Forfeits

[whufc]

My gut feel is that collectively people are having a harder time sticking things out now if they're not obtaining a level of success.

Great point!

I guess the 'sticking it out' part gets complicated when 'sticking it out' often means someone isn't working and earning money. Or maybe with both parents working or only having kids on a weekend if from a split family playing means giving up limited family time to 'stick it out'.

Not saying its a great excuse but back in the 90's if you weren't sticking it out you didn't have much else to do, not as many people worked, many families had a better work, life, balance. Less broken family situations etc.

Maybe people need to remember why they choose to play in the first place, and it shouldn't be purely for on field success.

You play essentially because you love the game, the camaraderie and mate ship, the social aspect, the health benefits.

If you sign up to do something, you should commit and see it through - regardless of performance.

I couldn't agree more with you......but im not a 'social sportsperson' which i think most c/d graders are. At that level my experience is they treat it in the same way they treat the Wednesday Night indoor cricket with mates.

Funnily enough three of them will be our best players, we lose them to Eagles U16's next year though.

[whufc]

How do those clubs go with juniors? This is how many country leagues fill their B grade when numbers get light.

There's the missing piece of the AdFL puzzle. Juniors on a different day means many won't even go to watch the senior sides, let alone fill in. Whereas most country teams/leagues the senior coach will almost always watch the oldest underage grade before the B grade to see who's up for it

We are using 5 senior colts this week to fill our b grade. Straight off the field for the 17's into a pocket for the b grade.

[wenchbarwer]

How do those clubs go with juniors? This is how many country leagues fill their B grade when numbers get light.

There's the missing piece of the AdFL puzzle. Juniors on a different day means many won't even go to watch the senior sides, let alone fill in. Whereas most country teams/leagues the senior coach will almost always watch the oldest underage grade before the B grade to see who's up for it

We are using 5 senior colts this week to fill our b grade. Straight off the field for the 17's into a pocket for the b grade.

Bingo, that's the point I was trying to make

[whufc]

How do those clubs go with juniors? This is how many country leagues fill their B grade when numbers get light.

There's the missing piece of the AdFL puzzle. Juniors on a different day means many won't even go to watch the senior sides, let alone fill in. Whereas most country teams/leagues the senior coach will almost always watch the oldest underage grade before the B grade to see who's up for it

We are using 5 senior colts this week to fill our b grade. Straight off the field for the 17's into a pocket for the b grade.

Bingo, that's the point I was trying to make

On average we have been using 1 senior colt a week but yeah, this week is a disaster. When we use them we obviously manage their game time knowing they played a full game prior. They will always start on the bench and generally sit most of the first quarter. If possible the senior colts coach might take them off late in the game but the priority is what is needed for the senior colts side over the b grade.

It has worked well for us this year as the senior colts are battling a bit results wise whilst the b grade sit top so they are enjoying coming up and getting to sing the song a few times. Obviously, the senior b graders love having the fast young kids in the side so everyone gets around them. This also means they generally train with the seniors after senior colts training because they love getting around the lads.

Its one of those situations that is forced on us because of circumstances but it actually brings a lot of positives with it. Seems to really tie the kids to the club and imo i think we get a really high percentage who transition to senior football.

[Arch44]

This week we have 2 x Bgrade sides in Div 5 forfeiting Portland and West Croydon, Div 6 twice this year Central united have forfeited their Bgrade and Div 4 We have had Pooraka forfeit their Bgrade last week and every chance I have missed a few as well. Wasn't that long ago bgrade teams forfeiting wasn't a thing, but seems to be more often now.
Are the league concerned?
Is there less players going around now?
Is the whole comp designed to suit the college teams now?
Is there less volunteers these days?
so many more questions, but its not great whichever way you look at it.

All clubs you've mentioned were struggling to come up with 2 sides before the season even started, so unfortunately, it's not surprising they're struggling at the end of a long season with injuries and lack of interest.

West Croydon had 3 teams at the start of the year, but as previously stated sanctions may have come in to play.
Feel sorry for guys like Luke Woodcock who have played bgrade all year and is towards the end of his career after years and years of Agrade football to have finals pulled out.

[Arch44]

Something has definitely changed, I don't know what it is. I have been coaching reserves since 2004 pretty much and can not remember forfeits back then on this scale let alone at all like now.

[The Bedge]

Something has definitely changed, I don't know what it is. I have been coaching reserves since 2004 pretty much and can not remember forfeits back then on this scale let alone at all like now.

None of the sides you mentioned have C grade.. I know you said WC had a C grade start of the year, but that wasn't really a C grade, they lasted like a month, and were put in after Rd 1.

[scottroo]

West Croydon have pulled both sides for the remainder of the season

[wenchbarwer]

What actually happened at West Croydon?

[wristwatcher]

West Croydon have pulled both sides for the remainder of the season

Feel sorry for the Blackfriars boys. Have had a real tough year. 2 wins and finally get to round 17 after consecutive 20 goal floggings and no opponent In an A grade game In Div 5

I have no idea what's happened at WC but hope the club can recover from this. I really don't want to see any more clubs Juniors or Seniors fall over.

[The Bedge]

West Croydon have pulled both sides for the remainder of the season

Pretty sad, and i'm sure a decision not made lightly, but probably in the best interests of the club. Go away, hit the reset button and come back next year

[Bluedemon]

How come WC are sitting on -8 points?

[The Bedge]

How come WC are sitting on -8 points?

Secret

[Footy Chick]

this explains it

From the Advertiser

A local SA footy club has been docked premiership points for poor on-field behaviour just two rounds before finals.

Division five Adelaide Footy League club West Croydon has been stripped of eight premiership points across all senior grades under the league’s Behaviour Rating System (BRS) after receiving five suspensions in 2024.

The AdFL BRS, which was introduced in 2018 to combat bad behaviour by players and clubs, places clubs under five categories through points accumulated for tribunal performance over the previous three years, with additional penalties such as fines and point deductions applying to clubs ranked in categories three to five for every further suspension.

West Croydon entered the season as a category three club but five separate suspensions at the senior level ranging from striking to misconduct and umpire abuse placed the Hawks under category five and has earned them an eight-point deduction across all senior men’s grades as well as possible fines.
The length of these suspensions ranged from three to six weeks.

The club’s A Grade side was winless prior to the punishment and will remain at the bottom of the ladder, while the B Grade side will miss finals after falling from fifth to eighth.

This masthead also understands a number of off-field incidents including a physical altercation were considered by the league when handing down the punishment.

While the AdFL can also consider the future of category five clubs in the competition, league chief John Kernahan said the Hawks would remain but under a new affiliation agreement with terms to be established.

“Clubs are advised at the completion of each season where they have finished and where they will start in the next,” Kernahan said.

“Clubs are also offered a running commentary of their rating in the same way someone might be advised of a demerit point loss with a traffic infringement.

“West Croydon’s affiliation per se is not under review for 2025 but certainly the conditions in which they are affiliated will have some very clear guidelines.”

While the league has received attention for major incidents of violence and abuse in the past, these occurrences have become less common since the introduction of the BRS in 2018, with a fight between a Pembroke OS fan and Scotch OC player in division three which resulted in a nine-week ban for the player and lifetime ban for the spectator being the only major incident of the year.

Kernahan believed clubs continuing to adhere to rules and regulations would be key to the competition’s future growth.

“We’re in a really fortunate dynamic with our clubs that they don’t need a message to be reaffirmed at all,” he said.

“While the evolution of the BRS was on the back of some heavy lifting by the league at the time, the greater majority of our clubs are in fact the ones holding the league to account on these standards.

“Unfortunately time dilutes the reasons these initiatives came into force – there was a time not so long ago where what happened at the footy stayed at the footy.

“For whatever reason, the general public has a higher expectation of what is on offer and if not delivered, they don’t come back to play or be part of a club.

“Footy is not the only pastime on offer these days. We’re competing with a range of interests, from other codes, work or quite simply, people picking and choosing where they spend their time and money.”

The West Croydon Football Club was contacted by this masthead.

[The Bedge]

Word around the streets is a women’s team forfeited a prelim tomorrow to avoid potential promotion in 2025 and an easy flag. Can anyone confirm?

[The Bedge]

West Croydon Football Club was contacted by this masthead.

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Wish that twat would stop referring to himself as the “‘mast head”

[Bluedemon]

Word around the streets is a women’s team forfeited a prelim tomorrow to avoid potential promotion in 2025 and an easy flag. Can anyone confirm?

Correct, Salisbury in Division 5 have forfeited in the Preliminary Final game

[The Ash Man]

Word around the streets is a women’s team forfeited a prelim tomorrow to avoid potential promotion in 2025 and an easy flag. Can anyone confirm?

Correct, Salisbury in Division 5 have forfeited in the Preliminary Final game

Poor form


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[tigerpie]

Word around the streets is a women’s team forfeited a prelim tomorrow to avoid potential promotion in 2025 and an easy flag. Can anyone confirm?

Correct, Salisbury in Division 5 have forfeited in the Preliminary Final game

Poor form


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Poor form is right!
If the club has a mission statement or constitution of any shape or form surely this flies directly in the face of it.

[Pag]

Forfeited due to only having 12 fit players is what I’ve heard this morning.

To think anyone would intentionally forfeit a prelim final is one of the most interesting takes I’ve seen in these parts, and there’s been a few.