2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

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Who will win the M1 Premiership?

Broadview
0
No votes
Glenunga
5
24%
Golden Grove
3
14%
Payneham NU
2
10%
Port District
6
29%
Prince Alfred OC
0
No votes
Rostrevor OC
1
5%
Sacred Heart OC
2
10%
Salisbury North
2
10%
St Peter's OC
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 21

Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby wenchbarwer » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:55 pm

The Bedge wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:So, in theory, there's nothing stopping the reigning Div 1 premier from adding an ex AFL or SANFL player each season.

I'm sure other clubs would pipe up about a possible points reduction if that were the case. Interesting scenario, especially given the group of ex-Pear players forming at Dizzies. Imagine if they added Boak after 2025, Finlayson after 2026, etc.

There's nothing stopping any club from doing that - if they can fit the 4pts in their list.


Just looking at the angle of the top side winning flags year after year with no limit on recruiting. Lower divisions obviously get promoted and therefore face tougher opposition, but where is the restraint for any Div 1 club to discourage a monopoly?
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby wenchbarwer » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:57 pm

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Down the Hill wrote:Every AdFL club in every division gets the standard 15 points per season. Thats the beauty of multiple divisions and promotion and relegation. No need to put in place other equalisation measures.


So, in theory, there's nothing stopping the reigning Div 1 premier from adding an ex AFL or SANFL player each season.

I'm sure other clubs would pipe up about a possible points reduction if that were the case. Interesting scenario, especially given the group of ex-Pear players forming at Dizzies. Imagine if they added Boak after 2025, Finlayson after 2026, etc.


But for D1 has had 7 different premiers in the last decade (and has had premiers subsequently relegated to D2)

Wouldn't have thought many country comps have that level of competitive tension.

Between points and salary cap D1 in particular seems to be doing a pretty good job of self regulating from a competitive balance standpoint.


Yeah, I get all that, just playing Devil's advocate for PD becoming a master's team for the Pear and winning all the flags, that's all :lol:
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:59 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
jo172 wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:Every AdFL club in every division gets the standard 15 points per season. Thats the beauty of multiple divisions and promotion and relegation. No need to put in place other equalisation measures.


So, in theory, there's nothing stopping the reigning Div 1 premier from adding an ex AFL or SANFL player each season.

I'm sure other clubs would pipe up about a possible points reduction if that were the case. Interesting scenario, especially given the group of ex-Pear players forming at Dizzies. Imagine if they added Boak after 2025, Finlayson after 2026, etc.


But for D1 has had 7 different premiers in the last decade (and has had premiers subsequently relegated to D2)

Wouldn't have thought many country comps have that level of competitive tension.

Between points and salary cap D1 in particular seems to be doing a pretty good job of self regulating from a competitive balance standpoint.


Yeah, I get all that, just playing Devil's advocate for PD becoming a master's team for the Pear and winning all the flags, that's all :lol:


No different for all Div 1 sides that align with sanfl clubs
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby The Bedge » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:00 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:Just looking at the angle of the top side winning flags year after year with no limit on recruiting. Lower divisions obviously get promoted and therefore face tougher opposition, but where is the restraint for any Div 1 club to discourage a monopoly?

15 points isn't a lot - and if you retain all your players, then adding an ex-AFL player is only allowing you to add 1 players. You'd have to keep your squad together for 2-3 years before being able to top up again.

2024: 5 x 3 pts = 15
2025: 5 x 2 pts = 10 + 4 (AFL) = 14
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby jo172 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:08 pm

Also while PD were really good and deserved premiers hardly as if they were smashing everyone.

Came 3rd winning 11/18 games during the regular season.
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby locky801 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:20 pm

jo172 wrote:Also while PD were really good and deserved premiers hardly as if they were smashing everyone.

Came 3rd winning 11/18 games during the regular season.


Timed their run to perfection, still rated them higher against us in the 2 games this season than Glenunga although Glenunga truly belted us
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby jo172 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:43 pm

locky801 wrote:
jo172 wrote:Also while PD were really good and deserved premiers hardly as if they were smashing everyone.

Came 3rd winning 11/18 games during the regular season.


Timed their run to perfection, still rated them higher against us in the 2 games this season than Glenunga although Glenunga truly belted us


Couldn't agree more.
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby Down the Hill » Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:24 pm

Lycett was 5 points because he played predominantly AFL in his previous 2 seasons. A SANFL player who does the same is 4 points. I say well done to them for bringing in the likes of Gray and Lycett the last few years. Adds to the profile and quality of the league. PD’s run to the flag was also down to how they managed Lycett. They saved him from major ruck duty until later in the season and he was dominant when it counted.
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby locky801 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:30 pm

Down the Hill wrote:Lycett was 5 points because he played predominantly AFL in his previous 2 seasons. A SANFL player who does the same is 4 points. I say well done to them for bringing in the likes of Gray and Lycett the last few years. Adds to the profile and quality of the league. PD’s run to the flag was also down to how they managed Lycett. They saved him from major ruck duty until later in the season and he was dominant when it counted.


Thing with Districts is they were not and are not reliant on just those players, they have a damn talented list and very well managed and coached
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby MoP » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:04 am

The Bedge wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:Just looking at the angle of the top side winning flags year after year with no limit on recruiting. Lower divisions obviously get promoted and therefore face tougher opposition, but where is the restraint for any Div 1 club to discourage a monopoly?

15 points isn't a lot - and if you retain all your players, then adding an ex-AFL player is only allowing you to add 1 players. You'd have to keep your squad together for 2-3 years before being able to top up again.

2024: 5 x 3 pts = 15
2025: 5 x 2 pts = 10 + 4 (AFL) = 14


A Club could potentially do it every 2 years, 'cos players drop an extra point after that. ie. a 3-point player is worth 2 points next season, then 0 points in the season after that (providing he's played 20 games for the Club).
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:23 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:So, in theory, there's nothing stopping the reigning Div 1 premier from adding an ex AFL or SANFL player each season.

I'm sure other clubs would pipe up about a possible points reduction if that were the case. Interesting scenario, especially given the group of ex-Pear players forming at Dizzies. Imagine if they added Boak after 2025, Finlayson after 2026, etc.

There's nothing stopping any club from doing that - if they can fit the 4pts in their list.


Just looking at the angle of the top side winning flags year after year with no limit on recruiting. Lower divisions obviously get promoted and therefore face tougher opposition, but where is the restraint for any Div 1 club to discourage a monopoly?


Free market conditions work
PAOC were in the last 3 GFs but was one game off finishing bottom this year.
There's nothing wrong with having a player pipeline for, say, a 5 year rolling period
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby Point man » Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:35 pm

Its been a bit easier for districts with alot of these players are long time mates who just happen to be bloody good footballers. A brand spanking new footy club coming up and should be close to ready for the 2026 season. Away teams will have to change in a transportable the coming season as away rooms are part of the demolition.
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby stealthbomber » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:35 pm

PNU racking them up in terms of recruits - do they have the coaching capability/prowess to bring it home?
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby Bluedemon » Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:32 pm

stealthbomber wrote:PNU racking them up in terms of recruits - do they have the coaching capability/prowess to bring it home?


aren't some of those players that were recruited are PNU juniors
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby jo172 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:41 pm

Point man wrote:Its been a bit easier for districts with alot of these players are long time mates who just happen to be bloody good footballers. A brand spanking new footy club coming up and should be close to ready for the 2026 season. Away teams will have to change in a transportable the coming season as away rooms are part of the demolition.


Somewhat of a shame, loved the old PD clubrooms. Had a good feel of old school authenticity about them while still being reasonably comfortable.

Sure it will be great, but can't shake that all these new clubroom developments lose a bit of the soul of what preceded them.
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Oct 25, 2024 11:57 am

jo172 wrote:
Point man wrote:Its been a bit easier for districts with alot of these players are long time mates who just happen to be bloody good footballers. A brand spanking new footy club coming up and should be close to ready for the 2026 season. Away teams will have to change in a transportable the coming season as away rooms are part of the demolition.


Somewhat of a shame, loved the old PD clubrooms. Had a good feel of old school authenticity about them while still being reasonably comfortable.

Sure it will be great, but can't shake that all these new clubroom developments lose a bit of the soul of what preceded them.


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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby Brodlach » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:14 pm

If a player is paid to be a coach/consultant etc for a school team, is any of that payment counted in the salary cap for the club?
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby wenchbarwer » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:23 pm

Brodlach wrote:If a player is paid to be a coach/consultant etc for a school team, is any of that payment counted in the salary cap for the club?


I think we all know the answer to this one :lol:
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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby Brodlach » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:50 pm

wenchbarwer wrote:
Brodlach wrote:If a player is paid to be a coach/consultant etc for a school team, is any of that payment counted in the salary cap for the club?


I think we all know the answer to this one :lol:


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Re: 2025 Adelaide Footy League - Division 1

Postby scottroo » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:53 pm

Technically it shouldn’t be, jobs are always a massive part of recruiting, if that job is being paid at a normal rate then it should be all good?
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