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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Ash Man » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:00 pm

Mythical Creature wrote:As it stands if a side is more than 10 goals up at either 1/2 or 3/4 time then the game is called and the margin is altered to make the difference no more than 10 goals in the scorebook. The umpires & coaches of both teams then pick the best 3 or 4 players from the leading team and those players must play for the opposition to even the teams out. If these players refuse then I am of the understanding that the club gets fined.

It is the same in the Junior Colts except the margin is 8 goals.


How do these rules prepare these kids for the hard knocks they will find in later life?
Too many do gooders trying to baby these kids so they dont get their feelings hurt
Wait til they enter the real world..
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Hazbeen » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:14 am

The Rooster wrote:This topic is heating up!! :lol:

Sherrin 1
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Balfours 0
Vili's 1

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Blonde's 1
Brunettes 1 :shock: That's a tougher choice!


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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:07 am

The new mercy rule introduced into the APFL this season for the U17s and U14s is ridiculous, anti player development, knee jerk, unworkable, standard reducing and will not have the desired outcome in my opinion (if anyone can work out why it is needed). The U17s is the final stage of junior player development before stepping up to senior football and players, coaches , APFL and clubs at this stage should be concentrating on developing their football.

I agree football is tribal and the vast majority of footballers rebel when they are asked to put on an opposition guernsey - if anyone thinks that it is an easy task to convince your best footballer that he now has to play for the opposition for the rest of the game then they obviously have never coached or have any idea of the notion of a team and its goals. The rule is shifting the focus from all clubs ' ensuring there are enough players to field a side ' , to making the better players play for the opposition. I cannot see how this will help the competition, why would a Mallala U17 want (or even be made) to play for United, why would a Virginia kid want to play for Two Wells, why would a Balaklava kid want to play for Hummocks and vice versa. Now with this rule, if a club looks like not having enough players there is no reason for them to even try to find good players or better numbers - now the pressure is placed on the more successful clubs for the particular season and their better players. The better served clubs who have no player problems now have the problem of managing the changing of sides if they are good enough to be 10 goals in front.

The rule will bring the overall standard down because there is no encouragement for the players to push themselves or improve - "if you play too well you will be rewarded with an opposition guernsey for the next quarter" - some encouragement I don't think. Players at U17 are not stupid - I would almost guarentee that most knowing the rule will pull back to ensure the criteria is not met to trigger the rule. The primary school system years ago brought in the notions of "no scoring" to sport and other non-competitive ideas - these non-competitive ideas need to stay in the schools, the APFL needs to behave as a true FL and aim to develop and require exellence in their clubs - this rule is encouraging quite the opposite. What will happen in a few years if a few B Grade sides are getting thumped, will the do gooders in the league want to bring in a similar rule - I hope not.

To be honest, getting beaten by 10 goals or more has never hurt anyone. Those players that are fringe types and who are not willing to improve themselves in all honesty wont be there next year anyway. I have seen kids come through the underage systems who are good players but chose not to continue to senior level, but I have seen many many more that no matter what you put inplace for them don't continue on either. I am still failing to see how this system will encourage players to continue with their football past the current year. Life can be a bit tough, too bad, there will be times that your side will get pumped by 10 or more goals - THATS Football.

What happens if one of the players asked to swap sides gets hurt? What happens if one of the better players was only to play a half and then come off to play in the A grade - is there a fine to be paid? What happens if there is a howling gale and a side gets 10 up (breeze can blow up after a game starts)? No chance to come back, no chance for a coach to see how he can get better results out of his players, no chance to have something to build on. What happens if one of the better players in the U17s is that miffed that he does not try when playing for the other side? What happens to that lad's chance at winning an association medal? What happens if these better players get that upset they NO LONGER want to play - is this what the league wants? Turn off the good players? I can see the BL&GFL benefitting more from this rule as the better players move across to a commonsense competition.

This rule needs to be recinded immediately, those clubs that voted for it need to sit down and analyse why they voted for it and what it will do to help them and what it is doing for their U17s. Those clubs that are having trouble finding enough numbers need to have the pressure put on by the APFL to get enough numbers and be competitive - not have ridiculous rules put in place to pamper them. The APFL Junior comittee needs to sit down with the Directors and re-visit this rule immediately. Surely commonsense must prevail and it is removed post haste.

Over the past 2 months I have discussed this rule with many people from many clubs (in and out of the APFL) and have not yet come across a single person who thinks the rule is a good idea, some of the amazed looks on the faces of lifelong football people is a real reflection on the rule. How did it get up is perhaps an even more important question.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Swamp Donkey » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:10 am

are you sure about that jumbo?

Lets hope the A grade games from last weekend get more coverage in the producer this week.

I think we're in for a cracker year any way.

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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Drop Bear » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:33 am

The Rooster wrote:This topic is heating up!! :lol:

Sherrin 1
Burley 0

Balfours 0
Vili's 1

West End 0
Coopers 1

Blonde's 1
Brunettes 1 :shock: That's a tougher choice!


Blonde's 1
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Sherrin's all the way!
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby pint of ale? » Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:39 am

Sherrin

Villi's

COOPERS!!!

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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby Drop Bear » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:21 pm

pint of ale? wrote:COOPERS!!!


Who would have guessed!
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby pint of ale? » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:35 pm

Drop Bear wrote:
pint of ale? wrote:COOPERS!!!


Who would have guessed!

You seemed to be enjoying those icy cold cooper's yourself on saturday arvo Droppie. Gone into early retirement have we?
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:41 pm

jumbo wrote:The new mercy rule introduced into the APFL this season for the U17s and U14s is ridiculous, anti player development, knee jerk, unworkable, standard reducing and will not have the desired outcome in my opinion (if anyone can work out why it is needed). The U17s is the final stage of junior player development before stepping up to senior football and players, coaches , APFL and clubs at this stage should be concentrating on developing their football.

I agree football is tribal and the vast majority of footballers rebel when they are asked to put on an opposition guernsey - if anyone thinks that it is an easy task to convince your best footballer that he now has to play for the opposition for the rest of the game then they obviously have never coached or have any idea of the notion of a team and its goals. The rule is shifting the focus from all clubs ' ensuring there are enough players to field a side ' , to making the better players play for the opposition. I cannot see how this will help the competition, why would a Mallala U17 want (or even be made) to play for United, why would a Virginia kid want to play for Two Wells, why would a Balaklava kid want to play for Hummocks and vice versa. Now with this rule, if a club looks like not having enough players there is no reason for them to even try to find good players or better numbers - now the pressure is placed on the more successful clubs for the particular season and their better players. The better served clubs who have no player problems now have the problem of managing the changing of sides if they are good enough to be 10 goals in front.

The rule will bring the overall standard down because there is no encouragement for the players to push themselves or improve - "if you play too well you will be rewarded with an opposition guernsey for the next quarter" - some encouragement I don't think. Players at U17 are not stupid - I would almost guarentee that most knowing the rule will pull back to ensure the criteria is not met to trigger the rule. The primary school system years ago brought in the notions of "no scoring" to sport and other non-competitive ideas - these non-competitive ideas need to stay in the schools, the APFL needs to behave as a true FL and aim to develop and require exellence in their clubs - this rule is encouraging quite the opposite. What will happen in a few years if a few B Grade sides are getting thumped, will the do gooders in the league want to bring in a similar rule - I hope not.

To be honest, getting beaten by 10 goals or more has never hurt anyone. Those players that are fringe types and who are not willing to improve themselves in all honesty wont be there next year anyway. I have seen kids come through the underage systems who are good players but chose not to continue to senior level, but I have seen many many more that no matter what you put inplace for them don't continue on either. I am still failing to see how this system will encourage players to continue with their football past the current year. Life can be a bit tough, too bad, there will be times that your side will get pumped by 10 or more goals - THATS Football.

What happens if one of the players asked to swap sides gets hurt? What happens if one of the better players was only to play a half and then come off to play in the A grade - is there a fine to be paid? What happens if there is a howling gale and a side gets 10 up (breeze can blow up after a game starts)? No chance to come back, no chance for a coach to see how he can get better results out of his players, no chance to have something to build on. What happens if one of the better players in the U17s is that miffed that he does not try when playing for the other side? What happens to that lad's chance at winning an association medal? What happens if these better players get that upset they NO LONGER want to play - is this what the league wants? Turn off the good players? I can see the BL&GFL benefitting more from this rule as the better players move across to a commonsense competition.

This rule needs to be recinded immediately, those clubs that voted for it need to sit down and analyse why they voted for it and what it will do to help them and what it is doing for their U17s. Those clubs that are having trouble finding enough numbers need to have the pressure put on by the APFL to get enough numbers and be competitive - not have ridiculous rules put in place to pamper them. The APFL Junior comittee needs to sit down with the Directors and re-visit this rule immediately. Surely commonsense must prevail and it is removed post haste.

Over the past 2 months I have discussed this rule with many people from many clubs (in and out of the APFL) and have not yet come across a single person who thinks the rule is a good idea, some of the amazed looks on the faces of lifelong football people is a real reflection on the rule. How did it get up is perhaps an even more important question.


i reckon a virginia kid would love to play for two wells, coz then he'll be part of a winning team.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby twogood4u » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:54 pm

jumbo wrote:The new mercy rule introduced into the APFL this season for the U17s and U14s is ridiculous, anti player development, knee jerk, unworkable, standard reducing and will not have the desired outcome in my opinion (if anyone can work out why it is needed). The U17s is the final stage of junior player development before stepping up to senior football and players, coaches , APFL and clubs at this stage should be concentrating on developing their football.

I agree football is tribal and the vast majority of footballers rebel when they are asked to put on an opposition guernsey - if anyone thinks that it is an easy task to convince your best footballer that he now has to play for the opposition for the rest of the game then they obviously have never coached or have any idea of the notion of a team and its goals. The rule is shifting the focus from all clubs ' ensuring there are enough players to field a side ' , to making the better players play for the opposition. I cannot see how this will help the competition, why would a Mallala U17 want (or even be made) to play for United, why would a Virginia kid want to play for Two Wells, why would a Balaklava kid want to play for Hummocks and vice versa. Now with this rule, if a club looks like not having enough players there is no reason for them to even try to find good players or better numbers - now the pressure is placed on the more successful clubs for the particular season and their better players. The better served clubs who have no player problems now have the problem of managing the changing of sides if they are good enough to be 10 goals in front.

The rule will bring the overall standard down because there is no encouragement for the players to push themselves or improve - "if you play too well you will be rewarded with an opposition guernsey for the next quarter" - some encouragement I don't think. Players at U17 are not stupid - I would almost guarentee that most knowing the rule will pull back to ensure the criteria is not met to trigger the rule. The primary school system years ago brought in the notions of "no scoring" to sport and other non-competitive ideas - these non-competitive ideas need to stay in the schools, the APFL needs to behave as a true FL and aim to develop and require exellence in their clubs - this rule is encouraging quite the opposite. What will happen in a few years if a few B Grade sides are getting thumped, will the do gooders in the league want to bring in a similar rule - I hope not.

To be honest, getting beaten by 10 goals or more has never hurt anyone. Those players that are fringe types and who are not willing to improve themselves in all honesty wont be there next year anyway. I have seen kids come through the underage systems who are good players but chose not to continue to senior level, but I have seen many many more that no matter what you put inplace for them don't continue on either. I am still failing to see how this system will encourage players to continue with their football past the current year. Life can be a bit tough, too bad, there will be times that your side will get pumped by 10 or more goals - THATS Football.

What happens if one of the players asked to swap sides gets hurt? What happens if one of the better players was only to play a half and then come off to play in the A grade - is there a fine to be paid? What happens if there is a howling gale and a side gets 10 up (breeze can blow up after a game starts)? No chance to come back, no chance for a coach to see how he can get better results out of his players, no chance to have something to build on. What happens if one of the better players in the U17s is that miffed that he does not try when playing for the other side? What happens to that lad's chance at winning an association medal? What happens if these better players get that upset they NO LONGER want to play - is this what the league wants? Turn off the good players? I can see the BL&GFL benefitting more from this rule as the better players move across to a commonsense competition.

This rule needs to be recinded immediately, those clubs that voted for it need to sit down and analyse why they voted for it and what it will do to help them and what it is doing for their U17s. Those clubs that are having trouble finding enough numbers need to have the pressure put on by the APFL to get enough numbers and be competitive - not have ridiculous rules put in place to pamper them. The APFL Junior comittee needs to sit down with the Directors and re-visit this rule immediately. Surely commonsense must prevail and it is removed post haste.

Over the past 2 months I have discussed this rule with many people from many clubs (in and out of the APFL) and have not yet come across a single person who thinks the rule is a good idea, some of the amazed looks on the faces of lifelong football people is a real reflection on the rule. How did it get up is perhaps an even more important question.
SPOT ON jimbo, COMMONSENSE APFL! don't think so jimbo.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby twogood4u » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:55 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:are you sure about that jumbo?

Lets hope the A grade games from last weekend get more coverage in the producer this week.

I think we're in for a cracker year any way.

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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby twogood4u » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:58 pm

mighty hounds wrote:
jumbo wrote:The new mercy rule introduced into the APFL this season for the U17s and U14s is ridiculous, anti player development, knee jerk, unworkable, standard reducing and will not have the desired outcome in my opinion (if anyone can work out why it is needed). The U17s is the final stage of junior player development before stepping up to senior football and players, coaches , APFL and clubs at this stage should be concentrating on developing their football.

I agree football is tribal and the vast majority of footballers rebel when they are asked to put on an opposition guernsey - if anyone thinks that it is an easy task to convince your best footballer that he now has to play for the opposition for the rest of the game then they obviously have never coached or have any idea of the notion of a team and its goals. The rule is shifting the focus from all clubs ' ensuring there are enough players to field a side ' , to making the better players play for the opposition. I cannot see how this will help the competition, why would a Mallala U17 want (or even be made) to play for United, why would a Virginia kid want to play for Two Wells, why would a Balaklava kid want to play for Hummocks and vice versa. Now with this rule, if a club looks like not having enough players there is no reason for them to even try to find good players or better numbers - now the pressure is placed on the more successful clubs for the particular season and their better players. The better served clubs who have no player problems now have the problem of managing the changing of sides if they are good enough to be 10 goals in front.

The rule will bring the overall standard down because there is no encouragement for the players to push themselves or improve - "if you play too well you will be rewarded with an opposition guernsey for the next quarter" - some encouragement I don't think. Players at U17 are not stupid - I would almost guarentee that most knowing the rule will pull back to ensure the criteria is not met to trigger the rule. The primary school system years ago brought in the notions of "no scoring" to sport and other non-competitive ideas - these non-competitive ideas need to stay in the schools, the APFL needs to behave as a true FL and aim to develop and require exellence in their clubs - this rule is encouraging quite the opposite. What will happen in a few years if a few B Grade sides are getting thumped, will the do gooders in the league want to bring in a similar rule - I hope not.

To be honest, getting beaten by 10 goals or more has never hurt anyone. Those players that are fringe types and who are not willing to improve themselves in all honesty wont be there next year anyway. I have seen kids come through the underage systems who are good players but chose not to continue to senior level, but I have seen many many more that no matter what you put inplace for them don't continue on either. I am still failing to see how this system will encourage players to continue with their football past the current year. Life can be a bit tough, too bad, there will be times that your side will get pumped by 10 or more goals - THATS Football.

What happens if one of the players asked to swap sides gets hurt? What happens if one of the better players was only to play a half and then come off to play in the A grade - is there a fine to be paid? What happens if there is a howling gale and a side gets 10 up (breeze can blow up after a game starts)? No chance to come back, no chance for a coach to see how he can get better results out of his players, no chance to have something to build on. What happens if one of the better players in the U17s is that miffed that he does not try when playing for the other side? What happens to that lad's chance at winning an association medal? What happens if these better players get that upset they NO LONGER want to play - is this what the league wants? Turn off the good players? I can see the BL&GFL benefitting more from this rule as the better players move across to a commonsense competition.

This rule needs to be recinded immediately, those clubs that voted for it need to sit down and analyse why they voted for it and what it will do to help them and what it is doing for their U17s. Those clubs that are having trouble finding enough numbers need to have the pressure put on by the APFL to get enough numbers and be competitive - not have ridiculous rules put in place to pamper them. The APFL Junior comittee needs to sit down with the Directors and re-visit this rule immediately. Surely commonsense must prevail and it is removed post haste.

Over the past 2 months I have discussed this rule with many people from many clubs (in and out of the APFL) and have not yet come across a single person who thinks the rule is a good idea, some of the amazed looks on the faces of lifelong football people is a real reflection on the rule. How did it get up is perhaps an even more important question.


i reckon a virginia kid would love to play for two wells, coz then he'll be part of a winning team.
so what is the reason for the lack of success in the A's
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby mighty hounds » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:10 pm

twogood4u wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
jumbo wrote:The new mercy rule introduced into the APFL this season for the U17s and U14s is ridiculous, anti player development, knee jerk, unworkable, standard reducing and will not have the desired outcome in my opinion (if anyone can work out why it is needed). The U17s is the final stage of junior player development before stepping up to senior football and players, coaches , APFL and clubs at this stage should be concentrating on developing their football.

I agree football is tribal and the vast majority of footballers rebel when they are asked to put on an opposition guernsey - if anyone thinks that it is an easy task to convince your best footballer that he now has to play for the opposition for the rest of the game then they obviously have never coached or have any idea of the notion of a team and its goals. The rule is shifting the focus from all clubs ' ensuring there are enough players to field a side ' , to making the better players play for the opposition. I cannot see how this will help the competition, why would a Mallala U17 want (or even be made) to play for United, why would a Virginia kid want to play for Two Wells, why would a Balaklava kid want to play for Hummocks and vice versa. Now with this rule, if a club looks like not having enough players there is no reason for them to even try to find good players or better numbers - now the pressure is placed on the more successful clubs for the particular season and their better players. The better served clubs who have no player problems now have the problem of managing the changing of sides if they are good enough to be 10 goals in front.

The rule will bring the overall standard down because there is no encouragement for the players to push themselves or improve - "if you play too well you will be rewarded with an opposition guernsey for the next quarter" - some encouragement I don't think. Players at U17 are not stupid - I would almost guarentee that most knowing the rule will pull back to ensure the criteria is not met to trigger the rule. The primary school system years ago brought in the notions of "no scoring" to sport and other non-competitive ideas - these non-competitive ideas need to stay in the schools, the APFL needs to behave as a true FL and aim to develop and require exellence in their clubs - this rule is encouraging quite the opposite. What will happen in a few years if a few B Grade sides are getting thumped, will the do gooders in the league want to bring in a similar rule - I hope not.

To be honest, getting beaten by 10 goals or more has never hurt anyone. Those players that are fringe types and who are not willing to improve themselves in all honesty wont be there next year anyway. I have seen kids come through the underage systems who are good players but chose not to continue to senior level, but I have seen many many more that no matter what you put inplace for them don't continue on either. I am still failing to see how this system will encourage players to continue with their football past the current year. Life can be a bit tough, too bad, there will be times that your side will get pumped by 10 or more goals - THATS Football.

What happens if one of the players asked to swap sides gets hurt? What happens if one of the better players was only to play a half and then come off to play in the A grade - is there a fine to be paid? What happens if there is a howling gale and a side gets 10 up (breeze can blow up after a game starts)? No chance to come back, no chance for a coach to see how he can get better results out of his players, no chance to have something to build on. What happens if one of the better players in the U17s is that miffed that he does not try when playing for the other side? What happens to that lad's chance at winning an association medal? What happens if these better players get that upset they NO LONGER want to play - is this what the league wants? Turn off the good players? I can see the BL&GFL benefitting more from this rule as the better players move across to a commonsense competition.

This rule needs to be recinded immediately, those clubs that voted for it need to sit down and analyse why they voted for it and what it will do to help them and what it is doing for their U17s. Those clubs that are having trouble finding enough numbers need to have the pressure put on by the APFL to get enough numbers and be competitive - not have ridiculous rules put in place to pamper them. The APFL Junior comittee needs to sit down with the Directors and re-visit this rule immediately. Surely commonsense must prevail and it is removed post haste.

Over the past 2 months I have discussed this rule with many people from many clubs (in and out of the APFL) and have not yet come across a single person who thinks the rule is a good idea, some of the amazed looks on the faces of lifelong football people is a real reflection on the rule. How did it get up is perhaps an even more important question.


i reckon a virginia kid would love to play for two wells, coz then he'll be part of a winning team.
so what is the reason for the lack of success in the A's


we were talking about the unders 17's not the A grade, but if u want to know then i'll try my hardest. i would say it was a lack of juniors coming through that continued to seniors, but most of the kids from the premierhsips from 02,04,05 have stayed and things are starting to turn and theres been some good recruiting so dont be surprised if they make the granny
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby twogood4u » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:50 pm

two wells have had more kids go through there than boy's town! :shock: :lol: how many years do they need to mature as footballers?5 maybe 10 years? :oops:
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby twogood4u » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:57 pm

mighty hounds wrote:
twogood4u wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
jumbo wrote:The new mercy rule introduced into the APFL this season for the U17s and U14s is ridiculous, anti player development, knee jerk, unworkable, standard reducing and will not have the desired outcome in my opinion (if anyone can work out why it is needed). The U17s is the final stage of junior player development before stepping up to senior football and players, coaches , APFL and clubs at this stage should be concentrating on developing their football.

I agree football is tribal and the vast majority of footballers rebel when they are asked to put on an opposition guernsey - if anyone thinks that it is an easy task to convince your best footballer that he now has to play for the opposition for the rest of the game then they obviously have never coached or have any idea of the notion of a team and its goals. The rule is shifting the focus from all clubs ' ensuring there are enough players to field a side ' , to making the better players play for the opposition. I cannot see how this will help the competition, why would a Mallala U17 want (or even be made) to play for United, why would a Virginia kid want to play for Two Wells, why would a Balaklava kid want to play for Hummocks and vice versa. Now with this rule, if a club looks like not having enough players there is no reason for them to even try to find good players or better numbers - now the pressure is placed on the more successful clubs for the particular season and their better players. The better served clubs who have no player problems now have the problem of managing the changing of sides if they are good enough to be 10 goals in front.

The rule will bring the overall standard down because there is no encouragement for the players to push themselves or improve - "if you play too well you will be rewarded with an opposition guernsey for the next quarter" - some encouragement I don't think. Players at U17 are not stupid - I would almost guarentee that most knowing the rule will pull back to ensure the criteria is not met to trigger the rule. The primary school system years ago brought in the notions of "no scoring" to sport and other non-competitive ideas - these non-competitive ideas need to stay in the schools, the APFL needs to behave as a true FL and aim to develop and require exellence in their clubs - this rule is encouraging quite the opposite. What will happen in a few years if a few B Grade sides are getting thumped, will the do gooders in the league want to bring in a similar rule - I hope not.

To be honest, getting beaten by 10 goals or more has never hurt anyone. Those players that are fringe types and who are not willing to improve themselves in all honesty wont be there next year anyway. I have seen kids come through the underage systems who are good players but chose not to continue to senior level, but I have seen many many more that no matter what you put inplace for them don't continue on either. I am still failing to see how this system will encourage players to continue with their football past the current year. Life can be a bit tough, too bad, there will be times that your side will get pumped by 10 or more goals - THATS Football.

What happens if one of the players asked to swap sides gets hurt? What happens if one of the better players was only to play a half and then come off to play in the A grade - is there a fine to be paid? What happens if there is a howling gale and a side gets 10 up (breeze can blow up after a game starts)? No chance to come back, no chance for a coach to see how he can get better results out of his players, no chance to have something to build on. What happens if one of the better players in the U17s is that miffed that he does not try when playing for the other side? What happens to that lad's chance at winning an association medal? What happens if these better players get that upset they NO LONGER want to play - is this what the league wants? Turn off the good players? I can see the BL&GFL benefitting more from this rule as the better players move across to a commonsense competition.

This rule needs to be recinded immediately, those clubs that voted for it need to sit down and analyse why they voted for it and what it will do to help them and what it is doing for their U17s. Those clubs that are having trouble finding enough numbers need to have the pressure put on by the APFL to get enough numbers and be competitive - not have ridiculous rules put in place to pamper them. The APFL Junior comittee needs to sit down with the Directors and re-visit this rule immediately. Surely commonsense must prevail and it is removed post haste.

Over the past 2 months I have discussed this rule with many people from many clubs (in and out of the APFL) and have not yet come across a single person who thinks the rule is a good idea, some of the amazed looks on the faces of lifelong football people is a real reflection on the rule. How did it get up is perhaps an even more important question.


i reckon a virginia kid would love to play for two wells, coz then he'll be part of a winning team.
so what is the reason for the lack of success in the A's


we were talking about the unders 17's not the A grade, but if u want to know then i'll try my hardest. i would say it was a lack of juniors coming through that continued to seniors, but most of the kids from the premierhsips from 02,04,05 have stayed and things are starting to turn and theres been some good recruiting so dont be surprised if they make the granny
02 was the year the last quater went 27minute 30 second :shock: (15+ time on!) and the only time TW hit the leed was at the 27 minute mark to win the flag.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby jumbo » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:57 pm

Swamp Donkey wrote:are you sure about that jumbo?

Lets hope the A grade games from last weekend get more coverage in the producer this week.

I think we're in for a cracker year any way.

Did Ricky O play sat?


You probably get the impression that I am not a fan of that draconian bylaw!!
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Rooster » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:01 pm

Hazbeen wrote:
The Rooster wrote:This topic is heating up!! :lol:

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Brunettes 1 :shock: That's a tougher choice!


Let's not leave red heads out of the question, nothing like a nice ginge minge for a bit of variety.



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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:12 pm

jumbo wrote:You probably get the impression that I am not a fan of that draconian bylaw!!


Draconian? Bit rich there mate. There used to be a mercy rule in basketball on the plains too. Maybe the committees have switched over.

While I may not agree with the rule at least people are turning their attention to the difference between the top and bottom junior teams.

Losing may build character but so does playing for the other side. You'd soon find out who the mature players were when asking them to put the oppositions jumper on. I remember a young Nathan Young pulling on the Pt Wakefield jumper before the merger. He was the dominant force in colts footy at the time and played a cracker of a game.

By all means bag the rule but recognise the problem and maybe even give some possibe solutions.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Rooster » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:14 pm

Probably important to remember that footy has been played in the country for over a hundred years and in that time there would have been countless drubbings suffered by many a junior side.

Football at juniour level is not always about winning, it's about having some fun, and i can concede that a kid that is only lukewarm about playing, will put his boots back in the shed if he is looking down the barrel of a twenty goal hiding, we need to keep our hands out of all these rule changes and tampering with all that is great about having a kick and a catch on a saturday.

If i remember my junior footy, through to U17's i know there isn't too many premierships, but there was a hell of a lot of fun, regardless of the score. Football shoudn't be so serious for these lad's.

i can almost guarantee that if i drove my son to the footy to support him and he had to don the guernsey of the opposition and therefore play footy against his mates and the lads that he goes to school with/trains with i would be ropeable. No-one can tell for certain when a good crop of kids will come through, it just happens sometimes and in saying that, the same is true for the opposite and you should not punish anyone for something so out of the hands of man.
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Re: aDELAIDE Plains Football League

Postby The Big Shrek » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:37 pm

The Rooster wrote:Football shoudn't be so serious for these lad's.

i can almost guarantee that if i drove my son to the footy to support him and he had to don the guernsey of the opposition and therefore play footy against his mates and the lads that he goes to school with/trains with i would be ropeable.


Not serious but you'd be ropeable if your son played for the opposite team?

I played colts for Hummocks and was thrashed many a time but also won a couple of premierships. For us it wasn't so much about the quality of the kids but the age distribution in the team. We may have had a team with 4 seventeen year olds against a team that had 15. I don't begrudge those thrashings and I learnt how to lose very well, but I wouldn't have minded playing some more competitive footy against the better teams.

Kids in those teams don't get the chance to improve their skills as much and the good teams don't get good opposition. Changing teams is a good way for some kids/parents to learn some humility and get to know new people.
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