by Tony Clifton » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:03 pm
by Aerie » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:22 pm
by gadj1976 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:22 pm
by heater31 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:55 pm
gadj1976 wrote:So, in summary, SACA need to install a policy/guideline about how the coaches need to 'coach' as a group. We as parents sit back and look at the juniors and then look at how SACA perform and marry the two up. It's disgracefully organised and shows through the grades right up to SACA level.
by caleb777 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:39 pm
gadj1976 wrote:I'm a dad of a 12 yo lad who is slowly progressing through the bottom ages of district cricket, albeit through development squads.
He is an average kid in an average grade - and I'm not being defamatory about either, just saying he's not a star by all means. But what I've seen by way of tryouts and development squads makes me think that the top level is suffering because of the junior system underneath.
To be honest, I don't thing there is any 'development' at all. He is in a development squad and what I have seen is the coaches say "good shot" in the nets but nothing about technique, nothing about poor shot selection, nothing about building innings, nothing about partnerships, nothing about putting pressure on the bat by bowling consecutive maiden overs. Maybe that will come as he progresses. I don' t know. All I know is that when I speak to other district clubs at the same age group, all the parents say the same thing, it's very ordinarily managed. At our club, there is a disconnect between the development squad and the coaches at the next level. So when my son was selected at the next level, there wasn't any consideration for his batting position, fielding position, bowling position.
So, in summary, SACA need to install a policy/guideline about how the coaches need to 'coach' as a group. We as parents sit back and look at the juniors and then look at how SACA perform and marry the two up. It's disgracefully organised and shows through the grades right up to SACA level.
I should say that opposition clubs have called out a couple of clubs that have been exemplary in their organisation but unfortunately this isn't the norm.
I should add, before my son started trying out for district, i was of the same mind, that teams need to merge. Now, I'm not so sure that will fix anything.
by daysofourlives » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:14 pm
heater31 wrote:gadj1976 wrote:So, in summary, SACA need to install a policy/guideline about how the coaches need to 'coach' as a group. We as parents sit back and look at the juniors and then look at how SACA perform and marry the two up. It's disgracefully organised and shows through the grades right up to SACA level.
That won't help either.....SACA once had a coach on the books that had played at the highest level. His go to teaching for batting....was to plant your front foot down the wicket and swing as hard as possible!
by cokadonkeytoo » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:36 pm
by whufc » Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:40 am
by Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:04 am
by am Bays » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:06 am
gadj1976 wrote:I'm a dad of a 12 yo lad who is slowly progressing through the bottom ages of district cricket, albeit through development squads.
To be honest, I don't thing there is any 'development' at all. He is in a development squad and what I have seen is the coaches say "good shot" in the nets but nothing about technique, nothing about poor shot selection, nothing about building innings, nothing about partnerships, nothing about putting pressure on the bat by bowling consecutive maiden overs. Maybe that will come as he progresses. I don' t know. All I know is that when I speak to other district clubs at the same age group, all the parents say the same thing, it's very ordinarily managed. At our club, there is a disconnect between the development squad and the coaches at the next level. So when my son was selected at the next level, there wasn't any consideration for his batting position, fielding position, bowling position.
gadj1976 wrote:I' He is in a development squad and what I have seen is the coaches say "good shot" in the nets but nothing about technique, nothing about poor shot selection,
by am Bays » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:08 am
by whufc » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:16 pm
am Bays wrote:gadj1976 wrote:I'm a dad of a 12 yo lad who is slowly progressing through the bottom ages of district cricket, albeit through development squads.
To be honest, I don't thing there is any 'development' at all. He is in a development squad and what I have seen is the coaches say "good shot" in the nets but nothing about technique, nothing about poor shot selection, nothing about building innings, nothing about partnerships, nothing about putting pressure on the bat by bowling consecutive maiden overs. Maybe that will come as he progresses. I don' t know. All I know is that when I speak to other district clubs at the same age group, all the parents say the same thing, it's very ordinarily managed. At our club, there is a disconnect between the development squad and the coaches at the next level. So when my son was selected at the next level, there wasn't any consideration for his batting position, fielding position, bowling position.
Given he is 12 and if the five year blocks of play, train, compete win (if you subscribe to the Istvan Balyi structure of athlete development letting kids play and enjoy the game should be the prime focus the tactical side (nothing about poor shot selection, nothing about building innings, nothing about partnerships, nothing about putting pressure on the bat by bowling consecutive maiden overs) can come as you train to traingadj1976 wrote:I' He is in a development squad and what I have seen is the coaches say "good shot" in the nets but nothing about technique, nothing about poor shot selection,
However, you'd think this is some of the stuff that should start happening from an individual perspective as part of a development squad, pulling the kid over and doing some basic batting/bowling drills and giving him something to work on personally at each session or at home with Dad.
by Corona Man » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:37 pm
by Aerie » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:10 pm
by gadj1976 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:28 am
am Bays wrote:gadj1976 wrote:I'm a dad of a 12 yo lad who is slowly progressing through the bottom ages of district cricket, albeit through development squads.
To be honest, I don't thing there is any 'development' at all. He is in a development squad and what I have seen is the coaches say "good shot" in the nets but nothing about technique, nothing about poor shot selection, nothing about building innings, nothing about partnerships, nothing about putting pressure on the bat by bowling consecutive maiden overs. Maybe that will come as he progresses. I don' t know. All I know is that when I speak to other district clubs at the same age group, all the parents say the same thing, it's very ordinarily managed. At our club, there is a disconnect between the development squad and the coaches at the next level. So when my son was selected at the next level, there wasn't any consideration for his batting position, fielding position, bowling position.
Given he is 12 and if the five year blocks of play, train, compete win (if you subscribe to the Istvan Balyi structure of athlete development letting kids play and enjoy the game should be the prime focus the tactical side (nothing about poor shot selection, nothing about building innings, nothing about partnerships, nothing about putting pressure on the bat by bowling consecutive maiden overs) can come as you train to traingadj1976 wrote:I' He is in a development squad and what I have seen is the coaches say "good shot" in the nets but nothing about technique, nothing about poor shot selection,
However, you'd think this is some of the stuff that should start happening from an individual perspective as part of a development squad, pulling the kid over and doing some basic batting/bowling drills and giving him something to work on personally at each session or at home with Dad.
by Gosaints » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:49 am
cokadonkeytoo wrote:Junior cricket has been on a decline for probably the last 8-10 years. Cricket in this state will be in a terrible way if things aren't addressed now. Grade clubs need to look at their junior coaching structures and maybe put more money and resources into that. After all, they are the future of the club!
by The Bedge » Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:01 am
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Tony Clifton » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:00 pm
The Bedge wrote:If you dramatically reduce the number of grade clubs, do you run the risk of losing more players to the game of cricket in general?
by whufc » Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:07 pm
The Bedge wrote:If you dramatically reduce the number of grade clubs, do you run the risk of losing more players to the game of cricket in general?
by The Old Fellow » Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:13 pm
Tony Clifton wrote:The Bedge wrote:If you dramatically reduce the number of grade clubs, do you run the risk of losing more players to the game of cricket in general?
Possibly but that's not grade cricket's role
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