach the Association side?

I have gone back over your blogs and you are right you are only offering an opinion about your man Brant, could to see support from within!!

Even though I don't really think we need a coach of the year, or even if they want to win it, I think John Doe is clutching at straws suggesting Lee is still in with a chance. Agree they will probably win a few more games and even upset some of the top four...but

[blockie]

Dear John

As a true Panther what has happened to your guys, is it the youngsters that are just getting tired as the season progresses. We know it happens to clubs that really go back to grass roots and back their young lads, which I might add is the way to go and your injuries have not helped although from what I understand it is some of your younger guys?? You are having a few debutees too. Give us a prediction where you will be at seasons end and in 2009? Maybe a run down of your view of who you will and won't win against for the remainder.

[John Doe]

Dear John

As a true Panther what has happened to your guys, is it the youngsters that are just getting tired as the season progresses. We know it happens to clubs that really go back to grass roots and back their young lads, which I might add is the way to go and your injuries have not helped although from what I understand it is some of your younger guys?? You are having a few debutees too. Give us a prediction where you will be at seasons end and in 2009? Maybe a run down of your view of who you will and won't win against for the remainder.

well blockie from the start they were always a little short on gun players, the recruiting never hit the heights needed to help the young fellas along, injuries to the wrong players has hurt but I think they will still be cometitive over the remaining rounds and win their share of games that could see them finish 6th or with a little luck 5th or (now I'm hoping) even higher but thats gonna take a bit of uck after they shot themselves in the foot too many times in winnable games

[blockie]

Dear John

As a true Panther what has happened to your guys, is it the youngsters that are just getting tired as the season progresses. We know it happens to clubs that really go back to grass roots and back their young lads, which I might add is the way to go and your injuries have not helped although from what I understand it is some of your younger guys?? You are having a few debutees too. Give us a prediction where you will be at seasons end and in 2009? Maybe a run down of your view of who you will and won't win against for the remainder.

well blockie from the start they were always a little short on gun players, the recruiting never hit the heights needed to help the young fellas along, injuries to the wrong players has hurt but I think they will still be cometitive over the remaining rounds and win their share of games that could see them finish 6th or with a little luck 5th or (now I'm hoping) even higher but thats gonna take a bit of uck after they shot themselves in the foot too many times in winnable games

Interested to hear your thoughts on whether the draw against Barossa was a good or bad thing in hindsight?

[John Doe]

Possibly a poor indication in the result, ango played above themselves and really showed heart but barossa were not their usual selves & yet to gel as a team. KMay have raised expectations to an unreasonable level

[skipper]

Keep giving the young lads a go JD, no one remembers where you finish between 5th & 8th, just don't finish bottom. Whats it a matter if you drew with Barossa at least it shows potential and as you said heart.

Skip

[holden06]

I hear what you are saying Skip re the coach of the year, but how (and who) do you judge a coach that has done the junior rebuild thing V a new A grade coach that may just be the spark that the side needed to take the next step? Gawler Central had a talented list prior to this season, Brant has definatley changed their style of play and I think you will see that they will keep improving until their last game, but I don't really think he has reinvented the wheel at the dog track. But he has created a spark and some interest in footy again. Are you suggesting we need a selection panel to select the coach of the year? Do we need a coach of the year award?

we have awards for just about everything else blockie (sven), I cant see the harm in recognising the coaches. The best improvement we could make is to take the politics out of it (which is why O'Connor never won it, he's hated by the people who pick it)

Last year the Willaston coach even said sorry to the Barossa table when he got up to except his award. That tells me that it means nothing to be coach of the year.

[Texas Rattlesnake]

This weeks games...

Nuriootpa V South Gawler
Gawler Central V Angaston
Kapunda V Freeling
Willaston V Tanunda

My tips will have to be South Gawler, Centrals, Kapunda in a close one and Tanunda to throw the donny's into further turmoil...

Looks like a fairly straight forward week doesnt it??

[blockie]

Nuriootpa V South Gawler, the Nuriootpa resurgence has well and truly started apparently and they are the side on the move according to the local media experts. Can cragg-sappsford carry the load though for the remainder of the season, or is this one of those games he has to miss?
Gawler Central V Angaston, could and should be another big loss to the young panther pups
Kapunda V Freeling, the return of the zone reps will strengthen Kapunda and they should win.
Willaston V Tanunda, chance for Willaston to show what they are made of, surely their can't be that much turmoil at the land of Donny's, although Media Mike certainly has been keeping the pot boiling in the misleader. Tanunda get back Newberry, Wells and Prior, and should be enough to stay atop the ladder.

[blockie]

Keep giving the young lads a go JD, no one remembers where you finish between 5th & 8th, just don't finish bottom. Whats it a matter if you drew with Barossa at least it shows potential and as you said heart.

Skip

Skip, you and john having a bit of a love fest at the moment!! Potential is a very dangerous word, not sure where you are from but if you get a chance to listen to 89.1 Triple B FM on Saturday mornings you will hear Media Mike and Jamo 07, chatting away about all things Barossa Footy. I don't get to listen too often but when I do, you get the feeling media mike doesn't rate potential only results, maybe you can convince him that potential is not such a dirty word!

[Texas Rattlesnake]

Nuriootpa V South Gawler, the Nuriootpa resurgence has well and truly started apparently and they are the side on the move according to the local media experts. Can cragg-sappsford carry the load though for the remainder of the season, or is this one of those games he has to miss?
Gawler Central V Angaston, could and should be another big loss to the young panther pups
Kapunda V Freeling, the return of the zone reps will strengthen Kapunda and they should win.
Willaston V Tanunda, chance for Willaston to show what they are made of, surely their can't be that much turmoil at the land of Donny's, although Media Mike certainly has been keeping the pot boiling in the misleader. Tanunda get back Newberry, Wells and Prior, and should be enough to stay atop the ladder.

Blockie... South beat Nuri comfortably last time they met and yes Cragg-Sapsford will not be playing, neither will Adam Fiegert who is away...

[blockie]

Nuriootpa V South Gawler, the Nuriootpa resurgence has well and truly started apparently and they are the side on the move according to the local media experts. Can cragg-sappsford carry the load though for the remainder of the season, or is this one of those games he has to miss?
Gawler Central V Angaston, could and should be another big loss to the young panther pups
Kapunda V Freeling, the return of the zone reps will strengthen Kapunda and they should win.
Willaston V Tanunda, chance for Willaston to show what they are made of, surely their can't be that much turmoil at the land of Donny's, although Media Mike certainly has been keeping the pot boiling in the misleader. Tanunda get back Newberry, Wells and Prior, and should be enough to stay atop the ladder.

Blockie... South beat Nuri comfortably last time they met and yes Cragg-Sapsford will not be playing, neither will Adam Fiegert who is away...

Well this will be a big test for the tiger pups then to see just how much they have improved, cragg is a big loss, Fiegert maybe a bigger loss in the bar afterwards!! One of the funniest blokes on and off field! I'll still stick with the puppies!

[John Doe]

Keep giving the young lads a go JD, no one remembers where you finish between 5th & 8th, just don't finish bottom. Whats it a matter if you drew with Barossa at least it shows potential and as you said heart.

Skip

Skip, you and john having a bit of a love fest at the moment!! Potential is a very dangerous word, not sure where you are from but if you get a chance to listen to 89.1 Triple B FM on Saturday mornings you will hear Media Mike and Jamo 07, chatting away about all things Barossa Footy. I don't get to listen too often but when I do, you get the feeling media mike doesn't rate potential only results, maybe you can convince him that potential is not such a dirty word!

I'd rather sleep in on a sat morn than listen to that waffle!

[skipper]

Good one Blockie, no love fests here unlike what is happening in Blockville between your footballers and any female that moves around that town. I see you seem to be a little worried about Willaston and its potential problems. I hear that on Tues night they all stood around Baker and hit him with foot long metty sticks just to get him fired him to give you metty breaths a flogging. Don't know if it will work. My tips are Blockies (how could you not considering all the factors), South to end Nuri's run, Kapunda to cement Freeling on the bottom & GC the run riot over Ango. Blockie big call on the tiger pups if the bigman and Fiegert are out.

Skip

[John Doe]

I read in the bunyip today Scott Leal is squealing that they dont have enough import spots allocated to them, funny that Barossa who suffered just as big a cut seem to be doing ok. Maybe that's what you get for for recruiting old imports who aren't looking to hang around long term scott!, also developing the club might have been a good idea during your tenure

[skipper]

I read in the bunyip today Scott Leal is squealing that they dont have enough import spots allocated to them, funny that Barossa who suffered just as big a cut seem to be doing ok. Maybe that's what you get for for recruiting old imports who aren't looking to hang around long term scott!, also developing the club might have been a good idea during your tenure

Ain't that the truth, not enough import allocations he has got to be kidding. If Freeling wanted more players they would have got them and parked them on a farm in a caravan. Leal just isn't a very good coach, he is badly missing Prouse on the sideline and he has lost control of his team. Some massive problems out there that need to be solved. Good rain with good grain prices may see another big rebuild next year. Unlike most clubs that rebuild over 3 or 4 years Freeling will try and do it in 1 with the cheque book.

Skip

[John Doe]

He conveniently seems to forget that freeling were the biggest winner when the league at the same time changed the local qualification for imports to any that had played 60 games in what smacks of a major concession to the legs as Fowden,Lamond & both leal's were localised. Cant understand how they reappointed him, if he couldn't win it with the cattle he had & money spent the prev 3 yrs, how was he gonna cope on a level playing field?

[old moz]

JD, skip or blockie, please do me a favour. give me a rundown of the nicknames you give to the teams in BLFL. e.g blockies ???, mettyeaters???. might help us outsiders keep up. thanks.