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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:51 pm

How long before Smith gets out LBW again
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:25 pm

Smith gone
Painful watching him bat

Head on the other hand is having a go
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby dedja » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:01 pm

Hooray, there’ll be another session … =D>
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:11 pm

dedja wrote:Hooray, there’ll be another session … =D>


Take you through to the end of work.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Booney » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:24 pm

63* at lunch. 10 years to the day.

Unbelievable.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mots02 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:13 pm

Trav... #-o
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby locky801 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:48 pm

Bison now out, the end is not too far off one would think
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mal » Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:08 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
mal wrote:While you are at it TDK
How many of the current Indian players have beards ?
10? Jaiswal doesn't have a beard/facial hair.


Travis Head 89[101] Ausralia's highest score this test
Has a half grown beard
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby locky801 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:38 pm

mal wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
mal wrote:While you are at it TDK
How many of the current Indian players have beards ?
10? Jaiswal doesn't have a beard/facial hair.


Travis Head 89[101] Ausralia's highest score this test
Has a half grown beard


and carrying a few extras kilos it seems, didnt affect his batting though ;)
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mal » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:07 pm

locky801 wrote:
mal wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
mal wrote:While you are at it TDK
How many of the current Indian players have beards ?
10? Jaiswal doesn't have a beard/facial hair.


Travis Head 89[101] Ausralia's highest score this test
Has a half grown beard


and carrying a few extras kilos it seems, didnt affect his batting though ;)


Bumrah carrying weight as well, didnt seem to affect his bowling though ;)
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:17 pm

Get yourself some red ink Alex

take the singles
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Armchair expert » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:18 pm

Literally next ball, he should have listened to me.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby locky801 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:21 pm

thankfully that pain is over

Looking forward to the next test with a weakened Indian side

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:22 pm

Piss Marnus off for good
Hunt to open with Uzi
Smith at 3
McSweeney at 4
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby mal » Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:39 pm

How I rate the bowling attacks in order of greatness

1 BUMRAH
2 CUMMINS
3 HAZELWOOD
4 LYON
5 STARc
6 SIRAJ
7 RANA
8 SUNDAR

If i have 4 Oz bowlers in the top 5 we should be winning not thrashed
Especially on a pitch with as much bounce as Dolly Parton's chest
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:38 pm

The teams results in recent years has earnt the right blokes to get a longer run but for mine Labuschagne has to be dropped to set a standard for performance.

I dont think you can throw in a young guy against the quality of Bumrah, thats a death sentence as we saw for McSweeney.

I would be going:

1. Khawaja
2. Head
3. McSweeney
4. Smith
5. Marsh
6. Konstas
7. Carey
8. Starc
9. Cummins
10. Lyon
11. Hazelwood

The interesting two is Hilton Cartwright.....averaging 61 this season with 1 hundred and 2 50's. Has a career average of 37 which is as good as most these days.

The other one is Kurtis Patterson....4 innings this season averaging 81 with 4 x 50's. Has hit a test match ton.

Both are 32 years old though.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:33 pm

Australia lose consecutive home tests for the first time since 2016.
And I just read this stat- Australia have played in 240 Test series, won 134 but only 4 after losing the first test (which leads into a stat from the Cricinfo Day 4 stats article)-

0 Test series won by Australia at home since 1970 after losing the series opener. They have lost the first Test of a home series nine times since 1970, and have gone on to lose the series eight times.

4-1 Australia suffered defeat for the first time in Test matches at the Perth Stadium, having won the previous four. The team batting first has won all five Tests at the venue.

150 India's first-innings total in Perth. Only twice have India won Test matches with lower first-innings totals - 104 all out against Australia in the 2004 Wankhede Test, and 145 against England in the 2021 Ahmedabad Test.

295 India's win margin in Perth is the second-biggest by runs in Tests for any team to have been bowled out for 150 or less in their first innings. The biggest such win was by 343 runs for West Indies, who defeated Australia in the 1991 Bridgetown Test despite a first-innings total of 149 all out.

2 The 295-run defeat in Perth is Australia's second-biggest in terms of runs at home in the last 40 years. Their biggest defeat in this period was by 309 runs against South Africa at the WACA in 2012.

It is also their second-biggest defeat by runs against India in Tests, behind the 320-run loss in the 2008 Mohali Test.

2 Bigger Test wins away from home for India than their 295-run win in Perth. India won by 318 runs against West Indies in Antigua in 2019 and by 304 runs against Sri Lanka in the 2017 Galle Test.

342 Runs aggregated by Australia in the Perth Test, their second-fewest in a home Test since 2000 when they have been bowled out twice. Their lowest was 246 runs against South Africa in the 2016 Hobart Test.

Australia's 342-run aggregate was also their fourth-lowest in a Test match against India and their lowest against them at home.

9.00 Jasprit Bumrah's bowling average in the Perth Test, where he finished with match figures of 8 for 72. Only two India bowlers have recorded a better bowling average in an away Test while taking eight or more wickets.

It was the fifth instance of Bumrah taking eight or more wickets in a Test match while conceding less than 100 runs. Only R Ashwin (7) has done it more often than Bumrah among India bowlers.

57 Runs aggregated by Australia's top five in Perth, the third lowest for them in a men's Test and their lowest since 1888.

2.27 The ratio between the Test caps of Australia and India's playing XIs coming into Perth, the fourth-highest ratio between the Test caps of the opposition and India's playing XI when they have won.

Their highest ratio was 2.83 when they defeated Australia in the 2001 Chennai Test and 2.51 when they beat England earlier this year in Vishakhapatnam. The ratio between Test caps of Australia and India in the famous 2021 Brisbane Test win was 2.35.

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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Aerie » Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:08 am

The form of Smith, Labuschagne and Khawaja is worrying. None have scored a century since the Ashes in England and they don't look like scoring one any time soon, especially Marnus. Usually you'd go the same XI for the 2nd Test, but that loss was alarming and warrants change.

Labuschagne and Smith it seems have said where they want to bat. I thought Labuschagne was the one who should have opened when Warner left. Smith decided he wanted to last summer, then wanted to go back to 4 for this summer. I'd be dropping Labuschagne, giving him a chance to play a Shield game and then he might loosen up a bit in the BBL and with a strong end to the Shield season, be ready to return. And I'd be sending Smith to 6 for the Adelaide Oval Test. Mitch Marsh to bat at 3 to counter-attack the Indian opening bowlers, Webster to come in down the order on the back of 12 plus months of great Shield form. Australia don't like to do this with their keepers, but for a one-off Test match in Adelaide and in the form he is in, bat Carey at 4.

For the Gabba, revert to Smith 4, Webster 6, Carey 7.

2nd Test
Khawaja
McSweeney
Marsh
Carey
Head
Smith
Webster
Starc
Cummins
Lyon
Hazlewood
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:42 am

whufc wrote:The teams results in recent years has earnt the right blokes to get a longer run but for mine Labuschagne has to be dropped to set a standard for performance.

I dont think you can throw in a young guy against the quality of Bumrah, thats a death sentence as we saw for McSweeney.

I would be going:

1. Khawaja
2. Head
3. McSweeney
4. Smith
5. Marsh
6. Konstas
7. Carey
8. Starc
9. Cummins
10. Lyon
11. Hazelwood

The interesting two is Hilton Cartwright.....averaging 61 this season with 1 hundred and 2 50's. Has a career average of 37 which is as good as most these days.

The other one is Kurtis Patterson....4 innings this season averaging 81 with 4 x 50's. Has hit a test match ton.

Both are 32 years old though.


I don't get the fascination of Travis opening, he has been one of our two most consistent performers over the past 3-4 years batting at 5, why f*** with something that works most of the time.

We can't continue to wallpaper our problems, we need to take the hit and develop an opener, at least by facing Bumrah as an opener early in your career it will strengthen your skillset against anyone else that you come up against.

Marnus absolutely dazzled us when he came on the scene, Smith was already brilliant, them two together in their prime were a pure delight to watch (apart from the idiosyncrasies) but unfortunately I think their expiry dates have approached, well Marnus' has anyway IMO.

We need a changing of the guard, we need to be hard-nosed again, we're not broken, just bent, I think the lack of test cricket over the past 10 months has hurt us as well as the poor preparation, I have faith in us bouncing back.

FWIW, I think the pink ball test is a farce, there is a huge advantage to the team that can enable the opposition to face the new ball during the early evening.
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Re: Australian International Summer 2024/25

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:00 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:The teams results in recent years has earnt the right blokes to get a longer run but for mine Labuschagne has to be dropped to set a standard for performance.

I dont think you can throw in a young guy against the quality of Bumrah, thats a death sentence as we saw for McSweeney.

I would be going:

1. Khawaja
2. Head
3. McSweeney
4. Smith
5. Marsh
6. Konstas
7. Carey
8. Starc
9. Cummins
10. Lyon
11. Hazelwood

The interesting two is Hilton Cartwright.....averaging 61 this season with 1 hundred and 2 50's. Has a career average of 37 which is as good as most these days.

The other one is Kurtis Patterson....4 innings this season averaging 81 with 4 x 50's. Has hit a test match ton.

Both are 32 years old though.


I don't get the fascination of Travis opening, he has been one of our two most consistent performers over the past 3-4 years batting at 5, why f*** with something that works most of the time.

We can't continue to wallpaper our problems, we need to take the hit and develop an opener, at least by facing Bumrah as an opener early in your career it will strengthen your skillset against anyone else that you come up against.

Marnus absolutely dazzled us when he came on the scene, Smith was already brilliant, them two together in their prime were a pure delight to watch (apart from the idiosyncrasies) but unfortunately I think their expiry dates have approached, well Marnus' has anyway IMO.

We need a changing of the guard, we need to be hard-nosed again, we're not broken, just bent, I think the lack of test cricket over the past 10 months has hurt us as well as the poor preparation, I have faith in us bouncing back.

FWIW, I think the pink ball test is a farce, there is a huge advantage to the team that can enable the opposition to face the new ball during the early evening.


I don't disagree but also if you are looking at 100% being all in to win this series there is not a single guy in the country who is capable of doing the job this series.

I really hope McSweeney makes it but lets not kid ourselves he was all at sea and could barely get the ball of the square. Fingers crossed he can find a way in the next few tests, really hoping he can.

Anyone else we place in there is a lamb to the slaughter and we might as well just start 2/0.

A bit like how our number threes used to start at number six and then move up weve had a fair bit of luck in recent times starting blokes in the middle order and turning them into openers. Khawaja, Watson, Langer, Katich all come to mind.
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