by DOC » Mon May 23, 2022 11:03 am
by Booney » Mon May 23, 2022 11:19 am
by stan » Mon May 23, 2022 11:20 am
by Jimmy_041 » Mon May 23, 2022 11:29 am
by Armchair expert » Mon May 23, 2022 11:31 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:You're a legend
by am Bays » Mon May 23, 2022 11:34 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:Will Keneally continue to live in the western suburbs as she promised to do
I think she has to or she will be fair game when they parachute her back in
by DOC » Mon May 23, 2022 11:47 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:Will Keneally continue to live in the western suburbs as she promised to do
I think she has to or she will be fair game when they parachute her back in
by Jim05 » Mon May 23, 2022 11:48 am
Dutton won’t make it to the election but I think he can serve a purpose initially as opposition leader. Can be used as a attack dog on Albo and hammer him non stop on everything for 1-2 years and then replace him a year out from the election. They can’t win a election with him in charge and ICAC might have him and a few others mysteriously retiring “to spend more time with family”Armchair expert wrote:Albo handed a free kick and 50 metres if Dutton is put lib leader like reported.
by DOC » Mon May 23, 2022 11:51 am
Armchair expert wrote:Albo handed a free kick and 50 metres if Dutton is put lib leader like reported.
by Jim05 » Mon May 23, 2022 11:58 am
by Trader » Mon May 23, 2022 12:05 pm
by RB » Mon May 23, 2022 12:17 pm
Jim05 wrote:Guess who holds the balance of power in the senate Katy?
Labor can’t get anything done without Greens approval
Going to be great seeing the Greens tear the Unions a new one
by Trader » Mon May 23, 2022 12:23 pm
RB wrote:Jim05 wrote:Guess who holds the balance of power in the senate Katy?
Labor can’t get anything done without Greens approval
Going to be great seeing the Greens tear the Unions a new one
Lots of reforms that are opposed by the Greens will be supported by the Coalition, and vice versa, so I think the power that the Greens will have in practice is overstated.
That said, an obstructive senate in Australia is often handy for the government, given that it can 1) be blamed when things go wrong, and 2) form a political and constitutional pretext for an early election.
by Brodlach » Mon May 23, 2022 12:23 pm
stan wrote:Still abit to ply out, a few media outlets are saying Albo gets to 76, however until Greene declares it I won't believe it.
The next battle in the senate looks interesting. The issue for one nation is with multiple right wing minor parties entering the election it has really watered down there vote to point that non of these parties will have a seat in the senate.
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Wedgie » Mon May 23, 2022 12:34 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by Jimmy_041 » Mon May 23, 2022 12:46 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Albo handed a free kick and 50 metres if Dutton is put lib leader like reported.
by Booney » Mon May 23, 2022 12:55 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Mon May 23, 2022 1:03 pm
Trader wrote:The rise of the teal.
It's very clear there is a strong majority that are keen to see action on climate change, but remain economically right.
That poses three initial questions for mine.
1) Will the greens look back at an opportunity missed? Had they been even remotely reasonable in what they were asking for, they could have picked up a huge number of votes. (Sure they'll point to their record number they got this time - not to mention the power they wield in the senate, but how many more votes and lower house seats would they received if they were even remotely responsible when it comes to the economy).
2) 8 (i think) teal candidates all got voted in. This is a great win for them. But will it actually achieve anything? Sure, it sends a strong message that economically sensible climate policy is wanted by the electorate, not to mention the messaging around intelligent female candidates, but what real power do they have? Labor is likely to get a majority in their own right, and even if they just miss, there are so many on the cross bench that it won't take much to get things through the lower house without needing to turn to the teals. So, how do the teal's get their policies in?
3) The biggest question, what does economically responsible climate policy look like?
by Jim05 » Mon May 23, 2022 1:24 pm
by cracka » Mon May 23, 2022 2:31 pm
Trader wrote:RB wrote:Jim05 wrote:Guess who holds the balance of power in the senate Katy?
Labor can’t get anything done without Greens approval
Going to be great seeing the Greens tear the Unions a new one
Lots of reforms that are opposed by the Greens will be supported by the Coalition, and vice versa, so I think the power that the Greens will have in practice is overstated.
That said, an obstructive senate in Australia is often handy for the government, given that it can 1) be blamed when things go wrong, and 2) form a political and constitutional pretext for an early election.
Will be interesting to see if the green's learn their lesson from last time.
They could have had a real climate policy in place back when Rudd proposed it, but they said it didn't go far enough, blocked it, and 10 years on we still have nothing of note.
Will they be more reasonable this time round? Or will they once again push for crazy targets and say to hell with anything that gets in their way?
Being the crazy idealists they are, it wouldn't shock me if they continue to want too much.
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