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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:45 pm

mots02 wrote:Did Trav poke all of India or put his finger on ice?


Another one that needs bodyguards on the next Indian tour :lol:

i guess some things don’t translate well, do they? #-o

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mal » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:47 pm

A 19 year old on the debut poked the bear and made a half ton in this current series
He took on the worlds best bowler
Why not- Bumrah averaged about 19 before that game
Might as well upset Bumrah, being nice to him dosent work
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby daysofourlives » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:48 pm

Should be some good quality posting here tomorrow when Konstas makes his first Test century just after lunch. Perhaps he could fist pump and raise his bat a metre or two away from Kohli

Hope he goes with some more chat to Bumrah in the first over or two tomorrow.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:49 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Should be some good quality posting here tomorrow when Konstas makes his first Test century just after lunch. Perhaps he could fist pump and raise his bat a metre or two away from Kohli

Hope he goes with some more chat to Bumrah in the first over or two tomorrow.


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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mal » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:58 pm

OK one more Poke the Bear
May 2003

Sarwan said something very nasty to Glen Ooh Ahh Mcgrath a champion bowler
The date 12/5/2003
It riled up McGrath and The Ozzie team
A day later WI created a world record chase of 7/417 batting last
Mcgrath took 1/50
Sarwan made 105

Yeah dont poke the bear at champions
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Jan 04, 2025 3:33 am

whufc wrote:
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another grub wrote:Wouldnt happen on AB's watch


Didn’t Dean Jones ask Ambrose to take his wrist band off under Borders watch. :lol:


Yes he did, it was in the first final of the World Series Cup in 1992-93

Deano came in at 1-41 chasing 247. He asks Ambrose to take off his sweatbands :roll: Ambrose then goes ballistic and we’re all out 160 runs later Ambrose takes 4 wickets gets five for the match.

Next final we get rolled. Ambrose takes 4 wickets, West Indies win the trophy
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Next test in Adelaide we’re 1-0 up in the Frank Worrell trophy as AB and Richie R toss the coin, Ambrose takes 10 wickets we lose by one run and he get MOTM

Off to Perth next, he takes nine wickets for **** all we lose by an innings and there goes Frank he gets MOTM and MOTS

In three weeks 4 games he basically takes 26 wickets st under 10.

Within a year Deano plays his last game for Australia….

So yeah it’s reallllll smart to sledge good players!!!

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/west-indies-tour-of-australia-1992-93-61905/match-schedule-fixtures-and-results


Yeah because that was the only times the windies beat the Aussies and Ambrose performed well against Australia.


I don’t really blame Jones for asking Ambrose to take his wrist bands off though. He was wearing white wrist bands and bowling with a white ball. There’s no way that should had been allowed.

As for the Adelaide Test loss….. Well Daryl Hair to this day needs a bullet for that final decision.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Booney » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:51 am

am Bays wrote:There’s an old adage in cricket, you don’t sledge the good players because more often than not it comes back to bite you.

The Australians of Waugh Pontings era had simple rule that you didn’t sledge the likes of Lara, Tendulkar Akram and Ambrose you know the jets like Bumrah as is now. We sledge Ambrose twice and While both Jones and S Waugh won the battle, Australia lost the war ( that one day game and that Test)

I got no real problem with konstas having a yap but FFS choose your target!


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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby whufc » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:03 am

Booney wrote:
am Bays wrote:There’s an old adage in cricket, you don’t sledge the good players because more often than not it comes back to bite you.

The Australians of Waugh Pontings era had simple rule that you didn’t sledge the likes of Lara, Tendulkar Akram and Ambrose you know the jets like Bumrah as is now. We sledge Ambrose twice and While both Jones and S Waugh won the battle, Australia lost the war ( that one day game and that Test)

I got no real problem with konstas having a yap but FFS choose your target!


Good to know someone understands. :lol:


Like others had said, being a nice guy to Bumrah seemed to be biting us on the arse a fair bit as well :lol:

Wasn’t like Bumrah was going at 23’s until Konstas come along and all a sudden is averaging 19 a wicket now

And don’t worry a lot of the old adages are dying by the day like a test opener doesn charge down the pitch first ball. Times have changed brother.

If we still listened to old adage we would never have got to witness Smith or Bumrah because their techniques weren’t for test cricket. Just because some old blokes being saying it for years doesn’t make it right.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Brodlach » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:08 am

I have always admired Virat as he is really a great player but with an arrogant attitude.

The way he has acted on this tour really has taken some of that admiration away for me. Acting poorly , playing poorly, that’s not really him.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Dark Knight » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:49 am

jackpot jim wrote:on a side note i dont think i can recall a Summer in Australia so tough for batting.
All 5 pitches played on so far have been favourable for pace bowlers generally throughout the matches.
Spinners have hardly got a look in.
Been a few great tons against the odds but generally the batters from both sides are bruised, battered and devoid of confidence with some falling by the wayside and career ending as well probably? (Rohit, Khawaja, Marsh) . McSweeney should get another chance. Kholi has been exposed and the end is near.

Been trending this way for a little while (since 2020/2021) in both Shield cricket and test cricket because of the pitches like you mentioned and mainly the reconditioned Kookaburra Ball with their reinforced seam and extra lacquer. The ball changes is having a significant impact on batting in Australia.

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby am Bays » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:06 am

daysofourlives wrote:Should be some good quality posting here tomorrow when Konstas makes his first Test century just after lunch. Perhaps he could fist pump and raise his bat a metre or two away from Kohli

Hope he goes with some more chat to Bumrah in the first over or two tomorrow.


So do I

I hope he goes big and if I was him I would be have “dialogue” with Siraj. Hare Krishna Viral, and others to get them off their game.

I wouldn’t be risking getting Bumrah going from normal Curtly areas of a wicket every 9 overs at 20 down to a wicket every 4 overs at under 10 like curtly did back in late January 1993.

M Waugh just summed it up beautifully.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby whufc » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:12 am

Would love to know what viewership this morning gets

Saturday morning, no junior sport across the country.

Could be huge on the ratings
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby another grub » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:15 am

I would be getting back in my box and playing proper cricket shots
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Dark Knight » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:27 am

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby am Bays » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:29 am

whufc wrote:Would love to know what viewership this morning gets

Saturday morning, no junior sport across the country.

Could be huge on the ratings


Going to be up there. I’m looking to seeing if Konstas can let his bat do the talking.

Or to put it another way, can his bat cash the cheques his mouth is writing… ;)
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby daysofourlives » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:46 am

am Bays wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Should be some good quality posting here tomorrow when Konstas makes his first Test century just after lunch. Perhaps he could fist pump and raise his bat a metre or two away from Kohli

Hope he goes with some more chat to Bumrah in the first over or two tomorrow.


So do I

I hope he goes big and if I was him I would be have “dialogue” with Siraj. Hare Krishna Viral, and others to get them off their game.

I wouldn’t be risking getting Bumrah going from normal Curtly areas of a wicket every 9 overs at 20 down to a wicket every 4 overs at under 10 like curtly did back in late January 1993.

M Waugh just summed it up beautifully.


We dont know yet if Bumrah bowls better being fired up, i say its worth a shot because being nice hasnt worked. Its a small sample size of two balls and Khawaja is a bunny these days.
What we do know is he didnt handle Konstas coming at him in the first innings in Melbourne.
Have we been that bereft of quality fast bowlers in the world that Bumrah is being rated higher than the great West Indians. I know id rather face him than any of them. The Aussies havent played good fast bowling well for a long time, probably since Ponting. The pitches are favoring the bowlers more now.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:58 am

LOL, Bumrah could have had Konstas out 8 times if he wasn’t KOTD in that first innings.

There are no winners when trying to compare players from different eras, it’s an impossible task. There is no doubt Bumrah is a world class bowler, where he sits in history is for another day.

Australia are 1/9, and Konstas has put enormous pressure on himself when he didn’t need to. If he gets out early then we’re 2 for FA and he looks like a dick, and the last Test has shown that Bumrah isn’t a worse bowler fired up.

Anyway, we’ll going to get some answers in a few minutes.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Armchair expert » Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:00 am

I want to see a reverse sweep first ball, NO FEAR SAM
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mal » Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:04 am

The worlds best bowler , and one of the calmest , should be dominating a teenager with a extra large BIG ego
IF they dueled in a 5 Test series, over 10 innings , I would expect the champ to win about 7 or 8 off 10 encounters

The sample size Bumrah v Konstas this series stands at 1-1 with 2 innings left
If it ends Bumrah 3-1 thats expected- but more of expectation is that the dont poke the bear advocates will be in force
If it ends 2-2 then its a decent win for Sammy
If Sammy wins 3-1 ....

Im tipping 3-1 Bumrah
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby whufc » Sat Jan 04, 2025 10:07 am

mal wrote:The worlds best bowler , and one of the calmest , should be dominating a teenager with a extra large BIG ego
IF they dueled in a 5 Test series, over 10 innings , I would expect the champ to win about 7 or 8 off 10 encounters

The sample size Bumrah v Konstas this series stands at 1-1 with 2 innings left
If it ends Bumrah 3-1 thats expected- but more of expectation is that the dont poke the bear advocates will be in force
If it ends 2-2 then its a decent win for Sammy
If Sammy wins 3-1 ....

Im tipping 3-1 Bumrah


Agree mal, I’m expecting Konstas to fail, but I think there is definitely enough to work with there that a refined version is a decent test cricketer.
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