GSFL Movements

[LuvsFooty]

2 out of 2 for me in the tips this week. I tipped that Compass would go out in straight sets. After playing them in round 18 in was clear to me that they were not up to the level of Strath, Creek and Willunga.

[BJ Ernest]

Didnt get up to the strath compass game yesterday but from the sounds of it compass ran out of puff. Up by a couple of points at 3 quarter time but as i had thought too much left to too few in the end. Burdett, Maxfield and Bailey really needed to have blinders for Compass to challenge the other 3 sides.

Creeks were impressive, disciplined and were a cut above us. We had our moments and looked dangerous and capable but everytime we challenged or looked like mounting one they kicked a goal and then in the last kicked away.

Willunga v Strath at Yankalilla and its a case of who wants it more i believe. Willunga with some injury concerns and Strath up and about winning 2 close finals in a row.

[limb]

You're very humble BJ but lets be honest.. Willunga will absolutely demolish Strath on the weekend. It will be a similar scoreline to last year's preliminary final when Strath got beat by 25 goals. I went to the game between Mt Compass and Strath yesterday and I was a bit disappointed with what I saw. It was close all day so it was a good game to watch but it wasn't a particularly skillful match. The turning point was when Strath kicked a goal after the 3 quarter time siren from about 45m out to get within a couple of points. Mt Compass didn't give a yelp in the last quarter which was disappointing given the good year they've had. Full credit to Compass supporters too. It looked like the whole town was there and they were very vocal.

[BJ Ernest]

FM is it definitely being brought in?

[FootyMad]

Whats your thoughts on the points system?
Apparently the association and several clubs are voting it in for 08. With this in mind if a certain amount (not sure ofthe amount) vote against the system it wont come in.

[BJ Ernest]

I just dont like the feel of it. Basically the first 5 years will be a teathing period where sides like goolwa, yankalilla and the like wont be able to get up off the bottom.
Is every player at the club at the moment worth 1 point now?
How can you justify a player who has decided to mvoe from Salisbury who is playing A1s and decides to live at Victor and wants to play footy but cant fit him in to the side due to points?

[FootyMad]

Massive point you make there BJ, I reckon if a players moves into your boundary he should be 1pt player no matter what.
What they are saying is any player who is chosen to play A'grade in that given week who is deemed a local is worth 1 point - however if you promote a colt who is still playing colts the colt is worth 0 points.
To be deemed a local you must have played X amount of junior games at the club or have played 1 season of senior football at the club. In saying that if you are a 3 point player the next season your only worth 2 points and so on.

[Hills]

So FM at EB if you were to keep your squad next year. All the players would be reduced by a point and you could recruit new players but cannot exceed 35 points per game in any team. A's B's and below....? What if you already exceed 35 points (not saying that you are) do you have too not play certain players to reduce the points?

If it was bought in next year?

[BJ Ernest]

Yeah so it encourages teams to try and hold onto there recruits.
I think the Great Southern this year more than ever was as even as a comp can really be. Early on it wasnt pretty but by the end of the year as i read earlier on in the forum Yank beat Compass, Saints beat a finalist in Myponga. These sides keeping the same group of guys and getting in a couple more players will only flourish and become more competitive again.
With a top 5 side getting 32 points and Goolwa getting 3 extra points i dont think thats the difference between the creeks and goolwa.
Rather than bring clubs back to the pack encourage clubs to try and get to a higher level.

Hills in regard to that i believe EB would have struggled to be under the points! A huge turnover of players like that wont be possible. EB would have been up the creek without a paddle as they couldnt have replaced the guys they lost and the locals without these imports would have been well down the bottom. So does that then allow them a concession? Where does it go when they get one?

[FootyMad]

So FM at EB if you were to keep your squad next year. All the players would be reduced by a point and you could recruit new players but cannot exceed 35 points per game in any team. A's B's and below....? What if you already exceed 35 points (not saying that you are) do you have too not play certain players to reduce the points?

If it was bought in next year?

No mate, all current players in 07 are worth 1 point in 08 - no matter who they are. B'Grade doesnt count, no point system - its only 35 points for the A'Grade team on that day. In 09 though all players recruited for the 08 season would be worth one less point - eg a player worth 3 points in 08 is worth 2 points in 09.
Yes if you exceed your 35 points you have to drop players to bring it back down for that game, keeping in mind you need to be fielding 21 players that add upto 35pts or less. You can still recruit 10 or so players but they cant all play together as you can only have 35pts per week on the park, might work for a rotation...

[FootyMad]

Yeah so it encourages teams to try and hold onto there recruits.
I think the Great Southern this year more than ever was as even as a comp can really be. Early on it wasnt pretty but by the end of the year as i read earlier on in the forum Yank beat Compass, Saints beat a finalist in Myponga. These sides keeping the same group of guys and getting in a couple more players will only flourish and become more competitive again.
With a top 5 side getting 32 points and Goolwa getting 3 extra points i dont think thats the difference between the creeks and goolwa.
Rather than bring clubs back to the pack encourage clubs to try and get to a higher level.

Hills in regard to that i believe EB would have struggled to be under the points! A huge turnover of players like that wont be possible. EB would have been up the creek without a paddle as they couldnt have replaced the guys they lost and the locals without these imports would have been well down the bottom. So does that then allow them a concession? Where does it go when they get one?

BJ there are no concessions mate, if EB take on a new coach and loose recruits from 07, 08 will be a long year for example, same goes for Mypo and Compass as they finished even higher. Only bottom 3 clubs get more points to play with.

[BJ Ernest]

Thats where i dont like it. It wasnt EBs choice to have everyone leave. But if this points system comes in no side will be able to replace them.
I think you would have realised it a pretty good standard of footy and u cant really just ship in a group of players and win it, the comp is stronger than that so smart recruiting is required.
I hope we vote no. In thinking about it it would help us to vote yes because our junior system is strong and we can continue to blood them through. But as i said i would prefer it to stay as it is.
Otherwise you just get the extremely highly paid players coming in for a season or 2, getting there massive cheques and getting out.
I know i would prefer to play with mates and all get a little bit of beer money rather than see some high profile recruit come in and rip all of the money out of the budget because he can demand the $$$ and get it.
WE could go on all day about this!

[FootyMad]

Yes we could mate, for the record I heard Willunga and Victor are voting no.
They need 1 or 2 more clubs and it gets scrapped.

[FOOTYGODS]

the points system is crap....

[FootyMad]

That a way Fuddy, now get on the GSFL committee and vote against it for us.

[FOOTYGODS]

nah apparently i'm coaching westies hahaha and playing at Lofty Two wells Reynella Aldinga Seaton anywhere else???

[FootyMad]

nah apparently i'm coaching westies hahaha and playing at Lofty Two wells Reynella Aldinga Seaton anywhere else???

I actually heard the Barossa....?

[LuvsFooty]

whatever happens with the points system, we need to know whats happening soon. The saints are recruting as we speak, but we are working to the points system to be safe. Personally as I have said before the points system doesn't seem to suit the GSFL. It is being put in place to help clubs like ours but we understand that footy runs in cycles and in the GSFL things can change quickly. From our point of view we feel that we have an excellent group of youngsters all we need is proabably six players to compliment what we have. We shouldnt need the league to help us!

[limb]

It shounds like the general consensus of the people in this forum is that the GSFL doesn't need the points system. Personally I think that there might be some merit in it and if it does come in I'd be very curious to see how it goes. If it comes in, I think that one of the good positives about it will be the emphasis on developing your juniors and keeping them at your club. I think one of the best things about playing in the GSFL is being able to play against the same blokes that you played against back in Junior Colts and Senior Colts right through to senior footy. If the points system ensures that players are encouraged to stay at the same club right through from juniors to A Grade then I think that is a positive step.

[BJ Ernest]

Its positive for the creeks at the moment coz uve got the imports in and they are all reasonably young. Compliment them with some good juniors and the creeks wont be back down for a long time.
There isnt a culture in Great Southern to buy flags like elsewhere, and its been proven time and again that trying to buy success doesnt work. It does take blooding juniors and recruiting well if needed. Theres a lot of pride in playing A grade footy at the local club u grew up playing for, u see the passion whilst watching the 14s and 17s each week.
In a perfect world the Salary Cap would be abided to and there would be no need for a points system but was the season that lopsided this year?
Id say other than Langhornes its a very even comp with them just ahead of the next 3-4 sides.