2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

[Jimmy_041]

If a player is paid to be a coach/consultant etc for a school team, is any of that payment counted in the salary cap for the club?

You forgot to ask about if some A Graders are given great salaries to coach junior teams in their club

same / same but different?

[wenchbarwer]

If a player is paid to be a coach/consultant etc for a school team, is any of that payment counted in the salary cap for the club?

You forgot to ask about if some A Graders are given great salaries to coach junior teams in their club

same / same but different?

This is why I laughed when someone mentioned earlier about the salary cap being effective. All the salary cap means is creative accounting is required.

[Down the Hill]

Not quite same / same Jimmy. This is straight out of the Player Payment rules.

4.2 Coaching Payment
a) Any Senior Coach shall receive not more than twenty thousand dollars ($20,000) for the coaching services of the Senior team in a financial year.
b) Any Senior Coach that receives payment for playing services in respect of any Match in which he plays that exceeds the $20,000 coach fee limit shall be included as a Football Payment. Any Football Payment made to a Senior Coach must comply with clause 3 (a) (vi).
c) Any Senior Coach that receives payment for coaching services of the senior team must enter into a Contract with the Affiliated League Club as required under clause 5 (i).
d) A player may be paid up to $1,000 per annum for providing the Head Coaching service to any grade, other than the A Grade.
e) Notwithstanding clause 4.2 (d). All Remuneration paid to a Player who is also performing any other coaching role with a team of a Club, other than the Senior coach, will be deemed to be a Football
Payment.

[Brodlach]

As a scenario, if Rory Laird left Adelaide and went to St Iggies as a football consultant on $80k a year for 10 hours a week for 20 weeks and part of his position is to play at the club.

Is any counted? Could potentially earn $30-$40k at SANFL or country


This is just a scenario, names are just added with no malice intended or implied

[wenchbarwer]

I guess this is where the difference between a club's junior side and a school's junior side comes in to play.

Technically, a school side isn't a club's lower grade team. So you would assume the payment is exempt from the cap.

[wenchbarwer]

As a scenario, if Rory Laird left Adelaide and went to St Iggies as a football consultant on $80k a year for 10 hours a week for 20 weeks and part of his position is to play at the club.

Is any counted? Could potentially earn $30-$40k at SANFL or country


This is just a scenario, names are just added with no malice intended or implied

The footy club would have to be stupid to have any of that in writing. You'd have the footy consultant gig as a contract, and that's it.

Oh, and he's also running around for Old Iggies, totally unrelated...

[whufc]

As a scenario, if Rory Laird left Adelaide and went to St Iggies as a football consultant on $80k a year for 10 hours a week for 20 weeks and part of his position is to play at the club.

Is any counted? Could potentially earn $30-$40k at SANFL or country


This is just a scenario, names are just added with no malice intended or implied

The footy club would have to be stupid to have any of that in writing. You'd have the footy consultant gig as a contract, and that's it.

Oh, and he's also running around for Old Iggies, totally unrelated...

The stupid part would be at the end of that season if Rory Laird decided to move clubs you couldn't necessarily sack him as a football consultant. He would be covered by fairwork etc as a work contract. You would need to either make the position redundant or somehow performance manage him out of a job. Unless you made the job a fixed term contract for 6 months or whatever.

[The Old Fellow]

The stupid part would be at the end of that season if Rory Laird decided to move clubs you couldn't necessarily sack him as a football consultant. He would be covered by fairwork etc as a work contract. You would need to either make the position redundant or somehow performance manage him out of a job. Unless you made the job a fixed term contract for 6 months or whatever.[/quote]

You would ensure that his hours to consult include observing the senior team all times they are playing so he couldn't move clubs. When he is no further benefit to the club ie not playing you make the position redundant.

[am Bays]

The stupid part would be at the end of that season if Rory Laird decided to move clubs you couldn't necessarily sack him as a football consultant. He would be covered by fairwork etc as a work contract. You would need to either make the position redundant or somehow performance manage him out of a job. Unless you made the job a fixed term contract for 6 months or whatever.

You would ensure that his hours to consult include observing the senior team all times they are playing so he couldn't move clubs. When he is no further benefit to the club ie not playing you make the position redundant.

Make it annual yearly contracts, just dont renew it

[whufc]

The stupid part would be at the end of that season if Rory Laird decided to move clubs you couldn't necessarily sack him as a football consultant. He would be covered by fairwork etc as a work contract. You would need to either make the position redundant or somehow performance manage him out of a job. Unless you made the job a fixed term contract for 6 months or whatever.

You would ensure that his hours to consult include observing the senior team all times they are playing so he couldn't move clubs. When he is no further benefit to the club ie not playing you make the position redundant.[/quote]

You do a redundancy then you can only do this once, would be a nightmare trying to create a new rule that doesn’t protect bloke under redundancy law.

[The Big Shrek]

Ned McHenry coaching PAOC is definitely not a work around for the salary cap.

He’s playing for the love of the college too! Definitely no assistance elsewhere being given.

[Brodlach]

If a player is paid to be a coach/consultant etc for a school team, is any of that payment counted in the salary cap for the club?

[Bluedemon]

Ned McHenry coaching PAOC is definitely not a work around for the salary cap.

He’s playing for the love of the college too! Definitely no assistance elsewhere being given.

I thought he might have given the SANFL a go this year before doing some coaching

[Down the Hill]

He's only 24. I doubt coaching was on his radar this decade let alone next year. This is where the SANFL is getting seriously challenged by Community Football. The demands on players with little reward for the majority is something the SANFL and the SANFL clubs must address. It won't be addressed by more $ if the money simply isn't there so they need to consider some sort of restrictions on training requirements of players etc. to save the clubs from themselves.

[wenchbarwer]

https://sanfl-content.imgix.net/content ... y-2024.pdf

if I read this correctly, he can legally get 20K per year, plus $650 a game. About 32K for the year, above board.

Would he get $1650 a game in the SANFL?

[amber_fluid]

I can’t recall a younger coach at any level of footy in my time.
I know he’s been in the AFL system for a few years but coaching is another ball game.
Does appear he’s got good assistants luckily for him

[amber_fluid]

https://sanfl-content.imgix.net/content/uploads/2024/05/21155059/Player-Payment-Key-Areas-Summary-2024.pdf

if I read this correctly, he can legally get 20K per year, plus $650 a game. About 32K for the year, above board.

Would he get $1650 a game in the SANFL?

Nope.
I assume that’s why he’s the coach by ‘name’.
How much coaching will he actually do?
Time will tell

[wenchbarwer]

https://sanfl-content.imgix.net/content/uploads/2024/05/21155059/Player-Payment-Key-Areas-Summary-2024.pdf

if I read this correctly, he can legally get 20K per year, plus $650 a game. About 32K for the year, above board.

Would he get $1650 a game in the SANFL?

Nope.
I assume that’s why he’s the coach by ‘name’.
How much coaching will he actually do?
Time will tell

Reminds me a young fella in the country who wanted a transfer to another club within the league.

Went as a playing coach, as that way the transfer couldn't be refused (it was a bit petty back then).

As he was only about 22 or 23 at the time, a league offical went to pretty much every preseason training to ensure he was actually coaching.

[amber_fluid]

Wasn’t McHenry one of Vamos favourites?
He’ll be able to hurl abuse at him over the fence at Largs oval next season

[Brodlach]

https://sanfl-content.imgix.net/content/uploads/2024/05/21155059/Player-Payment-Key-Areas-Summary-2024.pdf

if I read this correctly, he can legally get 20K per year, plus $650 a game. About 32K for the year, above board.

Would he get $1650 a game in the SANFL?

$32k, cute.