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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby MW » Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:06 am

The finals win/loss record argument always amuses me.
If you make finals, at best you are likely to be 1-1, or 0-1, or 2-1 if you are lucky. Only winning the flag can you be 3-0 or 3-1 in finals.
So odds are most coaches would either have break even or losing finals records even though their regular season win/loss % would be well above 50%
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby dedja » Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:19 am

MW wrote:The finals win/loss record argument always amuses me.
If you make finals, at best you are likely to be 1-1, or 0-1, or 2-1 if you are lucky. Only winning the flag can you be 3-0 or 3-1 in finals.
So odds are most coaches would either have break even or losing finals records even though their regular season win/loss % would be well above 50%


On its own with no context … 100% agree.

Preliminary Finals: 0-4, so nearly half of all finals loses.
Grand Finals: 0
Premierships: 0

This is from a club who announced that they would win 3 flags in 5 years, granted that the blame for that ridiculous boast shouldn’t be pinned on the coach.

It’s also not his fault that the club kept reappointing him … who in their right mind would quit a job that they love and are handsomely remunerated.
Dunno, I’m just an idiot.

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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:28 am

dedja wrote:
MW wrote:The finals win/loss record argument always amuses me.
If you make finals, at best you are likely to be 1-1, or 0-1, or 2-1 if you are lucky. Only winning the flag can you be 3-0 or 3-1 in finals.
So odds are most coaches would either have break even or losing finals records even though their regular season win/loss % would be well above 50%


On its own with no context … 100% agree.

Preliminary Finals: 0-4, so nearly half of all finals loses.
Grand Finals: 0
Premierships: 0

This is from a club who announced that they would win 3 flags in 5 years, granted that the blame for that ridiculous boast shouldn’t be pinned on the coach.

It’s also not his fault that the club kept reappointing him … who in their right mind would quit a job that they love and are handsomely remunerated.


The "club" didn't announce it, the CEO stated it was a goal. Yes, it was a ridiculous statement but was also twisted to make sound worse, just another list of things Port supprters have to take on the chin as it is forever mentioned.

Your 2nd sentence hits the nail on the head, Kenny loves working, he loves his playing group. Although I'm glad he's finishing up and I'm bitter about a couple of premierships that we should've owned, I can't see things getting any better any time soon, for someone who grew up not barracking for Port they are a hard club to keep supporting.
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:47 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
dedja wrote:
MW wrote:The finals win/loss record argument always amuses me.
If you make finals, at best you are likely to be 1-1, or 0-1, or 2-1 if you are lucky. Only winning the flag can you be 3-0 or 3-1 in finals.
So odds are most coaches would either have break even or losing finals records even though their regular season win/loss % would be well above 50%


On its own with no context … 100% agree.

Preliminary Finals: 0-4, so nearly half of all finals loses.
Grand Finals: 0
Premierships: 0

This is from a club who announced that they would win 3 flags in 5 years, granted that the blame for that ridiculous boast shouldn’t be pinned on the coach.

It’s also not his fault that the club kept reappointing him … who in their right mind would quit a job that they love and are handsomely remunerated.


The "club" didn't announce it, the CEO stated it was a goal. Yes, it was a ridiculous statement but was also twisted to make sound worse, just another list of things Port supprters have to take on the chin as it is forever mentioned.

Your 2nd sentence hits the nail on the head, Kenny loves working, he loves his playing group. Although I'm glad he's finishing up and I'm bitter about a couple of premierships that we should've owned, I can't see things getting any better any time soon, for someone who grew up not barracking for Port they are a hard club to keep supporting.

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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Trader » Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:15 pm

dedja wrote:Are Port in a much better place than when he arrived … on field?

Year before he started - 2012: 14th 5-16-1 78.9%
Last Year as coach* - 2025: 13th 8-14-0 79.0%

* one match remaining

Coach: 2013-2025, 13 years
Finals: W6 L9
Grand Finals: 0
Premierships: 0


Don't forget he's also left us with the great position of not having a first-round draft pick, and a reduced soft cap.
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