by Brodlach » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:18 pm
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by mots02 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:20 pm
Booney wrote:Brodlach wrote:Can’t rely on Esava week in week out with both his body and how he plays and Allir will be 32 next year.
I can see your drop off coming as quickly as Adelaide in 2019 with few high picks in this draft and not really being able to bring players in unless you move on a bigger name.
Given the detail I've gone into with our list profile I simply cannot fathom how you're comparing the two.
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:20 pm
Brodlach wrote:I think you are over rating your list and can see where LM is coming from to some extent
by Brodlach » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:27 pm
Booney wrote:Brodlach wrote:I think you are over rating your list and can see where LM is coming from to some extent
He's saying we haven't played kids. That's wrong.
You asked if we thought we'd bounce back, not trolling, then tell me I'm over rating the list.
Appreciate the laughs mate, good stuff.
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:31 pm
Brodlach wrote:Booney wrote:Brodlach wrote:I think you are over rating your list and can see where LM is coming from to some extent
He's saying we haven't played kids. That's wrong.
You asked if we thought we'd bounce back, not trolling, then tell me I'm over rating the list.
Appreciate the laughs mate, good stuff.
I thought LM was talking about playing quality kids, if I’m wrong I apologize
I’m not trolling, I was having a discussion in the office with a Port nuffy and we were debating if its the coach or list which hampered the team.
PS I wouldn’t have thought I was someone who trolled intentionally
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:32 pm
by mots02 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:32 pm
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:32 pm
Brodlach wrote:Booney wrote:Brodlach wrote:I think you are over rating your list and can see where LM is coming from to some extent
He's saying we haven't played kids. That's wrong.
You asked if we thought we'd bounce back, not trolling, then tell me I'm over rating the list.
Appreciate the laughs mate, good stuff.
I thought LM was talking about playing quality kids, if I’m wrong I apologize
I’m not trolling, I was having a discussion in the office with a Port nuffy and we were debating if its the coach or list which hampered the team.
PS I wouldn’t have thought I was someone who trolled intentionally
by Brodlach » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:33 pm
Booney wrote:Brodlach wrote:Can’t rely on Esava week in week out with both his body and how he plays and Allir will be 32 next year.
I can see your drop off coming as quickly as Adelaide in 2019 with few high picks in this draft and not really being able to bring players in unless you move on a bigger name.
Given the detail I've gone into with our list profile I simply cannot fathom how you're comparing the two.
At the end of 2019 :
Eddie Betts (trd)
Richard Douglas (del)
Cam Ellis-Yolmen (FA)
Hugh Greenwood (trd)
Paul Hunter (del)
Sam Jacobs (trd)
Josh Jenkins (trd)
Alex Keath (trd)
Andy Otten (ret)
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:36 pm
Booney wrote:
What do you mean 5 in 8 years? Sinn, Burgoyne and Evans ( mid season ) were the back line in a prelim final, Visentini was leading the rucks and Lorenz, Berry and Moraes came into the club in the last 18 months, not every kid plays 20 games in their first year.
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:37 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:
This was the WHOLE paragraph:
I don't think we played enough kids along the Kenny journey and the ones we trialed we either were too spasmodic or they just weren't up to it, I[b] hope we just don't continue to go down the recycled 24-26 year old path and expect miracles, we get good games out of those in that category but no consistency. Our success rate with that thought process would have to be less than 30%[/b]
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:38 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:Booney wrote:
What do you mean 5 in 8 years? Sinn, Burgoyne and Evans ( mid season ) were the back line in a prelim final, Visentini was leading the rucks and Lorenz, Berry and Moraes came into the club in the last 18 months, not every kid plays 20 games in their first year.
I mean 5 in 8 years, you obviously see more in them names than I do thus far.
by Brodlach » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:40 pm
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:43 pm
Brodlach wrote:Booney wrote:Brodlach wrote:Can’t rely on Esava week in week out with both his body and how he plays and Allir will be 32 next year.
I can see your drop off coming as quickly as Adelaide in 2019 with few high picks in this draft and not really being able to bring players in unless you move on a bigger name.
Given the detail I've gone into with our list profile I simply cannot fathom how you're comparing the two.
At the end of 2019 :
Eddie Betts (trd)
Richard Douglas (del)
Cam Ellis-Yolmen (FA)
Hugh Greenwood (trd)
Paul Hunter (del)
Sam Jacobs (trd)
Josh Jenkins (trd)
Alex Keath (trd)
Andy Otten (ret)
As you can see on the Adelaide thread I mentioned how bad our list was. Looking at that list no doubt Ports is currently better than that list but will be interesting to see in 5 years
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:46 pm
Booney wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Booney wrote:
What do you mean 5 in 8 years? Sinn, Burgoyne and Evans ( mid season ) were the back line in a prelim final, Visentini was leading the rucks and Lorenz, Berry and Moraes came into the club in the last 18 months, not every kid plays 20 games in their first year.
I mean 5 in 8 years, you obviously see more in them names than I do thus far.
Wait, you were saying we don't play them, are you now saying they're no good?
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:55 pm
by bertiebeatle1 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:14 pm
mots02 wrote:List discussion aside, there has to be some concern on the impact Carr can have….. He’s driving the bus now isn’t he?
The forward handball attacking game plan is his…. But only some of the squad seem to be able to execute it consistently.
by bertiebeatle1 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:17 pm
by Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:24 pm
bertiebeatle1 wrote:In saying that, we lost to some bottom teams earlier in the year so draw may not make much of a difference. List health is important though
by mots02 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:27 pm
bertiebeatle1 wrote:mots02 wrote:List discussion aside, there has to be some concern on the impact Carr can have….. He’s driving the bus now isn’t he?
The forward handball attacking game plan is his…. But only some of the squad seem to be able to execute it consistently.
Hard to tell, one of our worst runs with injuries this year since Ken took over (it is what it is).
2026 - easier draw, hopefully a healthier list & with those two things alone we are likely to rise (how far, not sure). That may blind some general thoughts on whether the coaching has an impact or not next year.
Whether game plan or coaching contributes to that, it is impossible to know at the moment. All i know is 2025 was a complete waste of a year (besides some development to younger guys)
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