Redbacks next season

[ca]

The Redbacks have been nothing short of pathetic this year. One positive for me was Ryan Harris who I have to say I didn’t think was a first class bowler but he proved me wrong. I liked the way he went about his batting and fielding, he just always seemed to be giving it his all.

I thought Mark Cleary took what small chances he had without commanding a spot while Dan Christian at least made some good contributions. He may not be the answer long term but there were a lot worse than him. Dan Harris occasionally held his own with the bat and showed enough that he could continue to hold down a permanent position. While those mentioned above did some good things they let their side down at other times.

In some cases you can say its inconsistency but I think in general they are simply not good enough and the talent is not there. Unfortunately for a number of the Redbacks the biggest disappointment to come out of this season for them, will be the fact they are interstate this weekend and can’t enjoy themselves at the sponsors Marquee at the Adelaide Cup. That shows about where we are at. Luckily each year their pathetic performances are forgotten as the football season starts and everyone loses interest until the SACA starting talking up their chances in about October.

[stan]

I said at the start of the season that R.Harris was a good honest cricketer but maybe not good enough to put in front of Cleary.But well after the season that was, well he'd probably be the only guy you would want to pick again. Cleary will definitly be in the starting team next season as with Dizz gone, Tait unknown it means we will be looking at Cleary to really step it up.

[redden whites]

you rock up have a little net and a bowl, a bit of fielding work then retire to the bar to get on it then have a few durries.

Well its turned the full circle...Chappell and Marsh patented that

[am Bays]

you rock up have a little net and a bowl, a bit of fielding work then retire to the bar to get on it then have a few durries.

Well its turned the full circle...Chappell and Marsh patented that

Yeah, but Marsh was smart enough to realise 15 years ago that times have changed our blokes haven't and also most importantly MArsh and Chappell also knew that there is a time and place.

Based on stories I've heard from the inner sanctum I'm not sure our blokes do.

[MightyEagles]

I agree with having less district teams. Merge them if you have to I say. eg Uni with Adelaide, Woodville with West Torrens. Then align them with a SANFL club, so they can use such things as weights and club rooms and the like. Less teams = the better players compete for spots in a team.
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As a current player of the lower grade district comp its not the amount teams we have. Its the facilities the teams have at their disposal. Woodville oval is a shocker for cricket, very very slow outfield beacuse of footy, both Prospect, Port Reserve(Port) and Campbelltown (East Torrens) have shocking pitches, Price Memorial (Sturt) is Far too small for any level of cricket and Glenelg oval struggles beacuse of footy.



as for Grade cricketers doing weights don't be silly

They play footy at the MCG, Gabba and the SCG.

[heater31]

Woodville oval is a shocker for cricket, very very slow outfield beacuse of footy,

They play footy at the MCG, Gabba and the SCG.

yeah but they probably have budgets to prepare surfaces the size of the Charles Sturt Council's entire parks and gardens allocated funds.


Also teams don't bat all day and score 180 odd runs in 96 overs of cricket. what a joke

[sasquatch]

Losing , Greg Blewett, Elliott and Dizzy in the last few seasons has really hurt, since there's been no adequate replacement.
I think that even Sir Shane is kidding himself if he thinks Cullen Bailey can play for Aus. The only players in SA that could take the next step are Dan Cullen (though he needs to improve massively), and Cosgrove (who needs to lose weight and commit).
We have players like Callum Ferguson, Graham Manou, Shane Deitz, Mark Cleary, Daniel Harris, Daniel Christian, Paul Rofe and Ryan Harris who could be solid to very good state players, but they need to perform consistently.
At the end of last season, Jason Borgas opened the batting and was very solid? Where's he now?
Someone of that ilk opening the batting with Dan Harris would mean two solid, correct players... We mightn't score quickly, but at least we wouldn't be losing wickets.
Tom Plant scored a magnificent century in a match after SA had been bowled out for 29, and he knocked down the door for selection this season, where was his chance?

D. Harris (28): 23 matches, 999 runs at 23.23 (but solid in his 2007/08)
J. Borgas (26): 6 matches, 417 runs @ 34
T. Plant (23): 10 matches, 345 runs @ 17
M. Cosgrove (23): 54 matches, 3668 runs @ 38, 23 wickets @ 41 (now or never)
C. Ferguson (22): 35 matches, 2048 runs @ 34
D. Christian (24): 3 matches, 202 runs @ 33
G. Manou (28): 76 matches, 2556 runs @ 21 (Captain and WK)
R. Harris (28): 25 matches, 719 runs @ 18, 67 wickets @ 35 (Vice Captain)
M. Cleary (27): 37 matches, 976 runs @ 21, 108 wickets @ 31
D. Cullen (23): 40 matches, 116 wickets @ 42
P. Rofe (26): 67 matches, 209 wickets @ 31

And then there's Jake Brown (21), Andy Delmont(21), Cullen Bailey (22), Cam Borgas (24), Nathan Adcock (29) and maybe Tait (24) to return...

[locky801]

Great post sasquatch until you mentioned Adcock (only kidding)

[sasquatch]

Great post sasquatch until you mentioned Adcock (only kidding)

I knew it wouldn't take long for that to be pointed out...

[gadj1976]

Dizzy must be sitting at home thanking the cricket gods for ICL.

[gadj1976]

D. Harris (28): 23 matches, 999 runs at 23.23 (but solid in his 2007/08)
J. Borgas (26): 6 matches, 417 runs @ 34
T. Plant (23): 10 matches, 345 runs @ 17
M. Cosgrove (23): 54 matches, 3668 runs @ 38, 23 wickets @ 41 (now or never)
C. Ferguson (22): 35 matches, 2048 runs @ 34
D. Christian (24): 3 matches, 202 runs @ 33
G. Manou (28): 76 matches, 2556 runs @ 21 (Captain and WK)
R. Harris (28): 25 matches, 719 runs @ 18, 67 wickets @ 35 (Vice Captain)
M. Cleary (27): 37 matches, 976 runs @ 21, 108 wickets @ 31
D. Cullen (23): 40 matches, 116 wickets @ 42
P. Rofe (26): 67 matches, 209 wickets @ 31

And then there's Jake Brown (21), Andy Delmont(21), Cullen Bailey (22), Cam Borgas (24), Nathan Adcock (29) and maybe Tait (24) to return...

Young...........and mediocre.

[mal]

D. Harris (28): 23 matches, 999 runs at 23.23 (but solid in his 2007/08)
J. Borgas (26): 6 matches, 417 runs @ 34
T. Plant (23): 10 matches, 345 runs @ 17
M. Cosgrove (23): 54 matches, 3668 runs @ 38, 23 wickets @ 41 (now or never)
C. Ferguson (22): 35 matches, 2048 runs @ 34
D. Christian (24): 3 matches, 202 runs @ 33
G. Manou (28): 76 matches, 2556 runs @ 21 (Captain and WK)
R. Harris (28): 25 matches, 719 runs @ 18, 67 wickets @ 35 (Vice Captain)
M. Cleary (27): 37 matches, 976 runs @ 21, 108 wickets @ 31
D. Cullen (23): 40 matches, 116 wickets @ 42
P. Rofe (26): 67 matches, 209 wickets @ 31

And then there's Jake Brown (21), Andy Delmont(21), Cullen Bailey (22), Cam Borgas (24), Nathan Adcock (29) and maybe Tait (24) to return...

Young...........and mediocre.

Not one person in the above mentioned is a certainty to play a whole season 2008-2009
Perhaps FERGUSON + R HARRIS might be expected to play the season???

The only positive is a young squad

[gadj1976]

D. Harris (28): 23 matches, 999 runs at 23.23 (but solid in his 2007/08)
J. Borgas (26): 6 matches, 417 runs @ 34
T. Plant (23): 10 matches, 345 runs @ 17
M. Cosgrove (23): 54 matches, 3668 runs @ 38, 23 wickets @ 41 (now or never)
C. Ferguson (22): 35 matches, 2048 runs @ 34
D. Christian (24): 3 matches, 202 runs @ 33
G. Manou (28): 76 matches, 2556 runs @ 21 (Captain and WK)
R. Harris (28): 25 matches, 719 runs @ 18, 67 wickets @ 35 (Vice Captain)
M. Cleary (27): 37 matches, 976 runs @ 21, 108 wickets @ 31
D. Cullen (23): 40 matches, 116 wickets @ 42
P. Rofe (26): 67 matches, 209 wickets @ 31

And then there's Jake Brown (21), Andy Delmont(21), Cullen Bailey (22), Cam Borgas (24), Nathan Adcock (29) and maybe Tait (24) to return...

Young...........and mediocre.

Not one person in the above mentioned is a certainty to play a whole season 2008-2009
Perhaps FERGUSON + R HARRIS might be expected to play the season???

The only positive is a young squad

Problem is Mal, they're still mediocre! No "great" stats amongst them, no "potential" stars. They're just plodders which is fine if you have a Lehmann/Blewett or a Gillespie/Tait to hold them together. I can't see us being competitive for many many seasons if this is our next batch of talent.

[BUZZ]

Darren Lehmann should be appointed coach immediately.
Cosgrove should be told to lose weight immediately or f**k off from SACA.
The district pitches have nothing to do with the level of our state cricket, Les burdett couldnt produce a winning pitch in the last test match here in Adelaide so he's not the answer to our problems.
Structual changes to the selection committee and SACA in general need to be made, time to get with the times and employ more buisness/cricket focused directors.

A good tradesman never blames his tools..........Pitches arnt our problem

[Dog_ger]

What about Ian Chappel as coach.

Offer him whatever he wants.

Just maybe this great man would do it for next to nothing....

[DoublebluTiger]

My two cents worth:

Get a group to challenge and topple SACA board
Relieve Mike Deare of his role
Reduce district teams to smaller number so there is quality in the A grade

'Johnny come lately' comments I know.

[magpie in the 80's]

if nothing drastically happens
then a repeat of this thread
this time next year

[best on hill]

Darren Lehmann should be appointed coach immediately.
Cosgrove should be told to lose weight immediately or f**k off from SACA.
The district pitches have nothing to do with the level of our state cricket, Les burdett couldnt produce a winning pitch in the last test match here in Adelaide so he's not the answer to our problems.
Structual changes to the selection committee and SACA in general need to be made, time to get with the times and employ more buisness/cricket focused directors.

A good tradesman never blames his tools..........Pitches arnt our problem

yep get rid of the high preformance coach first. there has been nothing high preformance about the way marsh has handled the redbacks. for christ sake he sacked the best batsman this state has produced since hookys

[Pup]

Sasquatch makes some good points but if SA are going to dish up a side like that for the next 2 years then there will be a lot more pain on the way for the supporters. It is a young side but not a good one.

Not one batsman averages over 40, Every other side would 1 or 2 if not more that do. The best batsman both statistically and on potential is Overweight and in Denial and wont do anything to change.

With the retirement of Gillespie and who knows what Tait will be doing the bowling is equally thin. No bowler averages less than 30 which is a disgrace and the one who has one of the better averages can not get a game.

We have two spinners who are over hyped and over payed. They both need to go back to the drawing board and focus on playing good cricket for the Redbacks and not think about their so called future International chances.

SACA needs to recruit, Rogers has to be first on the list. Accomplished batsmen who scores a mountain of runs for WA and who wants out and is linked to SA, who knows when Hayden will retire and even if Rogers will get the gig. He wont be playing ODIs so will be around for a lot of the season. He is a must IMO. If they can not get him look for blokes like North, Marsh, Butterworth because the current crop here is not good enough and probably never will be. Its time to poach.

Things need to change and change quickly.

[locky801]

After reading this thread more carefully and taking my time to ponder over the posts I have come up with one conclusion


S.A. cricket is in huge trouble for many a year to come