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Re: US

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:27 am

Brodlach wrote:So 10% tariffs on our exports to the US.

Looks like every country started at 10% and only got bigger.

It we export so much beef to the US, why would me import it? I can never understand that.

We import more than we export to the US. I give it to the weekend then our tariff is dropped


And why would we import an inferior product?
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Re: US

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:29 am

We haven't imported beef from the US for about 20 years because of Mad Cow Disease.
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Re: US

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:36 am

Booney wrote:We haven't imported beef from the US for about 20 years because of Mad Cow Disease.


And Maccas is the Orange Clown's favourite food. It's all adding up...
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Re: US

Postby Brodlach » Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:36 am

That was my point, it was pointless bringing that up especially early when most were listening intently
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Re: US

Postby Booney » Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:52 am

Aus Beef Industry believes it's a 10% tariff not a total ban.

It’s still a little unclear whether Australian beef will be banned from the US.

Anthony Albanese said beef was part of the discussions with the US “but that didn’t progress, and so, that is where we’re at at this point”. “We’ll of course seek further clarity about all of the decisions that are made,” he said. “But the decision as well is to impose across-the-board tariffs on all goods entering the United States.”

The Red Meat Advisory Council (RMAC), however, insists there is no ban.

“While Australian meat exports will shortly be subjected to a 10 per cent tariff, there is no ban on Australian red meat and our trade with the US will continue,” RMAC chair John McKillop said in a statement.
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Re: US

Postby dedja » Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:20 am

10% tariff imposed on Australia because we have a 10% GST?

The easiest way that he could raise enormous sums is to have a tax on stupid Americans … oh, hang on. #-o

The US Congress could remove the ‘loophole’ in the Executive Orders that he has used to impose tariffs. In fact the Dems tried to force a vote in Congress on it which they were entitled to do, and a vote had to be held within 15 days (or something close to that from memory).

The Republican response? The changed the definition of a day for this specific Legislation to 365 days to defer this.

You just can’t make this shit up. :-??

The Dems should have changed the duration of 19 Jan 2025 to 20 Jan 2029 to a day when they had the chance. :lol:
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Re: US

Postby Kahuna » Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:55 am

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Everyone else gets 10%. I would be interested to know the reasoning (or otherwise) on some of these countries. Bangladesh?
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Re: US

Postby bertiebeatle1 » Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:57 am

Kahuna wrote:
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Everyone else gets 10%. I would be interested to know the reasoning (or otherwise) on some of these countries. Bangladesh?



Quick google shows they imported $10 Billion from Bangladesh last year - mainly suits & clothes.
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Re: US

Postby dedja » Thu Apr 03, 2025 9:57 am

Most likely based on something he saw in QAnon.
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Re: US

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:25 am

Booney wrote:Aus Beef Industry believes it's a 10% tariff not a total ban.

It’s still a little unclear whether Australian beef will be banned from the US.

Anthony Albanese said beef was part of the discussions with the US “but that didn’t progress, and so, that is where we’re at at this point”. “We’ll of course seek further clarity about all of the decisions that are made,” he said. “But the decision as well is to impose across-the-board tariffs on all goods entering the United States.”

The Red Meat Advisory Council (RMAC), however, insists there is no ban.

“While Australian meat exports will shortly be subjected to a 10 per cent tariff, there is no ban on Australian red meat and our trade with the US will continue,” RMAC chair John McKillop said in a statement.


A Big Mac to go up by 10%
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Re: US

Postby Jim05 » Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:31 am

The Yanks do all this to us and then we announce United are flying direct to Adelaide from the US at a time when travel to the US is declining and of course the SA government is subsidising them.
I know we are going to see a massive uplift in US military contractors coming here but I’m not sure subsidising them is a good look
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Re: US

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:58 am

Jim05 wrote:The Yanks do all this to us and then we announce United are flying direct to Adelaide from the US at a time when travel to the US is declining and of course the SA government is subsidising them.
I know we are going to see a massive uplift in US military contractors coming here but I’m not sure subsidising them is a good look


I was thinking the same thing on the way to work
Problem is Trump would probably ban Qantas
Then again........ he would be doing Australians a favour forcing them to use a 1st world airline
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Re: US

Postby dedja » Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:19 pm

Claim: EU tariffs on the US are 39%, so he imposes a 20% ‘reciprocal’ tariff.
Fact: EU weighted average tariff rate on the US? 3%

Claim: UK tariffs on the US are 10%, so he imposes a 10% ‘reciprocal’ tariff.
Fact: UK weighted average tariff rate on the US? 3%

Claim: Vietnam tariffs on the US are 90%, so he imposes a 46% ‘reciprocal’ tariff.
Fact: Vietnam weighted average tariff rate on the US? 5.1%

Claim: Taiwan tariffs on the US are 64%, so he imposes a 32% ‘reciprocal’ tariff.
Fact: Taiwan weighted average tariff rate on the US? 6.4%

What about Australia?

Claim: Australia tariffs on the US are 10%, so he imposes a 10% ‘reciprocal’ tariff.
Fact: There are effectively no tariffs on US goods due to the Australia and US Trade Agreement, AUSFTA, an agreement he just unilaterally reneged on.

* Trade-weighted average tariff rate is defined by dividing the total tariff revenue by the total value of imports

A dartboard may or may not have been used to determine the tariffs, which may or may not change at any time.
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Re: US

Postby Kahuna » Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:51 pm

dedja wrote:A dartboard may or may not have been used to determine the tariffs, which may or may not change at any time.


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Re: US

Postby dedja » Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:55 pm

He’s a genius … 77 million Americans can’t be wrong, oh hang on. #-o

Liz Cheney previously on Republicans supporting Trump

'There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain'
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Re: US

Postby woodublieve12 » Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:37 pm

No real surprise there is no tariffs on Russia
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Re: US

Postby dedja » Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:44 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:No real surprise there is no tariffs on Russia


Da Comrade, although trade between the US and Russia is tiny, approximately $3B each way.

I guess he didn't want to risk any pee pee pics getting out.
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Re: US

Postby Brodlach » Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:46 pm

dedja wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:No real surprise there is no tariffs on Russia


Da Comrade, although trade between the US and Russia is tiny, approximately $3B each way.

I guess he didn't want to risk any pee pee pics getting out.

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Re: US

Postby dedja » Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:55 pm

Nyet Comrade.

Russia imports into the US (2024) $3.27B. :-B (couldn't be arsed formatting it)


Fertilizers $1.30B
Pearls, precious stones, metals, coins $878.10M
Inorganic chemicals, precious metal compound, isotope $695.72M
Wood and articles of wood, wood charcoal $89.44M
Machinery, nuclear reactors, boilers $80.82M
Residues, wastes of food industry, animal fodder $39.91M
Base metals not specified elsewhere, cermets. $37.31M
Aircraft, spacecraft $34.87M
Iron and steel $13.17M
Commodities not specified according to kind $10.97M
Oil seed, oleagic fruits, grain, seed, fruits $10.13M
Electrical, electronic equipment $10.01M
Edible vegetables and certain roots and tubers $6.45M
Rubbers $6.20M
Optical, photo, technical, medical apparatus $5.93M
Organic chemicals $4.85M
Vegetable, fruit, nut food preparations $3.74M
Plastics $3.41M
Beverages, spirits and vinegar $3.31M
Footwear, gaiters and the like, $3.03M
Cereal, flour, starch, milk preparations and products $2.93M
Cocoa and cocoa preparations $2.78M
Cereals $2.71M
Milling products, malt, starches, inlin, wheat gluten $2.65M
Miscellaneous edible preparations $2.46M
Aluminum $2.32M
Glass and glassware $1.72M
Sugars and sugar confectionery $1.24M
Works of art, collectors' pieces and antiques $1.17M
Essential oils, perfumes, cosmetics, toileteries $1.10M
Coffee, tea, mate and spices $960.94K
Tobacco and manufactures tobacco substitutes $936.33K
Ores slag and ash $872.00K
Pharmaceutical products $833.08K
Dairy products, eggs, honey, edible products $709.9K
Toys, games, sports requisites $601.98K
Lac, gums, resins $537.16K
Vehicles other than railway, tramway $527.72K
Printed books, newspapers, pictures $495.98K
Articles of apparel, knit or crocheted $354.88K
Stone, plaster, cement, asbestos, mica or similar materials $336.25K
Furniture, lighting signs, prefabricated buildings $292.36K
Live animals $289.00K
Products of animal origin $279.76K
Animal, vegetable fats and oils, cleavage products $272.22K
Arms and ammunition, parts and accessories $226.01K
Salt, sulphur, earth, stone, plaster, lime and cement $196.01K
Miscellaneous chemical products $185.90K
Clocks and watches $174.74K
Articles of iron or steel $143.65K
Edible fruits, nuts, peel of citrus fruit, melons $100.16K
Soaps, lubricants, waxes, candles, modelling pastes $72.73K
Other made textile articles, sets, worn clothing $49.13K
Tools, implements, cutlery of base metal $33.19K
Ceramic products $24.85K
Articles of apparel, not knit or crocheted $20.91K
Albuminoids, modified starches, glues, enzymes $19.13K
Copper $13.50K
Musical instruments, parts and accessories $13.43K
Miscellanneous manufactured articles $11.93K
Paper and paperboard, articles of pulp, paper and board $10.94K
Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products $9.50K
Miscellaneous articles of base metal $7.69K
Headgear and $5.50K
Tanning, dyeing extracts, tannins, derivatives, pigments $2.91K
Special woven or tufted fabric, lace, tapestry $2.48K
Carpets and other textile floor coverings $1.98K
Articles of leather, animal gut, harness, travel good $1.54K
Impregnated, coated or laminated textile fabric $273
Nickel $26.55M
Railway, tramway locomotives, rolling stock, equipment $205.2K
Furskins and artificial fur, manufactures $16.59K
Ships, boats, and other floating structures $9.4K
Vegetable textile fibers not specified elsewhere, paper yarn, woven fabric $9.36K
Fish, crustaceans, molluscs, aquatics invertebrates $930.12M
Lead $14.76M
Wadding, felt, nonwovens, yarns, twine, cordage $864.33K
Explosives, pyrotechnics, matches, pyrophorics $557.06K
Meat, fish and seafood preparations $498.80K
Vegetable plaiting materials, vegetable products $222.05K
Manmade filaments $190.30K
Photographic or cinematographic goods $122.98K
Bird skin, feathers, artificial flowers, human hair $17.03K
Tin $16.24K
Raw hides and skins (other than furskins) and leather $53.30K
Cotton $27.87K
Knitted or crocheted fabric $18.70K
Live trees, plants, bulbs, roots, cut flowers $10.61K
Silk $1.17K
Wool, animal hair, horsehair yarn and fabric $795
Pulp of wood, fibrous cellulosic material, waste $19.7K
Umbrellas, walking-sticks, seat-sticks, whips $657
Manmade staple fibers $554
Cork and articles of cork $8.26K
Zinc $7.26K
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Re: US

Postby Brodlach » Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:42 pm

:-B :-B
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