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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Hills » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:08 pm

FootyMad wrote:Yeah the poor lad forgot to pay his last installment of subs, all paid now so that will be updated in due course.


EB paying out again?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Toughcall » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:47 pm

words of wisdom wrote:
the observer wrote:Heathy played alot of Junior and 1 season of seniors at Port Noarlunga Ports cleared him without any hitches so I cannot see any problems with that saga going on. He has given good service for 4 seasons I agree a good pick up will fit in well with Porties structure.


Couldnt agree more. Unfortunately when you sign something they can hold you to it. I beleive if someone doesnt want to play for you let them go regardless. One person imparticular will make things difficult. :twisted: [-o<


Surely if he has committed to Myponga through a contract he has to see it through doesn't he? Unless there are some issues that everyone does not know about and they would want to be good reasons. Whatever happened to a man's word or the good old fashioned handshake, that all went out the window, so they brought in written contracts and now that means nothing. If you say something do it!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Hardly_super » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:17 pm

Toughcall wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
the observer wrote:Heathy played alot of Junior and 1 season of seniors at Port Noarlunga Ports cleared him without any hitches so I cannot see any problems with that saga going on. He has given good service for 4 seasons I agree a good pick up will fit in well with Porties structure.


Couldnt agree more. Unfortunately when you sign something they can hold you to it. I beleive if someone doesnt want to play for you let them go regardless. One person imparticular will make things difficult. :twisted: [-o<


Surely if he has committed to Myponga through a contract he has to see it through doesn't he? Unless there are some issues that everyone does not know about and they would want to be good reasons. Whatever happened to a man's word or the good old fashioned handshake, that all went out the window, so they brought in written contracts and now that means nothing. If you say something do it!


You say this but last year when Myponga signed there players for 2008 they did it before the end of 2007 season. (Thats one point to Myponga)
However they did it with Deacs and gave a "fairly strong impression" that he would carry on for a third year. (thats one point off to Myponga)!

but your right if you sign you committ its a tough one!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Specky McGee » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:29 pm

Hardly_super wrote:
Toughcall wrote:
words of wisdom wrote:
the observer wrote:Heathy played alot of Junior and 1 season of seniors at Port Noarlunga Ports cleared him without any hitches so I cannot see any problems with that saga going on. He has given good service for 4 seasons I agree a good pick up will fit in well with Porties structure.


Couldnt agree more. Unfortunately when you sign something they can hold you to it. I beleive if someone doesnt want to play for you let them go regardless. One person imparticular will make things difficult. :twisted: [-o<


Surely if he has committed to Myponga through a contract he has to see it through doesn't he? Unless there are some issues that everyone does not know about and they would want to be good reasons. Whatever happened to a man's word or the good old fashioned handshake, that all went out the window, so they brought in written contracts and now that means nothing. If you say something do it!


You say this but last year when Myponga signed there players for 2008 they did it before the end of 2007 season. (Thats one point to Myponga)
However they did it with Deacs and gave a "fairly strong impression" that he would carry on for a third year. (thats one point off to Myponga)!

but your right if you sign you committ its a tough one!


A good example of this, or perhaps a precedent, was when Daniele from Kangarilla committed to a 2 year contract but decided he wanted out after just one year. With the contract signed he was forced by Kangarilla to either play for them or sit the year out! Im pretty sure he ended up having a year off. The Heath situation sounds very similar, but why would you want to keep a bloke at your club who doesnt have the passion to play for the team? Letting him go would be best for both parties.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby LuvsFooty » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:33 pm

Specky I believe a similar thing happened with us and Troy Bond when he wanted to break his contract at the Saints. He had 2 options. Play or sit out the year. I think some money was exchanged and he was released from his contract. I dont think guys understand that the footy contracts they sign are actually official legal documents.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby BJ Ernest » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:37 pm

Simple, dont sign a 2 year deal, make it an option in the contract where if a player stays on for the 2nd year they get an incentive or something like that. I understand clubs not wanting to bring in a guy for 1 year but as a player i wouldnt sign more than a 1 year deal due to this sort of situation arising where you want to move on and cant because of contractual obligations.

Especially in the Myponga situation where these players were signed before Deacon was replaced they wouldve been staying partly due to who was coaching, i know the boys liked him. Situations and circumstances change so committing to more than 1 year seems odd to me.

Lets be honest, its not Pro football and clubs need to be just as diligent in WHO they recruit to make sure they are getting the right guys. Money hungry players are not the answer!!! The answer is in the person and usually a good club can hold these good people unless circumstances arise. If a player wants to leave then let him go, if u leave on good terms then the player is a lot higher chance to return than if the bridge is burnt by not clearing etc.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Hardly_super » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:41 pm

Luvsfooty- Great call! And you to BJ. A lot of guys dont realize what they are doing when they sighn contracts. Perhaps there is a responsibility on the club to make sure the player knows what he is promising. But the player must also be vigilant and never sighn unless they agree and understand the terms and conditions!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Grape Ape » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:48 pm

LuvsFooty wrote:Specky I believe a similar thing happened with us and Troy Bond when he wanted to break his contract at the Saints. He had 2 options. Play or sit out the year. I think some money was exchanged and he was released from his contract. I dont think guys understand that the footy contracts they sign are actually official legal documents.


I always thought 'signing' with club meant signing a clearance form! #-o
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby FootyMad » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:25 pm

Hills wrote:
FootyMad wrote:Yeah the poor lad forgot to pay his last installment of subs, all paid now so that will be updated in due course.


EB paying out again?


Sure are Hills, Wezza owed - $30 so the players all chipped in and we got it paid.
After all he is a dual Mail Medalist.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Hills » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:38 pm

FootyMad wrote:
Hills wrote:
FootyMad wrote:Yeah the poor lad forgot to pay his last installment of subs, all paid now so that will be updated in due course.


EB paying out again?


Sure are Hills, Wezza owed - $30 so the players all chipped in and we got it paid.
After all he is a dual Mail Medalist.


Dont give me that!

EB pay out a truck full!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby FootyMad » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:44 pm

Hills wrote:
FootyMad wrote:
Hills wrote:
FootyMad wrote:Yeah the poor lad forgot to pay his last installment of subs, all paid now so that will be updated in due course.


EB paying out again?


Sure are Hills, Wezza owed - $30 so the players all chipped in and we got it paid.
After all he is a dual Mail Medalist.


Dont give me that!

EB pay out a truck full!


Ahh, you have us confused with Jervois.
Proof's in the pudding there with one of our players having left to join your club for more money.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Hills » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:54 pm

Im sure on field success helped with his decision FM.

Besides, there isnt anything wrong with a bloke asking for a few extra bucks after winning your B&F.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby FootyMad » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:58 pm

Hills wrote:Im sure on field success helped with his decision FM.

Besides, there isnt anything wrong with a bloke asking for a few extra bucks after winning your B&F.


Well whats your point then? One minute we have a truck load of cash the next there's nothing wrong with players leaving because we dont offer enough?

A few extra dollars is an understatement, but to you rich Jervois boys anything under the average player fee of 400 is chump change :lol:

Anyone can drop down a rung or two in search of 'on-field success' Hills.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby sasquatch » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:49 pm

Could someone tell me how Brendan Gloyn goes in sports down there?
Fairly sure (not positive, tho) he plays for the Saints in footy, and should be seen around basketball and cricket.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby luvayarn » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:31 pm

FM you continue to go on about Bayliss leaving Enc Bay i dont think he owed your club anything after all he played good footy at your club and was paid to do so and jervois seen a chance to pounce , just like your club did when they recruited him there, i think you should move on and get with the times that players come and go just like Wes . I bet you had no hesitation in chasing his signiture and i am sure he is not playing at the Bay because you are all nice blokes, if he is then your club has been telling him porky pies as there is a s_ _t load of people that he probably should of spoken to first.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby kappars » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:02 am

Look out the one day i have off work the forum runs red hot!
Some interesting talk about contracts, how many clubs and players do agree to anything more than a one year deal?
Cuzzy you look like a fool and someone that has no idea and full of shit, why would and Goolwa person make up that Griff has been training? If you like i beleive he is helping out with colts training tonight then doing a hour session after that with one or two locals!
How is everybodys pre season looking with numbers and fitness levels?
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby damian » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:49 am

sasquatch wrote:Could someone tell me how Brendan Gloyn goes in sports down there?
Fairly sure (not positive, tho) he plays for the Saints in footy, and should be seen around basketball and cricket.


BAHAHAHAHAHA..He holds down a back pocket in the reserves, probably just makes up numbers in basketball and cricket also
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Toughcall » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:00 am

It is absolutely ironic Encounter Bay having a whinge about paying fotballers! Thier side last year was chocful of players no one had seen before and they didn't all come down for the love of the club. Move on and deal with 08.
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby damian » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:02 am

you just hit the nail on the head TC!
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Re: GSFL Movements

Postby Hardly_super » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:08 am

"Hills" you talk some sh1t. you tried to stir the pot and got caught in your own whirlpool.

"FM" you went fishing and used good bait, you caught yourself a "Hills"!

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