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[Jimmy_041]

I'm glad Joe managed to Pardon his family and friends on the way out.
God knows what Trump would have done to them

One has to wonder whether he knew what he was doing - has he actually called them out & put a reputational noose around their neck, by doing it?

"Pardons" have some conditions.

Despite Biden saying the pardons were intended to shield his family from politically motivated attacks and should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment of any wrongdoing, that may not be the case: See: Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915)

Here's a summary: https://coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2025 ... eople.html

Also; he has now opened the door for Trump to do the same - including himself.
Unprecedented but so what? It's legal under the Constitution and, no doubt, Trump will do it

[Jimmy_041]

The goal posts continue to move on the hour for Trump/musks supporters regarding this.
- first it was a roman salute. Which by definition is a facist salute
- He has autism, so doesn't understand social cues.
- Haven't heard the olympic one yet


Look what he did two years ago. Apologies won't let me upload the video. So he Know's.

I’ve seen that but I’m not sure of the relevance

Really???

Yes really; please explain

Plus, I'm still trying to understand this

The proud boys and he kkk showered praise on the Elon for doing it... I think that says enough

Proves what? That 2 nutter organisations used it so it proves he meant to do a nazi salute?

[wenchbarwer]

Bloke has some serious issues.

[Jimmy_041]

Bloke has some serious issues.

Life's like a $hit sandwich

The more bread you've got / the less $hit you eat

ATM he reminds me of Russell Casse

[Booney]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5100 ... newspaper/

A political editor for a German newspaper is blasting billionaire Elon Musk over a hand gesture Musk made that has sparked widespread outrage.

“A Hitler Salute is a Hitler Salute is a Hitler Salute,” read the headline on a column by Lenz Jacobsen in the German newspaper Die Zeit.

“The gesture speaks for itself; it’s documented on video. Those who want to see something else in it, who don’t want to see a Hitler salute, do so at their own risk,” Jacobsen wrote. “At its very core, this is about attention — society’s most contested currency, at a time where every image, video, and soundbite vies to be noticed every second of the day. Trump and Musk excel at this game, especially in turning even bad publicity to their advantage. Case in point.”

[wenchbarwer]

Some creative activist work done by Led By Donkeys on Tesla's gigafactory in Berlin

[am Bays]

Bloke has some serious issues.

Fake News?

FWIW, Social media is the last place I go to for facts...

[Jimmy_041]

The recent Democratic leadership needs to be pardoned!

[wenchbarwer]

Fake News?

FWIW, Social media is the last place I go to for facts...

Not fake - https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1882406209187409976

[wenchbarwer]

The recent Democratic leadership needs to be pardoned!

I think I'm done with this thread now...

[Booney]

The recent Democratic leadership needs to be pardoned!

I think I'm done with this thread now...

Yeah it's a bit like politics in general.

[Booney]

There once was a time where political discussion with civil discourse was possible, not any more. Looney left or RWNJ now fills our news feeds with hate from one side of the fence to the other. We once took great joy from a leader just doing a good job.

Labor people admired Howard for his hard line stance on gun reform after the Port Arthur massacre against his National Party mates wishes.

Liberals looked on at Hawke as he reduced income tax and introduced fringe benefit tax and capital gains and they hated it at the time but they never reversed it when they got in when they saw the benefit to the bottom line.

The shit show we live in now where any gronk on either side has a platform to spread hate and mistruths through a podcast or social media is just gross. It's dividing us like we never have before and it's f*cked.

Instead of wanting what's best for our nations we now only want what's best for our own political allegiance because the other side is wrong.

[Trader]

There once was a time where political discussion with civil discourse was possible, not any more. Looney left or RWNJ now fills our news feeds with hate from one side of the fence to the other. We once took great joy from a leader just doing a good job.

Labor people admired Howard for his hard line stance on gun reform after the Port Arthur massacre against his National Party mates wishes.

Liberals looked on at Hawke as he reduced income tax and introduced fringe benefit tax and capital gains and they hated it at the time but they never reversed it when they got in when they saw the benefit to the bottom line.

The shit show we live in now where any gronk on either side has a platform to spread hate and mistruths through a podcast or social media is just gross. It's dividing us like we never have before and it's f*cked.

Instead of wanting what's best for our nations we now only want what's best for our own political allegiance because the other side is wrong.

Correct, politics is no longer about leading a nation, it's about controlling the purse strings and being able to put all your mates into the various positions and contracts that come with it.

And I'd suggests it has gone beyond wanting what's best for your own political allegiance and is now so bad that's its more about preventing the other side from getting what they want, more than you getting what you want.

[am Bays]

There once was a time where political discussion with civil discourse was possible, not any more. Looney left or RWNJ now fills our news feeds with hate from one side of the fence to the other. We once took great joy from a leader just doing a good job.

Labor people admired Howard for his hard line stance on gun reform after the Port Arthur massacre against his National Party mates wishes.

Liberals looked on at Hawke as he reduced income tax and introduced fringe benefit tax and capital gains and they hated it at the time but they never reversed it when they got in when they saw the benefit to the bottom line.

The shit show we live in now where any gronk on either side has a platform to spread hate and mistruths through a podcast or social media is just gross. It's dividing us like we never have before and it's f*cked.

Instead of wanting what's best for our nations we now only want what's best for our own political allegiance because the other side is wrong.

Couldnt agree more, mate.

[Jimmy_041]

There once was a time where political discussion with civil discourse was possible, not any more. Looney left or RWNJ now fills our news feeds with hate from one side of the fence to the other. We once took great joy from a leader just doing a good job.

Labor people admired Howard for his hard line stance on gun reform after the Port Arthur massacre against his National Party mates wishes.

Liberals looked on at Hawke as he reduced income tax and introduced fringe benefit tax and capital gains and they hated it at the time but they never reversed it when they got in when they saw the benefit to the bottom line.

The shit show we live in now where any gronk on either side has a platform to spread hate and mistruths through a podcast or social media is just gross. It's dividing us like we never have before and it's f*cked.

Instead of wanting what's best for our nations we now only want what's best for our own political allegiance because the other side is wrong.

Totally agree.
You only need to spend an hour on X to experience it and it is only getting worse (although some of the memes are very good )
You can defame anyone you want with gay abandon

Now its infiltrating Linkedin which should be business only

The Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024 probably(?) started out with good intentions but then was politically skewed to allowing politicians (the biggest liars in the world), government (no longer fiercely independant) and academics (because they are always so balanced) to continue without similar repercussions.

As for Facebook's community standards - what a joke.

And it's only going to get worse - getting to the point of "not for the faint hearted"

[mighty_tiger_79]

There once was a time where political discussion with civil discourse was possible, not any more. Looney left or RWNJ now fills our news feeds with hate from one side of the fence to the other. We once took great joy from a leader just doing a good job.

Labor people admired Howard for his hard line stance on gun reform after the Port Arthur massacre against his National Party mates wishes.

Liberals looked on at Hawke as he reduced income tax and introduced fringe benefit tax and capital gains and they hated it at the time but they never reversed it when they got in when they saw the benefit to the bottom line.

The shit show we live in now where any gronk on either side has a platform to spread hate and mistruths through a podcast or social media is just gross. It's dividing us like we never have before and it's f*cked.

Instead of wanting what's best for our nations we now only want what's best for our own political allegiance because the other side is wrong.

Yep. It's a disgrace to see how far we've fallen.
Supporting a political side is now like supporting a footy side for some.
Noone can look at the opposing side and recognise good ideas.

[dedja]

One Jan 6 convicted rioter given a Presidential pardon has been shot dead by police.

Only 1499 to go.

[Booney]

They're just working out how tariffs work. Slowly, but they're getting there.

[Kahuna]

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Hopefully.

[Booney]

Well that's Gaza fixed.

What's a Palestinian?