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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby locky801 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:35 pm

Getting plastered all over the park


VIC 0/37 OFF OF 7 OVERS
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby locky801 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:39 pm

grabbed a late scalp

Vic now 1/37

Jewell 16*

Siddle 0*


Lets hope Siddle gets a king pair
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby JK » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:46 pm

Report below from the Age newspaper on Brad Hodge's compassionate leave ... Given his wife's situation was pre-booked and not an unexpected emergency, should he have been allowed to play? (No sour grapes, just legitimate question)

Hodge's 33-year-old wife, Megan, had suffered from an irregular heart rhythm for a number of years and had arranged to have a procedure to correct it after it became increasingly worse over the past six weeks.

With the surgery booked in for yesterday morning, Hodge had last week arranged permission from umpires for compassionate leave in case he was batting when his wife went to hospital. He had hoped the procedure might fall while the Victorians were fielding so he could simply be subbed off the ground, but with him being forced to the crease on Monday night with the loss of two wickets in the final overs it was inevitable he would miss some of yesterday's play.
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby RoosterMarty » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:00 pm

If you go into a match injured you can't have a runner.... same should apply here.
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby heater31 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:08 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Report below from the Age newspaper on Brad Hodge's compassionate leave ... Given his wife's situation was pre-booked and not an unexpected emergency, should he have been allowed to play? (No sour grapes, just legitimate question)

Hodge's 33-year-old wife, Megan, had suffered from an irregular heart rhythm for a number of years and had arranged to have a procedure to correct it after it became increasingly worse over the past six weeks.

With the surgery booked in for yesterday morning, Hodge had last week arranged permission from umpires for compassionate leave in case he was batting when his wife went to hospital. He had hoped the procedure might fall while the Victorians were fielding so he could simply be subbed off the ground, but with him being forced to the crease on Monday night with the loss of two wickets in the final overs it was inevitable he would miss some of yesterday's play.


why then did he take to the crease on monday night after the loss of Siddle late in the day? also would he not also have to seek the permission of the opposing captain?
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:09 pm

1. Substitutes and runners
(a) If the umpires are satisfied that a player has been injured or become ill after the nomination of the players, they shall allow that player to have
(i) a substitute acting instead of him in the field.
(ii) a runner when batting.
Any injury or illness that occurs at any time after the nomination of the players until the conclusion of the match shall be allowable, irrespective of whether play is in progress or not.

(b) The umpires shall have discretion, for other wholly acceptable reasons, to allow a substitute for a fielder, or a runner for a batsman, at the start of the match or at any subsequent time.

(c) A player wishing to change his shirt, boots, etc. must leave the field to do so. No substitute shall be allowed for him.

2. Objection to substitutes
The opposing captain shall have no right of objection to any player acting as a substitute on the field, nor as to where the substitute shall field. However, no substitute shall act as wicket-keeper. See 3 below.


3. Restrictions on the role of substitutes
A substitute shall not be allowed to bat or bowl nor to act as wicket-keeper or as captain on the field of play.

4. A player for whom a substitute has acted
A player is allowed to bat, bowl or field even though a substitute has previously acted for him.

5. Fielder absent or leaving the field
If a fielder fails to take the field with his side at the start of the match or at any later time, or leaves the field during a session of play,
(a) the umpire shall be informed of the reason for his absence.

(b) he shall not thereafter come on to the field during a session of play without the consent of the umpire. See 6 below. The umpire shall give such consent as soon as is practicable.

(c) if he is absent for 15 minutes or longer, he shall not be permitted to bowl thereafter, subject to (i), (ii) or (iii) below, until he has been on the field for at least that length of playing time for which he was absent.
(i) Absence or penalty for time absent shall not be carried over into a new day's play.
(ii) If, in the case of a follow-on or forfeiture, a side fields for two consecutive innings, this restriction shall, subject to (i) above, continue as necessary into the second innings but shall not otherwise be carried over into a new innings.
(iii) The time lost for an unscheduled break in play shall be counted as time on the field for any fielder who comes on to the field at the resumption of play. See Law 15.1 (An interval).

6. Player returning without permission
If a player comes on to the field of play in contravention of 5(b) above and comes into contact with the ball while it is in play
(i) the ball shall immediately become dead and the umpire shall award 5 penalty runs to the batting side. See Law 42.17 (Penalty runs). The ball shall not count as one of the over.
(ii) the umpire shall inform the other umpire, the captain of the fielding side, the batsmen and, as soon as practicable, the captain of the batting side of the reason for this action.
(iii) the umpires together shall report the occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain and player concerned.
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby locky801 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:20 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Report below from the Age newspaper on Brad Hodge's compassionate leave ... Given his wife's situation was pre-booked and not an unexpected emergency, should he have been allowed to play? (No sour grapes, just legitimate question)

Hodge's 33-year-old wife, Megan, had suffered from an irregular heart rhythm for a number of years and had arranged to have a procedure to correct it after it became increasingly worse over the past six weeks.

With the surgery booked in for yesterday morning, Hodge had last week arranged permission from umpires for compassionate leave in case he was batting when his wife went to hospital. He had hoped the procedure might fall while the Victorians were fielding so he could simply be subbed off the ground, but with him being forced to the crease on Monday night with the loss of two wickets in the final overs it was inevitable he would miss some of yesterday's play.



Quite simple the Vic Cricket would have known and informed the SACA and an agreement would have been reached, the SACA should have said No and the Vics should have done the right thing and not selected him, once again shows the facts that the Vics tread all over us south aussies, rules for some and not the others, this situation also did not call for a subsitute fielder, if it had occurred when the Vics were in the field, I would have objected to a sub fielder as I would have for him retiring hurt, how much more are we going to bend the rules, like ohh I went out on the grog last night, have a hangover and can't bat till after lunch :wink:
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:02 pm

SA should have been advised of the scenario and only if they agreed should it of happened, rules might say different but the rules also say they should be interpreted in the "spirit of the game"
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby brod » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:34 pm

Dan Christian on the radio today stated that the Redbacks knew about it and were happy to allow it to happen with the idea that "there are bigger things in the world than cricket"
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby Stumps » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:02 am

like what?
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby Thiele » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:07 am

need early wickets today
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby rogernumber10 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:48 am

Stumps wrote:like what?



1. Footy.

That's bigger than cricket. Not long till NAB Cup matches start on Feb 8 (if you like them), and only eight weeks to round one if you don't like pre-season games.

2. Beer.

Also, as Homer Simpson might have said, is anything more important than beer? What can't beer do?

There's two flippant examples. 8) (might go back to concentrating on work now)
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby Bob Loblaw » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:45 am

if tait comes back into the side, who will get dropped?
r.harris, cleary and rofe have all had similar games with small handy contributions with the bat and a couple of wickets. and if we play a spinner you would think 2 of these guys will get dropped
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby blink » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:59 am

Bob Loblaw wrote:if tait comes back into the side, who will get dropped?
r.harris, cleary and rofe have all had similar games with small handy contributions with the bat and a couple of wickets. and if we play a spinner you would think 2 of these guys will get dropped


Whoever gets dropped out of R. Harris, Cleary and Rofe can count themselves unlucky. I would prefer SA to go in with two of these guys, plus Tait. No need for a spinner...

Speaking of our highly rated spinners - Cullen & Bailey, does anyone know how they have been performing in grade cricket of late?
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby Bob Loblaw » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:49 am

Siddle and Hodge both LBW R.Harris
3/83, 180 more to get
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby schimma » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:51 am

Bob Loblaw wrote:Siddle and Hodge both LBW R.Harris
3/83, 180 more to get




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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby saintal » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:15 pm

Hussey 21* from 17. Ominous start.
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:23 pm

where are you getting scores from?
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby Dirko » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:24 pm

http://ls.cricket.com.au/HomeFullScorec ... 13_20.html

Bit slow but it's OK

They need 143 with seven wickets in hand... :(
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Re: Vic vs Sa

Postby saintal » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:40 pm

I use

http://content-www.cricinfo.com/baggygr ... 98334.html

Similar to the other site really.
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