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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Panther32 » Thu May 22, 2008 2:29 pm

Only Woodhouse knows the answer to that question.... :wink:
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby GWW » Thu May 22, 2008 3:41 pm

Panther32 wrote:Only Woodhouse knows the answer to that question.... :wink:


The Bluds' Treasurer may know as well ;)
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Goldberg » Thu May 22, 2008 3:43 pm

Maybe the Bluds tailor would know!!!
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Panther32 » Thu May 22, 2008 3:46 pm

GWW wrote:
Panther32 wrote:Only Woodhouse knows the answer to that question.... :wink:


The Bluds' Treasurer may know as well ;)

Wayne Swan?
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby GWW » Thu May 22, 2008 4:23 pm

Panther32 wrote:
GWW wrote:
Panther32 wrote:Only Woodhouse knows the answer to that question.... :wink:


The Bluds' Treasurer may know as well ;)

Wayne Swan?


So the govt provides the Bluds with grants, that would explain it :shock:
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby footyislife » Thu May 22, 2008 7:57 pm

GWW wrote:
Panther32 wrote:
GWW wrote:
Panther32 wrote:Only Woodhouse knows the answer to that question.... :wink:


The Bluds' Treasurer may know as well ;)

Wayne Swan?


So the govt provides the Bluds with grants, that would explain it :shock:

The bluds need the grants to compete with the turnover of IMPS bar trade of 6 days aweek and other big population clubs .I think Denis Hicks cousin works in the labour goverment
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby NO-MERCY » Thu May 22, 2008 8:43 pm

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Goldberg wrote:Mahoney, Ewer, Rigney, Schmidt, maybe a couple more have probably been the best recruits of any club in the last 4 years. For 1 thing, they are all still there. How often do you get 4-5, 4-5year recruits at once. If there is 1 thing they get right, its that. Recruiting. However when you have as many as Jervois, the %'s are easier.



Goldberg, alot of clubs get 4-5 recruits a year & more yet its their own fault if they can't keep them for the same period.
Jervois should be commended for their ability to keep players at the club & its not only money that keeps them there, their a very close knit bunch of blokes that stick together on & off the field which has resulted in premiership glory 4 years straight.
As far as the %'s are easier quote, what a joke, nothings easy, its the clubs ability to target the right character of players & make them happy with their surroundings ( clubrooms, team mates ), any club can do that if their smart.
You make it sound like its all been handed to Jervois on a silver platter which it hasn't, Richards & Mahoney have had alot to do with it.

isnt goldberg saying that you should be congratulated for recruiting such players NM??

you boys get a bit defensive whenever recruiting or player payments are spoken about... :wink:


I understand Goldberg is crediting Jervois with its recruiting but he's vertually questioning how they stick around for 4-5 yrs, he's saying the %s are easier for Jervois because of their number of recruits, they have no more than any other club in the comp. I'm just stating nothings handed to them on a silver platter, Its just Jervois know how to make players feel welcome, which has built an environment for WINNERS.
Alot out there are just waiting & hoping for Jervois to fall over, even if they have one bad year ( which they won't ) you can't say the writing was on the wall & the long term damage was done earlier by paying $$$, You can't tell me Imps & Co arn't paying the same amount of $$$ jervois are, its just some get so jealous of seeing others do it better than them (especially seeing Jervois winning 4 flags in a row) so they always look for excuses.
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby footyislife » Thu May 22, 2008 9:18 pm

NO-MERCY wrote:
floataboy wrote:
NO-MERCY wrote:
Goldberg wrote:Mahoney, Ewer, Rigney, Schmidt, maybe a couple more have probably been the best recruits of any club in the last 4 years. For 1 thing, they are all still there. How often do you get 4-5, 4-5year recruits at once. If there is 1 thing they get right, its that. Recruiting. However when you have as many as Jervois, the %'s are easier.



Goldberg, alot of clubs get 4-5 recruits a year & more yet its their own fault if they can't keep them for the same period.
Jervois should be commended for their ability to keep players at the club & its not only money that keeps them there, their a very close knit bunch of blokes that stick together on & off the field which has resulted in premiership glory 4 years straight.
As far as the %'s are easier quote, what a joke, nothings easy, its the clubs ability to target the right character of players & make them happy with their surroundings ( clubrooms, team mates ), any club can do that if their smart.
You make it sound like its all been handed to Jervois on a silver platter which it hasn't, Richards & Mahoney have had alot to do with it.

isnt goldberg saying that you should be congratulated for recruiting such players NM??
WELL SAID NM
you boys get a bit defensive whenever recruiting or player payments are spoken about... :wink:


I understand Goldberg is crediting Jervois with its recruiting but he's vertually questioning how they stick around for 4-5 yrs, he's saying the %s are easier for Jervois because of their number of recruits, they have no more than any other club in the comp. I'm just stating nothings handed to them on a silver platter, Its just Jervois know how to make players feel welcome, which has built an environment for WINNERS.
Alot out there are just waiting & hoping for Jervois to fall over, even if they have one bad year ( which they won't ) you can't say the writing was on the wall & the long term damage was done earlier by paying $$$, You can't tell me Imps & Co arn't paying the same amount of $$$ jervois are, its just some get so jealous of seeing others do it better than them (especially seeing Jervois winning 4 flags in a row) so they always look for excuses.
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby footyislife » Thu May 22, 2008 9:19 pm

WELL SAID NM
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby footyislife » Fri May 23, 2008 6:37 am

MYTIPS for this weekends footy IMPS to draw with the BLUDS ,MYPO over the bears bye 60pts, ROOSTERS to beat ROOS bye 30pts
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Goldberg » Fri May 23, 2008 1:05 pm

Not Questioning Jervois NM, Congratulating! I think your a little confused or maybe I wasn't clear enough. But saying the Bluds have the same amount of recruits as every other club in just plain wrong. Sorry, but thats the truth. Imps may be the only other team to rival you in that dept. Lets see!

Ewer 1
Schmidt 2
Mahony 3
Jacgodnick 4
Rigney 5
Rigney 6
Bayliss 7
Fraunfelter 8
Beard 9
Moller 10
Lyon 11
Stimpson?? 12
Fidge?? 13

Now I am saying you recruit well, But you also recruit big! There is also the fact that clubs like TBend & Jervois must recruit more players because they simply dont have the locals to fill sides anymore, but 11-13 recruits in 1 side is maybe 4 or 5 too many. Only my opinion
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Goldberg » Fri May 23, 2008 1:10 pm

Money isn't the issue, because I dont know a single club person, let alone a committee that would put winning in front of a clubs survival. Numbers is my only concern, with blokes like Crouch leaving because of this.
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Goldberg » Fri May 23, 2008 1:12 pm

Enough of that- Jervois over Imps 2 goal
Ramblers over Roos 5 goal
Mypo over Bears 7 goal if outs are correct for Tigers otherwise plenty
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Teflon_Coated » Fri May 23, 2008 1:19 pm

Goldberg wrote:Enough of that- Jervois over Imps 2 goal
Ramblers over Roos 5 goal
Mypo over Bears 7 goal if outs are correct for Tigers otherwise plenty


Seeing as though the Bluds drew with Imps in rounds 1 where are they playing this encounter?
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Goldberg » Fri May 23, 2008 1:27 pm

At Imps, Since then Trig has gone to FF. No one can match up on him. Its crazy what he can do
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby GWW » Fri May 23, 2008 1:46 pm

Goldberg wrote:Not Questioning Jervois NM, Congratulating! I think your a little confused or maybe I wasn't clear enough. But saying the Bluds have the same amount of recruits as every other club in just plain wrong. Sorry, but thats the truth. Imps may be the only other team to rival you in that dept. Lets see!

Ewer 1
Schmidt 2
Mahony 3
Jacgodnick 4
Rigney 5
Rigney 6
Bayliss 7
Fraunfelter 8
Beard 9
Moller 10
Lyon 11
Stimpson?? 12
Fidge?? 13

Now I am saying you recruit well, But you also recruit big! There is also the fact that clubs like TBend & Jervois must recruit more players because they simply dont have the locals to fill sides anymore, but 11-13 recruits in 1 side is maybe 4 or 5 too many. Only my opinion


I would tend to agree here Goldberg. The thing with Jervois over the last 5 or so years is that they've had a heap of recruits, and even before then they had quite a few but their success rate wasn't as high. I'm not close to Jervois' inner sanctum but i believe Stimpson and Fidge would both be classed as locals. But to me, the Bloods probably have about 3 or 4 outsiders than they really need...why would they need to recruit that Fraunfelter guy from SA when they already have Bayliss, Lyon, the Brauns etc. But yes good luck to them, they haven't done anything wrong, but do tend to recruit more than they really need to.

As for Imps, their recruits would be Girdham, Tonkin, Josh Charles, as well as Baillie, who has moved to the district, and Harrowfield and Puckridge who were recruited from outside the district but now live in Murray Bridge.
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Panther32 » Fri May 23, 2008 1:53 pm

Goldberg wrote:Not Questioning Jervois NM, Congratulating! I think your a little confused or maybe I wasn't clear enough. But saying the Bluds have the same amount of recruits as every other club in just plain wrong. Sorry, but thats the truth. Imps may be the only other team to rival you in that dept. Lets see!

Ewer 1
Schmidt 2
Mahony 3
Jacgodnick 4
Rigney 5
Rigney 6
Bayliss 7
Fraunfelter 8
Beard 9
Moller 10
Lyon 11
Stimpson?? 12
Fidge?? 13

Now I am saying you recruit well, But you also recruit big! There is also the fact that clubs like TBend & Jervois must recruit more players because they simply dont have the locals to fill sides anymore, but 11-13 recruits in 1 side is maybe 4 or 5 too many. Only my opinion

Your right except for Fidge is a local. The difference though is that these guys have been recruited over 4 years, not simply one and to the club and coaches credit they have all been retained. So if you want to compare apples with apples you would need to look at not just the current town players for the other teams but also the players who have been recruited and left meanwhile. Generally speaking most teams will recruit 3-4 players at least per year depending on what they need, some more if they have lost players. Take a look at some other teams and some have recuited that many in one year and i'm happy to provide examples! The team I played for last year recruited about 13 players in one year!
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Panther32 » Fri May 23, 2008 1:58 pm

GWW wrote:I would tend to agree here Goldberg. The thing with Jervois over the last 5 or so years is that they've had a heap of recruits, and even before then they had quite a few but their success rate wasn't as high. I'm not close to Jervois' inner sanctum but i believe Stimpson and Fidge would both be classed as locals. But to me, the Bloods probably have about 3 or 4 outsiders than they really need...why would they need to recruit that Fraunfelter guy from SA when they already have Bayliss, Lyon, the Brauns etc. But yes good luck to them, they haven't done anything wrong, but do tend to recruit more than they really need to.

As for Imps, their recruits would be Girdham, Tonkin, Josh Charles, as well as Baillie, who has moved to the district, and Harrowfield and Puckridge who were recruited from outside the district but now live in Murray Bridge.

Fraunfelter was signed up last year and wasn't really expected to play for the Bluds this year. When he decided he wanted to play it was a bit of a bonus for the club. It's not like they got to round 5 and decided to chase after his signature.
The rules allow each club to recruit a number of players per year based on points. If you have won the previous years GF and have since lost 3 players and have 12 points to play with, why not look at filling some gaps by recruiting some players? Most clubs are trying to recruit their potential as to match it with Jervois, so why can't Jervois recruit to stay at that level or try to get better? If other clubs are allowed to raise the bar, why can't the Bluds?
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby GWW » Fri May 23, 2008 2:03 pm

Goldberg wrote:Money isn't the issue, because I dont know a single club person, let alone a committee that would put winning in front of a clubs survival. Numbers is my only concern, with blokes like Crouch leaving because of this.


Did Crouch actually leave because of this? He was a regular A grader, i presumed he left because he wanted to play for a club in town due to living in Adelaide..
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Re: River Murray Football League talk

Postby Goldberg » Fri May 23, 2008 2:10 pm

Pretty sure Fidge came from the Mallee to Jervois.

As for raising the Bar, thats great but if Teams Keep getting 3 guys a year whilst retaining last years crop (which is what you want to do as a club) not long before the team has 13 recruits which is simply too many!
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