Adelaide Plains Football League

[twogood4u]

So the weekend was to showcase our league? players getting pick in the zone squad that did not even play on the weekend, getting beaten on the weekend due to not knowing specific rules, while on the home front players cop a ban for not being avalible(well some of them ). Then the mercy rule and to top it all off, the pathetic umpiring preformances of late. I RECKON THE WEEKEND WAS FOR BUCSHY TO PUT TICKETS ON HIM SELF AND SHOW HOW AN ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE RUN.

[old moz]

So the weekend was to showcase our league? players getting pick in the zone squad that did not even play on the weekend, getting beaten on the weekend due to not knowing specific rules, while on the home front players cop a ban for not being avalible(well some of them ). Then the mercy rule and to top it all off, the pathetic umpiring preformances of late. I RECKON THE WEEKEND WAS FOR BUCSHY TO PUT TICKETS ON HIM SELF AND SHOW HOW AN ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE RUN.

i agree with tg4u [ apart from the umpire bit [ don't watch so don't know]]. are the inmates running the asylum in APFL. i think it's time football people in the area take back control. don't complain do something about it.

[Ace of Spades]

Lets not kid ourselves lads, this crap has been happening for years. I think Joel Wilson missed the Assoc game last year due to injury? Then was picked in the zone squad and then onto SA Country..... Nothin agaist the players, Joel and Earle (or Earl as he likes to spell it) when fit are without a doubt Zone players. Just makes it hard for all the other blokes who do play Assoc to understand why they are doing it.

[Hazbeen]

Who did make zone side?

[Ace of Spades]

Who did make zone side?

i think the following..

Almond, Seccafin
Walker, Catford
Ja Wilson, Jo Wilson, Cicca...
willy searle
Young
Earl, some of the monts?

think thats close, cant remember who else

[The Rooster]

See the APFL have got it completely wrong, again???? Last Wednesday night at Assoc training, Harry Taylor told the emergencies for the team that they would not be playing on Saturday and would not be required to show up on Saturday at the game. As a result Brian Montgomery organises to work as he would every Saturday up until 1pm. The coach then rang him late Friday night to tell Brian he is now needed as Tom Smith pulled out, to which Brian couldnt commit as he had already committed to working for the day (given he was told this was ok) so the APFL slaps him with a one-week suspension. Absolute load of sh#t, considering he went to every training unlike 70% of the other squad members and was told he was not required. All due respects to Buschy, there hasnt been too many smart decisions coming from your way for several years.

Angry Donks?

I reckon your man will be alright, he will probably have to walk over to the pub and have a chat with the tribubal and explain the circumstances, he'll get off!

But i do agree with the firm stance taken by the APFL, all blokes who transgressed as far as the Assoc side was concerned, should have to explain themselves on a case for case basis. I know it sounds draconian but it keeps players and coaches on the level, otherwise we'll end up the same as yorkes, not fielding a side because everyone has overnight injuries.

[The Rooster]

Heard an interesting rumour the other day. Apparently Byron Pickett is a certainty to be playing for United by the end of the year. Anybody have anything to offer on that one???

Yeah I have heard that one, highly probable as well as Sam McArdle's return before the seasons out. Both will be handy. Im surprised its taken this long, considering they're sitting 4th. I guess when you've got money to waste, then why not. Last years investments payed dividends, thats for sure.

Byron has been training with the Ceduna Blues and is supposed to be playing there. Thats where his wife lives. As for Sam, I'm pretty sure he is only due back from New Zealand in November as thats when their wine harvest finishes.

Sam would be a huge pick up and id say be more value than Byron. Its funny how country footy in a way brings players back to an even playing field (to an extent) i havent worded that very well) but i mean hear-say would suggest that a superstar like Che and byron would dominate country footy comps, however it is a completely different style and type of footy and i believe it really levels out certain welll-drilled abilities, which is great.
I have a theory that a country team is better off recruiting gun standout country footballers whom have played country footy and play well for several years over a player whom has played at league level all his life (however nobody is going to knock back the likes of Quino and Che). Footy at higher levels is heavily drilled which makes it predictable for teammates and hence easier to get a kick. ie intricate game plans, knowing where to run and expecting the ball to be given every time. I realise that if guys like byron want to play at your club your not going to knock him back, cos as we have seen with Che, he hasnt set the world on fire with his footy, but he has brought a lot of interest and excitement to United FC. I guess its a similar story at Virginia with Ricky O i mean most people would expect him to be dominating kick 5-6 goals per game, but reality is your never going to get that every week.
It is for these reasons that i dont agree with country clubs actively recruiting and paying big big dollars for high profile players. As a team striving for on field success, i'd sooner recruit 3 quality country footballers (for the same $$$) whom you will get better footy out of. As for blokes like Che and Byron theyre a bonus as realistically they have nothing to prove, (have a look at thier achievements, incredible) and are just looking to enjoy thier footy, which is the reason they wont tear the game apart every week, the fact is if they can take home the equivilent of a wage for doing this every week its a pretty handy bonus. How many of these players is too many??
What are everyone elses thoughts on the issue

er, yep ... i agree, Post of the week!

[The Rooster]

Another interesting note is that the Under 17's took out the carnival last week, Well done to the boys and the future of the competitions standard looks in good shape, Despite this ridiculous mercy rule.

I wonder if the scores were nil after half time and if any of the APFL boys had to swap guernseys' to even it up!

I just don't get over the hypocrisy, they shackle the young players from fully cutting loose week in week out, yet they are still able to pick out the best players and then ask them to represent the league. I think the weekends results show that there are some exciting young men running around with the senior colts and they should be encouraged to be the absolute best they can be, not forced to play out a game that has been killed halfway through.

I know that Jumbo will want to Weigh in on this!

[Woofa]

So the weekend was to showcase our league? players getting pick in the zone squad that did not even play on the weekend, getting beaten on the weekend due to not knowing specific rules, while on the home front players cop a ban for not being avalible(well some of them ). Then the mercy rule and to top it all off, the pathetic umpiring preformances of late. I RECKON THE WEEKEND WAS FOR BUCSHY TO PUT TICKETS ON HIM SELF AND SHOW HOW AN ASSOCIATION SHOULD BE RUN.

Yep, could just imagine him swanning around Balak oval carrying on as he does!

[Woofa]

But i do agree with the firm stance taken by the APFL, all blokes who transgressed as far as the Assoc side was concerned, should have to explain themselves on a case for case basis. I know it sounds draconian but it keeps players and coaches on the level, otherwise we'll end up the same as yorkes, not fielding a side because everyone has overnight injuries.[/quote]

Just a thought.... If so many people don't want to take part, why make them? Not sure if there is an easy answer for this. Assoc footy has a long proud history & it would be a shame if it went by the way side but if 75% of the leagues best players don't want to be part of it, should we still have it. I wouldn't think any player would put it above club footy (not that that is neccessary). Some pro's for not having it would be a bigger break between seasons ie summer sports & winter sports. Or maybe lengthening our own footy season with no sunday finals needed or even just a mid season break for all clubs. I have supported these games as a participant & a spectator in the 90's & since then have seen them slip from stand alone fixtures to lightning carnival type formats. Is the writing on the wall already???

[Rupert07]

I hear what you guys are saying about trying to make people play and suspending them if they don't and this has been the way assoc. have tried to do it for years.

Now I am not saying that the way the NEFL has done it the last couple of years is correct but the coach Tim Goodwin has said from the outset that if you don't want to play let him know and you don't have to. He wanted 23 blokes who actually want to be there having a dip. As a consequence of this people have done a bit of a 180 and actually want to be picked for the game. Don't know if this is the answer but it has certainly helped up here not taking a heavy handed approach and has also promoted a lot of young fella's having a go at this level and not forcing imports or hazbeen's to play

[Woofa]

I hear what you guys are saying about trying to make people play and suspending them if they don't and this has been the way assoc. have tried to do it for years.

Now I am not saying that the way the NEFL has done it the last couple of years is correct but the coach Tim Goodwin has said from the outset that if you don't want to play let him know and you don't have to. He wanted 23 blokes who actually want to be there having a dip. As a consequence of this people have done a bit of a 180 and actually want to be picked for the game. Don't know if this is the answer but it has certainly helped up here not taking a heavy handed approach and has also promoted a lot of young fella's having a go at this level and not forcing imports or hazbeen's to play

No repercussions from players not wanting to play Rupert?

[Ace of Spades]

I think you'd find that probably 90% of players in the APFL would be champing at the bit to play Assoc football. Its the other 10% who are either genuinely injured, ex-league/AFL players who have little let to prove, and the players who have represented the league on numerous occasions (who prob deserve a break if they want one), who arent keen on playing. oh and prob add bloke with boats to that list

Perhaps the league should sent out a reg form at the start of the season for all those interested in representing the Assoc? then atleast selectors would know who to look out for during the selection period (which sometimes seems to be the previous few years )

[Ace of Spades]

Swamp not matter how much you try to make the magpies the under dogs they are the team to beat, only having lost 1 game, you will flog the Rams and flog them well.

The Eagles will out last a gallant Bombers (who seem to have new players every week??)

Two Wells to have too much run for Balak.

[Swamp Donkey]

I think having high profile ex-AFL footballers can only be a good thing for your club. They generate alot of interest and young players love seeing them and talking/training with them. As far as payment goes, I'm pretty sure Che isn't earning as much as you think he is. He certainly couldn't live off his weekly football wage. I reckon you're right when it comes to busting your gut week in and week out though. They don't really have much left to prove, but anyone who's played AFL is a fierce competitor and they certainly wouldn't like losing.

As far as lifelong Country footballers who are big guns, they would be commanding big coin (as much if not more than an ex SANFL/AFL player. I know Matty Oliver was on big $$$, but he certainly busted his gut each week and earned it.

Yeah good call, some country footballers are on the big bucks.
Dont get me wrong here boys, im not having a crack at United, i think its great that players like Che are playing in our comp, particularly as he conducts himself very well.

There is a fair difference between Che and Byron. Che was past it well before he came to the APFL.

Im not so sure of that. Byron was playing 2's at Port earlier this year, for reason which i dont know but id presume if he wasnt "past it" he'd be a certain starter for the Port Magpies particularly given thier performances to date this season.

If Byron did come out and play, what would your expectations be of him Big Shrek? Apart from the fact it would draw fans and supporters and be an awesome spectacle for any local footy follower.

[Swamp Donkey]

Swamp not matter how much you try to make the magpies the under dogs they are the team to beat, only having lost 1 game, you will flog the Rams and flog them well.

The Eagles will out last a gallant Bombers (who seem to have new players every week??)

Two Wells to have too much run for Balak.

Magpies definately expect to win the match, it was just more a modest gesture. Imagine if i said Mallala would win by 12 goals every week, fair chance id cop it sweet eventually. Ive certainly got faith mate, but i expect Virginia to be in full force after the week off. With Papa, Seccas, Ricky O, Bass, Youngy and plenty of other quality palyers they will give a good account for themselves they always do against the pies. Im sure it wont be the type of blowout your predicting.

[Swamp Donkey]

Who did make zone side?

i think the following..

Almond, Seccafin
Walker, Catford
Ja Wilson, Jo Wilson, Cicca...
willy searle
Young
Earl, some of the monts(Rimmer, Joel Mont, Southern)?

think thats close, cant remember who else

[Woofa]

I think you'd find that probably 90% of players in the APFL would be champing at the bit to play Assoc football. Its the other 10% who are either genuinely injured, ex-league/AFL players who have little let to prove, and the players who have represented the league on numerous occasions (who prob deserve a break if they want one), who arent keen on playing. oh and prob add bloke with boats to that list

Perhaps the league should sent out a reg form at the start of the season for all those interested in representing the Assoc? then atleast selectors would know who to look out for during the selection period (which sometimes seems to be the previous few years )

Not too sure about 90% Ace?? From what i have seen over the years, some good players have exagerated & in some cases manufactured injuries to ensure they are not selected. Don't get me wrong, i know there are many who do hold the league jumper in hi regard but 90% is way too high a figure from what i've seen. Great effort by our u17's too. But its fair to say that those kids enthusiasm for assoc footy may not transfer to senior assoc footy.

[The Big Shrek]

I think having high profile ex-AFL footballers can only be a good thing for your club. They generate alot of interest and young players love seeing them and talking/training with them. As far as payment goes, I'm pretty sure Che isn't earning as much as you think he is. He certainly couldn't live off his weekly football wage. I reckon you're right when it comes to busting your gut week in and week out though. They don't really have much left to prove, but anyone who's played AFL is a fierce competitor and they certainly wouldn't like losing.

As far as lifelong Country footballers who are big guns, they would be commanding big coin (as much if not more than an ex SANFL/AFL player. I know Matty Oliver was on big $$$, but he certainly busted his gut each week and earned it.

Yeah good call, some country footballers are on the big bucks.
Dont get me wrong here boys, im not having a crack at United, i think its great that players like Che are playing in our comp, particularly as he conducts himself very well.

There is a fair difference between Che and Byron. Che was past it well before he came to the APFL.

Im not so sure of that. Byron was playing 2's at Port earlier this year, for reason which i dont know but id presume if he wasnt "past it" he'd be a certain starter for the Port Magpies particularly given thier performances to date this season.

If Byron did come out and play, what would your expectations be of him Big Shrek? Apart from the fact it would draw fans and supporters and be an awesome spectacle for any local footy follower.

Bryon has only been removed from an AFL club since last september. I believe there were some family issues which meant he couldn't committ to Port and why he left. Having said that these issues may have caused his ability to deteriorate rapidly.

How long since Che played AFL? I reckon he retired from AFL in 2003 and finished SANFL after the 2005 season. If I remember correctly he was playing ressies, and wasn't exactly dominating at that level. No-one would expect a reserves player getting older to dominate a country comp.

I don't think judging recruiting ex AFL players off one blokes efforts is going to be accurate. Look at what Wangas did in one game last year. Modra and Weideman dominated the GSFL and div 1 amateurs. Both are still playing good A grade footy despite being about 40. I'm sure you can find other examples like Che who haven't done that much, but I can think of plenty of so called gun country footy players who haven't lived up to their hype too.

[Swamp Donkey]

Bryon has only been removed from an AFL club since last september. I believe there were some family issues which meant he couldn't committ to Port and why he left. Having said that these issues may have caused his ability to deteriorate rapidly.

How long since Che played AFL? I reckon he retired from AFL in 2003 and finished SANFL after the 2005 season. If I remember correctly he was playing ressies, and wasn't exactly dominating at that level. No-one would expect a reserves player getting older to dominate a country comp.

I don't think judging recruiting ex AFL players off one blokes efforts is going to be accurate. Look at what Wangas did in one game last year. Modra and Weideman dominated the GSFL and div 1 amateurs. Both are still playing good A grade footy despite being about 40. I'm sure you can find other examples like Che who haven't done that much, but I can think of plenty of so called gun country footy players who haven't lived up to their hype too.

Yeah fair point, but I cant see Byron doing what these guys have done. Wanganeen is a freak and stays naturally fit and lean. How do you think Byron would be looking at the moment and can you see him training the house down to get fit for a country club when he's not willing to do it for an Afl or sanfl club?