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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby lovetotalkfooty » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:30 pm

Bob Loblaw wrote:
lovetotalkfooty wrote:one name Adam Bosworth

currently playing D Grade? tell us a bit about him



joined the airforce about 3 or 4 years ago and lost a bit of passion for the game after a stint in england. He has represented the ADF in england and was there standout player. I know he is keento have a massive pre season and really see if he can become a player that he believes he can be. I believe the type of player that the higher grade he plays the more he looks to belong. Sometimes it harder to play lower grades and do well. By the way i am not his agent just a keen observer 8)
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby heater31 » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:15 am

FFS SACA PULL YOUR FINGER OUT :evil: :evil: :evil:


negotiations on a contract extension have stalled with all rounder Ryan Harris. is now reoprted to be talking to at least 2 other states one of which is WA.


if Ryan leaves this state then expect at least one less paid up member next season and I am serious
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby stan » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:04 pm

heater31 wrote:FFS SACA PULL YOUR FINGER OUT :evil: :evil: :evil:


negotiations on a contract extension have stalled with all rounder Ryan Harris. is now reoprted to be talking to at least 2 other states one of which is WA.


if Ryan leaves this state then expect at least one less paid up member next season and I am serious


This isnt actually serious is it?
God we are in trouble, Why the hell would contract extensions stall with the only player that actually played well enought to hold his spot. Not good.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby Shark_Hunter » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:06 pm

MightyEagles wrote:I agree with having less district teams. Merge them if you have to I say. eg Uni with Adelaide, Woodville with West Torrens. Then align them with a SANFL club, so they can use such things as weights and club rooms and the like. Less teams = the better players compete for spots in a team.
Look at the Aussie team, they come from 6 teams, not 13 or how many teams we have. Which is why Australia is so good and that the first class comp is the best in the world.


A few years ago the SACA were trying to get all grade clubs away from SANFL ovals due to the substandard pitches and slow outfields. Also issues with sharing of facilities at the start and end of seasons. I don't know if this is still on their agenda or not?!?

Woodville had the chance to pursue a merger with WT some 6-7 years ago and knocked it back. All credit to them for making the A grade GF this season but they must be thinking they perhaps missed a chance to become a 'superclub' with the outstanding performances from the Eagles throughout the grades (including juniors) over the past 4-5 years. Uni and Adelaide merging would make sense but is unlikely to happen. Perhaps given recent results, teams like TTG & East Torrens, Prospect and Port should be looking to merge to strengthen the comp????
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby sasquatch » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:42 pm

I'll just say that next year, SA are going to be faced with trying to DRAW matches, not to win them, from the first ball of the match....
And they're more than likely going to fail that...
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:25 pm

A few years ago, we would have felt great about finishing above Queensland. We managed that this year and yet all the talk is doom and gloom. Stop the pessimism - things are improving!

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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby GWW » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:44 pm

bulldogproud wrote:A few years ago, we would have felt great about finishing above Queensland. We managed that this year and yet all the talk is doom and gloom. Stop the pessimism - things are improving!

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Yes but we essentially got our points through the performances of Lehmann and Gillespie and neither are there any more.

Queensland would have a considerably better future than us, i think we've got reason to be pessimistic until big changes are made.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:51 pm

We have been more successful at under age carnivals in recent times than have Queensland. I think the future is not looking too bad for SA. One of the problems though is that we are refusing to offer contracts of more than one year. This is seeing players leave for interstate. Trent Kelly left last year for WA and Ryan Harris looks like doing the same.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby stan » Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:56 pm

For the population of Adelaide we have too many district teams. Hence why people are pointing the finger at the district comp. Something sensible needs to happen in the way of teams. TTG and East Torrens merging for one should be looked at. Uni needs to be looked at. Do they offer something to the district comp? A merger with Adelaid should be a minimum for that club.

If none of the above happens due to the same old shite that normally confronts us. Then Split the comp into 2 Divisions.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby heater31 » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:27 pm

stan wrote:For the population of Adelaide we have too many district teams. Hence why people are pointing the finger at the district comp. Something sensible needs to happen in the way of teams. TTG and East Torrens merging for one should be looked at. Uni needs to be looked at. Do they offer something to the district comp? A merger with Adelaid should be a minimum for that club.

If none of the above happens due to the same old shite that normally confronts us. Then Split the comp into 2 Divisions.



Why should The Adelaide Cricket Club merge with University? The Buffalos have been successful in recent years with participation in finals in both forms of the game. the lower grades are always in finals contention most seasons and have worked extremely hard to establish their current home ground which is Glandore oval some 8km away from the city. In fact it would be a better idea to merge with Prospect CC as they are closer to University Oval than Adelaide CC currently is.


anyway back to the too many clubs problem :x Perth has a similar head of population yet they can sustain 3 more cricket sides than us. before we race ahead and rip the grade comp to shreds as BP said the junior sides are starting to get results and in theory this should have a flow on effect (as long as the SACA dont F**k it up :roll: ). Also the SACA should also get its own house in order before becoming the Judge, Jury and Executioner for the Grade Competition.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:29 pm

The strange thing is that we had more success when we had more district teams. Besides, WA has more teams and are far more successful than we are.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby stan » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:46 pm

heater31 wrote:
stan wrote:For the population of Adelaide we have too many district teams. Hence why people are pointing the finger at the district comp. Something sensible needs to happen in the way of teams. TTG and East Torrens merging for one should be looked at. Uni needs to be looked at. Do they offer something to the district comp? A merger with Adelaid should be a minimum for that club.

If none of the above happens due to the same old shite that normally confronts us. Then Split the comp into 2 Divisions.



Why should The Adelaide Cricket Club merge with University? The Buffalos have been successful in recent years with participation in finals in both forms of the game. the lower grades are always in finals contention most seasons and have worked extremely hard to establish their current home ground which is Glandore oval some 8km away from the city. In fact it would be a better idea to merge with Prospect CC as they are closer to University Oval than Adelaide CC currently is.


anyway back to the too many clubs problem :x Perth has a similar head of population yet they can sustain 3 more cricket sides than us. before we race ahead and rip the grade comp to shreds as BP said the junior sides are starting to get results and in theory this should have a flow on effect (as long as the SACA dont F**k it up :roll: ). Also the SACA should also get its own house in order before becoming the Judge, Jury and Executioner for the Grade Competition.


Perth is bigger than adelaide and growing at a larger rate. Also there state side IS NOT SHITE.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:23 pm

Stan, that is exactly the point that we are making though. Perth have more sides, even on a per capita basis allowing for their slightly higher population, yet are able to produce a good side. Therefore, it is not the number of sides in our district comp that is a problem. It is perhaps moreso that the selectors seem to turn a blind eye to performance in the Grade competition. Ryan Harris would have been in the side a lot earlier had they paid attention to it. Also, players like Tom Plant, Gary Putland, Wes Thomas and Luke Williams would have been given opportunities. Go back a few years and Brett Swain and Ben Hook would have been given more opportunities. Perhaps if the selectors paid more attention to form in the district comp...
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:24 pm

By the way, we will never get rid of the Adelaide University Cricket Club. They have too much wealth and power behind them for that to happen.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby stan » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:27 pm

bulldogproud wrote:Stan, that is exactly the point that we are making though. Perth have more sides, even on a per capita basis allowing for their slightly higher population, yet are able to produce a good side. Therefore, it is not the number of sides in our district comp that is a problem. It is perhaps moreso that the selectors seem to turn a blind eye to performance in the Grade competition. Ryan Harris would have been in the side a lot earlier had they paid attention to it. Also, players like Tom Plant, Gary Putland, Wes Thomas and Luke Williams would have been given opportunities. Go back a few years and Brett Swain and Ben Hook would have been given more opportunities. Perhaps if the selectors paid more attention to form in the district comp...
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That is a good point. We need to look at why our batting is so brittle. I mean a slight wind and walls down like a stack of cards.

Still WA have had some good players go through there ranks.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:31 pm

So have South Australia - we just don't tend to pick them. Personally, I would have Wes Thomas, Chad Sayers, Gary Putland and Tom Plant in our team.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby stan » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:32 pm

bulldogproud wrote:So have South Australia - we just don't tend to pick them. Personally, I would have Wes Thomas, Chad Sayers, Gary Putland and Tom Plant in our team.
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What would be your team for next season.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:46 pm

Too early to call. There could be a fair few player movements between now and then. Also, some young players may show some form and get a placement. These could include Isaiah Borgas, James Smith and Michael Cranmer.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby Zulu » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:50 pm

bulldogproud, do you have any examples of the wealth and power behind the AUCC?

They were one of the most successful clubs in the 1990's, and have had a string of state representatives (and 2 test players) in their playing ranks since that time. I think they have just as much right to be involved in the grade competition as any other club, especially some of the underperforming ones.
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Re: Redbacks next season

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:52 pm

Zulu, the difference with Adelaide University is that they do not have a Junior setup. Being university based, they do not have to develop young players like every other club does. Instead, they pinch the young players after the other clubs have developed them.
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