The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

All discussions to do with the SANFL

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby gazzamagoo » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:41 am

TDJ44 wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:Furthermore, how does this benefit MY CLUB!!

Why would Greg Edwards believe that this is the way to go?
Might be a drop in memberships after this, as it seems that a members opinion means nothing.


Should the SANFL members have been consulted?
Or don't members have a say in this sort of matter.
gazzamagoo
League - Top 5
 
 
Posts: 2828
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:48 pm
Has liked: 1775 times
Been liked: 711 times
Grassroots Team: Salisbury

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby whufc » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:42 am

gazzamagoo wrote:
southernbulldog wrote:So basically we need to sign as many as we can so they cant go to the AFL teams


But players that think they've got a chance of being picked up won't sign until the very cut off point, this isn't good at all.


Yeah its a lot like the soccer world.

It's all good and well to have a contract with a player but if the Power/Crows come knocking and the club denies a player that move how well does the player react. Some will be fine and get on with the job and others not so great and performance/effort will drop.
RIP PH408 63notoutforever
User avatar
whufc
Coach
 
 
Posts: 28532
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:56 am
Location: Blakeview
Has liked: 5903 times
Been liked: 2812 times
Grassroots Team: BSR

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby gazzamagoo » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:48 am

whufc wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:
southernbulldog wrote:So basically we need to sign as many as we can so they cant go to the AFL teams


But players that think they've got a chance of being picked up won't sign until the very cut off point, this isn't good at all.


Yeah its a lot like the soccer world.

It's all good and well to have a contract with a player but if the Power/Crows come knocking and the club denies a player that move how well does the player react. Some will be fine and get on with the job and others not so great and performance/effort will drop.


I think a clause in said contract along the lines of "should the interlopers come a knocking, then contracted player has the option of leaving,"
at least it gets the player secured.
gazzamagoo
League - Top 5
 
 
Posts: 2828
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:48 pm
Has liked: 1775 times
Been liked: 711 times
Grassroots Team: Salisbury

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby whufc » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:06 am

gazzamagoo wrote:
whufc wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:
southernbulldog wrote:So basically we need to sign as many as we can so they cant go to the AFL teams


But players that think they've got a chance of being picked up won't sign until the very cut off point, this isn't good at all.


Yeah its a lot like the soccer world.

It's all good and well to have a contract with a player but if the Power/Crows come knocking and the club denies a player that move how well does the player react. Some will be fine and get on with the job and others not so great and performance/effort will drop.


I think a clause in said contract along the lines of "should the interlopers come a knocking, then contracted player has the option of leaving,"
at least it gets the player secured.


Thats going to be the balance isnt it. What the clubs need / require vs whats enough that players feel their ambitions are suitably accounted for in the contract. Otherwise they will continue to pack up and chase the ammo/country $$$
RIP PH408 63notoutforever
User avatar
whufc
Coach
 
 
Posts: 28532
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:56 am
Location: Blakeview
Has liked: 5903 times
Been liked: 2812 times
Grassroots Team: BSR

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby wenchbarwer » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:44 am

DOC wrote:Craig Burton on C7 trying to explain the sellout.

“We have gone further than we would have liked but sometimes you have to do that to get a result”

Yep. WAFDH.

Darren Chandler makes it worse.

“We have told both Port and Adelaide that we want them to be part of the SANFL after the current contract expires in 2028”.

Yep. WAFDH

So after getting what they want to the detriment of the 8 clubs, Adelaide and Port have both issued a statement.

“We still wish to leave”

What a complete and utter cockup.


Where are the Ravens and the Pear ressies going to go? There is no AFL reserves comp, the AFL seem to have made it very clear that they have no intention of funding that.

If they want to leave, let them leave. Why ruin what little credibilty you have left by bending over yet again, for little thanks?
wenchbarwer
League - Best 21
 
 
Posts: 1915
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:30 pm
Has liked: 1117 times
Been liked: 422 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby woodublieve12 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:50 am

wenchbarwer wrote:
DOC wrote:Craig Burton on C7 trying to explain the sellout.

“We have gone further than we would have liked but sometimes you have to do that to get a result”

Yep. WAFDH.

Darren Chandler makes it worse.

“We have told both Port and Adelaide that we want them to be part of the SANFL after the current contract expires in 2028”.

Yep. WAFDH

So after getting what they want to the detriment of the 8 clubs, Adelaide and Port have both issued a statement.

“We still wish to leave”

What a complete and utter cockup.


Where are the Ravens and the Pear ressies going to go? There is no AFL reserves comp, the AFL seem to have made it very clear that they have no intention of funding that.

If they want to leave, let them leave. Why ruin what little credibilty you have left by bending over yet again, for little thanks?

Wouldn't they just go to the VFL? Swans, giants, brisbane and gold coast are all there
"Fellas, it’s OK to be in pain. It’s OK to hurt. It’s OK to be sad. It’s no longer OK to suffer in silence."
User avatar
woodublieve12
Coach
 
 
Posts: 17654
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:48 pm
Has liked: 3112 times
Been liked: 2504 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:14 am

woodublieve12 wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
Where are the Ravens and the Pear ressies going to go? There is no AFL reserves comp, the AFL seem to have made it very clear that they have no intention of funding that.

If they want to leave, let them leave. Why ruin what little credibilty you have left by bending over yet again, for little thanks?

Wouldn't they just go to the VFL? Swans, giants, brisbane and gold coast are all there


The AFL are basically paying over half a Million a year (could be more) to the SANFL and the eight clubs so they dont a have to fund an AFL reserves/VFL competition with all the AFL franchises in it.

This is the AFL way of saying to Port we'll pay them off now STFU about an AFL reserves competition
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
User avatar
am Bays
Coach
 
 
Posts: 19608
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:04 pm
Location: The back bar at Lennies
Has liked: 182 times
Been liked: 2080 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Mic » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:19 am

am Bays wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:
wenchbarwer wrote:
Where are the Ravens and the Pear ressies going to go? There is no AFL reserves comp, the AFL seem to have made it very clear that they have no intention of funding that.

If they want to leave, let them leave. Why ruin what little credibilty you have left by bending over yet again, for little thanks?

Wouldn't they just go to the VFL? Swans, giants, brisbane and gold coast are all there


The AFL are basically paying over half a Million a year (could be more) to the SANFL and the eight clubs so they dont a have to fund an AFL reserves/VFL competition with all the AFL franchises in it.

This is the AFL way of saying to Port we'll pay them off now STFU about an AFL reserves competition


On Power's website, it summarises the changes, then concludes with: "“With regards to the AFL’s Competitive Balance Review, Port Adelaide maintains that the AFL have a responsibility to provide all AFL listed players with the same opportunities to develop and the only way to achieve this is through a National Reserves or 2nd tier structure that all AFL Clubs participate in.”
User avatar
Mic
League - Top 5
 
 
Posts: 3122
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:17 pm
Has liked: 170 times
Been liked: 154 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:24 am

Mic wrote:
am Bays wrote:
The AFL are basically paying over half a Million a year (could be more) to the SANFL and the eight clubs so they dont a have to fund an AFL reserves/VFL competition with all the AFL franchises in it.

This is the AFL way of saying to Port we'll pay them off now STFU about an AFL reserves competition


On Power's website, it summarises the changes, then concludes with: "“With regards to the AFL’s Competitive Balance Review, Port Adelaide maintains that the AFL have a responsibility to provide all AFL listed players with the same opportunities to develop and the only way to achieve this is through a National Reserves or 2nd tier structure that all AFL Clubs participate in.”


That's equivalent to a child muttering under their breath after being told "No" for the 1000th time that they're not getting what they want...
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
User avatar
am Bays
Coach
 
 
Posts: 19608
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:04 pm
Location: The back bar at Lennies
Has liked: 182 times
Been liked: 2080 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:53 am

I've managed to sleep on the sanfl decision and whilst it doesn't impact my lackadaisical observations of the now bush league, I truly admire those in charge at the sanfl. They've just made sure they have a job for as long as they want it.
Matty Wade is a star and deserves more respect from the forum family!
User avatar
mighty_tiger_79
Coach
 
Posts: 60321
Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:29 pm
Location: at the TAB
Has liked: 13179 times
Been liked: 4498 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby whufc » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:58 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:I've managed to sleep on the sanfl decision and whilst it doesn't impact my lackadaisical observations of the now bush league, I truly admire those in charge at the sanfl. They've just made sure they have a job for as long as they want it.


Thats what hurts the most about the last 15 years of SANFL. The people running the comp we all love is doing so from a value set of whats best for their careers not the competition.
RIP PH408 63notoutforever
User avatar
whufc
Coach
 
 
Posts: 28532
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:56 am
Location: Blakeview
Has liked: 5903 times
Been liked: 2812 times
Grassroots Team: BSR

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dutchy » Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:19 am

Best $5k Kochie has ever spent
User avatar
Dutchy
Site Admin
 
 
Posts: 45922
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:24 am
Location: Location, Location
Has liked: 2566 times
Been liked: 4178 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:07 pm

I'd say any required over 21 at the SANFuL clubs would have signed deals, this didn't come as a surprise to the clubs.

Under 21s who have AFL aspirations and missed the draft ( Logan Evans ) will see it as their opportunity to get into the doors of an AFL club.

Over 21s who perhaps have coaching ambitions but aren't in the top 20 at their SANFuL club might move to create a pathway from playing to post playing.
PAFC. Forever.

LOOK OUT, WE'RE COMING!
User avatar
Booney
Coach
 
 
Posts: 60870
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm
Location: Alberton proud
Has liked: 8026 times
Been liked: 11691 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Mic » Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:54 pm

gazzamagoo wrote:
TDJ44 wrote:
gazzamagoo wrote:Furthermore, how does this benefit MY CLUB!!

Why would Greg Edwards believe that this is the way to go?
Might be a drop in memberships after this, as it seems that a members opinion means nothing.


Should the SANFL members have been consulted?
Or don't members have a say in this sort of matter.


They haven't consulted SANFL members on the issue for the past 12 years; why would they start doing so now?
User avatar
Mic
League - Top 5
 
 
Posts: 3122
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:17 pm
Has liked: 170 times
Been liked: 154 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Blacky » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:27 pm

Bring back max
Current image:
Maximum dimensions; width: 100 pixels, height: 100 pixels, file size: 20.51 KiB
The avatar functionality is currently DISABLED.
Blacky
League Bench Warmer
 
 
Posts: 1004
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:31 pm
Location: Front bar at WESTIES
Has liked: 10 times
Been liked: 45 times
Grassroots Team: Morphettville Park

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Blacky » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:27 pm

Bring back max
Current image:
Maximum dimensions; width: 100 pixels, height: 100 pixels, file size: 20.51 KiB
The avatar functionality is currently DISABLED.
Blacky
League Bench Warmer
 
 
Posts: 1004
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:31 pm
Location: Front bar at WESTIES
Has liked: 10 times
Been liked: 45 times
Grassroots Team: Morphettville Park

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Jimmy_041 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:32 pm

Blacky wrote:Bring back max


Friday - he'd be at lunch with some ~25yo as we speak
dedja: Dunno, I’m just an idiot.
User avatar
Jimmy_041
Coach
 
 
Posts: 14899
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:30 pm
Has liked: 806 times
Been liked: 1236 times
Grassroots Team: Prince Alfred OC

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MJP1993 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:06 pm

Dutchy wrote:Best $5k Kochie has ever spent

Probably from his SA tourism wage
MJP1993
Under 18s
 
 
Posts: 699
Joined: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:04 am
Has liked: 457 times
Been liked: 54 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby whybother » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:55 pm

Best $5k Kochie has ever spent

Wasn't that the phrase attributed to a Centrals boss when he got the Gowans twins signed on ?
whybother
Under 16s
 
 
Posts: 474
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:16 am
Has liked: 111 times
Been liked: 109 times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby MJP1993 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 9:56 am

whybother wrote:Best $5k Kochie has ever spent

Wasn't that the phrase attributed to a Centrals boss when he got the Gowans twins signed on ?


Yep
MJP1993
Under 18s
 
 
Posts: 699
Joined: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:04 am
Has liked: 457 times
Been liked: 54 times

PreviousNext

Board index   Football  SANFL

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot] and 14 guests

Around the place

Competitions   SANFL Official Site | Country Footy SA | Southern Football League | VFL Footy
Club Forums   Snouts Louts | The Roost | Redlegs Forum |