by Psyber » Sun Mar 20, 2022 10:54 am
by heater31 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:17 am
Excellent campaign by the powerfull Ambulance Employees Association to gain more members.LaughingKookaburra wrote:I still don’t understand how we are going to fix the “ramping crisis” without any more beds. In 6 months time are we still going to see Ambo’s with writing on them because FMC have huge lines still? There are many good things that Labor put forward but I just can’t fathom their statements on the health system in SA.
by am Bays » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:35 am
heater31 wrote:Excellent campaign by the powerfull Ambulance Employees Association to gain more members.LaughingKookaburra wrote:I still don’t understand how we are going to fix the “ramping crisis” without any more beds. In 6 months time are we still going to see Ambo’s with writing on them because FMC have huge lines still? There are many good things that Labor put forward but I just can’t fathom their statements on the health system in SA.
They will be back at it in 2 years saying nothing has changed!
by Jim05 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:39 am
It’s almost as though we need more beds at the RAH.am Bays wrote:heater31 wrote:Excellent campaign by the powerfull Ambulance Employees Association to gain more members.LaughingKookaburra wrote:I still don’t understand how we are going to fix the “ramping crisis” without any more beds. In 6 months time are we still going to see Ambo’s with writing on them because FMC have huge lines still? There are many good things that Labor put forward but I just can’t fathom their statements on the health system in SA.
They will be back at it in 2 years saying nothing has changed!
Exactly
More ambulances just means more people dying in the back of an ambulance outside an ED or at home with an ambulance crew there.
The problem is Patient Flow in the hospitals to clear the EDs and “downstream” transfer of care from the hospital to the Primary healthcare network (GPS and community healthcare).
All this is going to go is out more stress on overworked Emergency Department MOs and Nurses.
by LaughingKookaburra » Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:04 pm
heater31 wrote:Excellent campaign by the powerfull Ambulance Employees Association to gain more members.LaughingKookaburra wrote:I still don’t understand how we are going to fix the “ramping crisis” without any more beds. In 6 months time are we still going to see Ambo’s with writing on them because FMC have huge lines still? There are many good things that Labor put forward but I just can’t fathom their statements on the health system in SA.
They will be back at it in 2 years saying nothing has changed!
by stan » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:14 am
I suspect that you are correct.LaughingKookaburra wrote:heater31 wrote:Excellent campaign by the powerfull Ambulance Employees Association to gain more members.LaughingKookaburra wrote:I still don’t understand how we are going to fix the “ramping crisis” without any more beds. In 6 months time are we still going to see Ambo’s with writing on them because FMC have huge lines still? There are many good things that Labor put forward but I just can’t fathom their statements on the health system in SA.
They will be back at it in 2 years saying nothing has changed!
That’s where you are wrong, I bet any money you won’t hear them in the media now they ultimately got what they wanted. Ramping has been a major issue for longer than just the last 3-4 years. The incoming government is now acting as the white knight was the ones that built a smaller hospital and were closing the Repat. Take a step back and imagine if the Repat shut through Covid….. Seriously!
by MW » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:46 am
by Wedgie » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:12 am
MW wrote:It won't be more beds that reduces ramping (I wont say eliminates cause that wont happen) but it will be increased turnover of patients i.e. not keeping them in longer than they need too, moving them to hotels similar to what they do with women after labour etc.
by MW » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:24 am
Wedgie wrote:MW wrote:It won't be more beds that reduces ramping (I wont say eliminates cause that wont happen) but it will be increased turnover of patients i.e. not keeping them in longer than they need too, moving them to hotels similar to what they do with women after labour etc.
It may be just a matter of moving patients to appropriate wards more efficiently.
I was in Flinders Emergency once for almost 10 hours because they thought they couldn't find a spot for me in the cardiac ward. At 4am they finally moved me to the cardiac ward and the staff in there told me they were near empty and had been for days. Had almost the entire ward to myself after spending 10 hours in a packed emergency ward for no reason.
The organisation in the place was horrific.
by Dutchy » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:27 am
by Booney » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:27 am
Brodlach wrote:Not sure if Rob Lucas on channel 9 has said more than 4 words
by Booney » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:32 am
LaughingKookaburra wrote:I still don’t understand how we are going to fix the “ramping crisis” without any more beds. In 6 months time are we still going to see Ambo’s with writing on them because FMC have huge lines still? There are many good things that Labor put forward but I just can’t fathom their statements on the health system in SA.
by MW » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:42 am
by Booney » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:52 am
MW wrote:Isnt that what the stadium money is funding? more beds?
by tnt » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:45 am
by Jim05 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:48 am
If that god bothering loon takes over the leadership that would be the end of them as far as my support goes.tnt wrote:The Stadium was part of the Convention centre upgrade not happening until 2026 so the money isn't sitting there ready to use.
Think the Liberals were going to sell the Entertainment centre to help fund it.
It's good that Health finally gets some voter traction but Labor's costings released one day before the election doesn't indicate anything very creative on the funding model. The reduction of Public Servant executives (long overdue) in "non essential" services will take years . These guys are on contracts and so its not just a case of see ya later, now we have money.
Not sure who will be the Liberal leader. Spiers is a very good operator and will be a good attack dog but is from the Christian Right.
by Booney » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:52 am
by RB » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:16 am
Jim05 wrote:Already too many bible bashers in politics
by DOC » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:24 am
by Psyber » Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:08 pm
Wedgie wrote:MW wrote:It won't be more beds that reduces ramping (I wont say eliminates cause that wont happen) but it will be increased turnover of patients i.e. not keeping them in longer than they need too, moving them to hotels similar to what they do with women after labour etc.
It may be just a matter of moving patients to appropriate wards more efficiently.
I was in Flinders Emergency once for almost 10 hours because they thought they couldn't find a spot for me in the cardiac ward. At 4am they finally moved me to the cardiac ward and the staff in there told me they were near empty and had been for days. Had almost the entire ward to myself after spending 10 hours in a packed emergency ward for no reason.
The organisation in the place was horrific.
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