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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:33 pm

PHOS are in Glenelg's zone.

Doesn't matter though as there'd be kids from West who play for PHOS
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:34 pm

Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:I’m told each club has a full time junior coordinator, the one they have now works hard and perhaps the previous one wasn’t quite as hard working. It’s about building relationships and being organized


Just looking at the map you're not blessed with particularly fertile football grounds, bar the Riverland.

Port Road / South Road to Port Road / Sturt Road and surrounds isn't a particularly fertile area rich with top amateur clubs and the Coorong / Mallee areas seem to be more and more about clubs merging than growing.

That must play a role.


Might be time for a recast of the zones then?
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby Brodlach » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:41 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:PHOS are in Glenelg's zone.

Doesn't matter though as there'd be kids from West who play for PHOS

Goes on address than club I think?

Same with Mitcham and Unley
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:41 pm

Brodlach wrote:Guaranteed

There are some very good local clubs though like Goodwood, Plymton, Edwardstown and PHOS (if they are in the zone)


Flagstaff Hill are also in the zone, but have a mix of West, South & Sturt kids
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:42 pm

Brodlach wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:PHOS are in Glenelg's zone.

Doesn't matter though as there'd be kids from West who play for PHOS

Goes on address than club I think?

Same with Mitcham and Unley


100% it does, we changed zones in the mid 2010's
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:49 pm

The magic bullet knowing who's in your catchment zone.

Many moons ago I was involved with the Bays underage stuff, and the U13 carnival they run was great, the Matt Bode cup. Basically had approx. 100 twelve & thirteen year old kids, playing a round robin with the U13 squad picked from that. All those names had an eye kept on them, and were added/removed over the next few years, feeding into the U16s & U18s.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby MW » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:59 pm

Brodlach wrote:Guaranteed

There are some very good local clubs though like Goodwood, Plymton, Edwardstown and PHOS (if they are in the zone)


Goodwood definitely feed West I know that
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby Brodlach » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:01 pm

MW wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Guaranteed

There are some very good local clubs though like Goodwood, Plymton, Edwardstown and PHOS (if they are in the zone)


Goodwood definitely feed West I know that

Yep, was only PHOS I was unsure of.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby Booney » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:02 pm

Div 1
Broadview
Glenunga
Golden Grove
Payneham NU
Port District
Prince Alfred OC
Rostrevor OC
Sacred Heart OC
Salisbury North
St Peter's OC

Div 2
Adelaide Uni
Athelstone
Brighton Bombers
Flinders Park
Goodwood Saints
Henley
Lockleys
Modbury
Old Ignatians
Tea Tree Gully

Div 3
Edwardstown
Hope Valley
Kilburn
North Haven
Pembroke OS
PHOS Camden
Seaton Ramblers
Scotch OC
Unley Mercedes Jets
Westminster OS

Div 4
CBCOC
CLG
Gepps Cross
Hectorville
Kenilworth
Mitcham
Morphettville Park
Plympton
SMOSH West Lakes
Walkerville

Any others in the top 4 in Westies zone?
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby dedja » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:04 pm

Booney wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Booney wrote:In 10 years the $71m is gone?


$45 Mill went to paying off the debt the SANFL accrued in propping up the AFL franchises you know like changes to footy park from 1997-2012

The remaining $$$ has gone to eight SANFL footy clubs

But you already knew that


So $71m-$45m ( I can't find anywhere that states the debt was ever that high ) even with this half century old mush is $26m over 10 years and given it was drip fed to SANFuL clubs was the balance not invested to gain a return?

After the first distribution was there not say $22-24m left gaining interest? Even at a modest return there would be significant interest earnt. Enough almost to cover another years distribution ( basing it on 8 clubs getting the same nominal amount each year ) and so on and so on.

Koch asked where the future fund went and it got swept under the carpet.


SANFL at the end of 2023:

$104M net assets
$4M profit for the year

#-o
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:12 pm

Booney wrote:Div 1
Broadview
Glenunga
Golden Grove
Payneham NU
Port District
Prince Alfred OC
Rostrevor OC
Sacred Heart OC
Salisbury North
St Peter's OC

Div 2
Adelaide Uni
Athelstone
Brighton Bombers
Flinders Park
Goodwood Saints
Henley
Lockleys
Modbury
Old Ignatians
Tea Tree Gully

Div 3
Edwardstown
Hope Valley
Kilburn
North Haven
Pembroke OS
PHOS Camden
Seaton Ramblers
Scotch OC
Unley Mercedes Jets
Westminster OS

Div 4
CBCOC
CLG
Gepps Cross
Hectorville
Kenilworth
Mitcham
Morphettville Park
Plympton
SMOSH West Lakes
Walkerville

Any others in the top 4 in Westies zone?


CLG, Plympton & Kenilworth are in the zone.
There'd be a few Westies kids in the clubs adjacent to their metro zone, too. Mitcham, Unley, Henley, Lockleys, PHOS, Morphy Park, etc.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby am Bays » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:27 pm

dedja wrote:SANFL at the end of 2023:

$104M net assets
$4M profit for the year

#-o


Theres probably funds being diverted into trusts so they dont have to report as high a profit and consequently dont have to distribute money back to.....

**** knows where they got that idea from ;)
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby DTH43 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:28 pm

Brodlach wrote:I’m told each club has a full time junior coordinator, the one they have now works hard and perhaps the previous one wasn’t quite as hard working. It’s about building relationships and being organized


The previous Junior Co Ordinator at West is now the Senior football boss so if that is true then that is not a good sign.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby Brodlach » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:33 pm

DTH43 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:I’m told each club has a full time junior coordinator, the one they have now works hard and perhaps the previous one wasn’t quite as hard working. It’s about building relationships and being organized


The previous Junior Co Ordinator at West is now the Senior football boss so if that is true then that is not a good sign.

I think that is a different person to what I am thinking of.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby Brodlach » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:35 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
Booney wrote:Div 1
Broadview
Glenunga
Golden Grove
Payneham NU
Port District
Prince Alfred OC
Rostrevor OC
Sacred Heart OC
Salisbury North
St Peter's OC

Div 2
Adelaide Uni
Athelstone
Brighton Bombers
Flinders Park
Goodwood Saints
Henley
Lockleys
Modbury
Old Ignatians
Tea Tree Gully

Div 3
Edwardstown
Hope Valley
Kilburn
North Haven
Pembroke OS
PHOS Camden
Seaton Ramblers
Scotch OC
Unley Mercedes Jets
Westminster OS

Div 4
CBCOC
CLG
Gepps Cross
Hectorville
Kenilworth
Mitcham
Morphettville Park
Plympton
SMOSH West Lakes
Walkerville

Any others in the top 4 in Westies zone?


CLG, Plympton & Kenilworth are in the zone.
There'd be a few Westies kids in the clubs adjacent to their metro zone, too. Mitcham, Unley, Henley, Lockleys, PHOS, Morphy Park, etc.



CLG numbers are growing each year to their credit, Kenilworth have none or barely any junior teams.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby am Bays » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:46 pm

So, who's gonna win the flag this year?
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:09 pm

am Bays wrote:
Booney wrote:In 10 years the $71m is gone?


$45 Mill went to paying off the debt the SANFL accrued in propping up the AFL franchises you know like changes to footy park from 1997-2012

The remaining $$$ has gone to eight SANFL footy clubs

But you already knew that


From an ABC news article November 2014:

The SANFL received an immediate payment of $10 million from the deal with Commercial and General, and said the money had been transferred to the AFL to reduce debt.

From 2016, the local league will get progressive payments totalling another $61 million by 2027 during the staged redevelopment of the West Lakes precinct.

Football Commission chairman John Olsen said the sale process had been lengthy.

"We are pleased to have achieved this outcome after a very lengthy and detailed evaluation process," he said.

"By securing an upfront payment of $10 million we have been able to extinguish our debt with the AFL, money we borrowed as part of the $16.25 million we gave to Port Adelaide to keep the club viable ahead of the move to Adelaide Oval.

"AFL football, league football, club football in South Australia will be the beneficiaries - in no debt and [with] the opportunity then to build a future fund for football."

Another article from June 2024:

The SANFL flagged its move to West Lakes in October, pitching a $26.9 million investment in the former AAMI Stadium precinct to use the ground for its state under-16s, under-18s, First Nations and multicultural talent programs.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:33 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Guaranteed

There are some very good local clubs though like Goodwood, Plymton, Edwardstown and PHOS (if they are in the zone)


Flagstaff Hill are also in the zone, but have a mix of West, South & Sturt kids


and Glenelg, there are kids that live 200m from Flaggy oval that are in South's zone (Black Rd in the boundary), all depends on where you live.
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby Jim05 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:51 pm

am Bays wrote:So, who's gonna win the flag this year?
I suspect you already know the answer. Your mob would be the shortest priced favourites in memory
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Re: SANFL 2025

Postby UK Fan » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:13 pm

Booney wrote:
am Bays wrote:
Booney wrote:In 10 years the $71m is gone?


$45 Mill went to paying off the debt the SANFL accrued in propping up the AFL franchises you know like changes to footy park from 1997-2012

The remaining $$$ has gone to eight SANFL footy clubs

But you already knew that


So $71m-$45m ( I can't find anywhere that states the debt was ever that high ) even with this half century old mush is $26m over 10 years and given it was drip fed to SANFuL clubs was the balance not invested to gain a return?

After the first distribution was there not say $22-24m left gaining interest? Even at a modest return there would be significant interest earnt. Enough almost to cover another years distribution ( basing it on 8 clubs getting the same nominal amount each year ) and so on and so on.

Koch asked where the future fund went and it got swept under the carpet.



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