by Booney » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:34 am
by shoe boy » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:11 am
Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?
Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.
Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"
Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
by Booney » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:25 am
by shoe boy » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:28 am
Booney wrote:Wingard is an interesting one, I've made mention in here previously that he should be capable of leading the party one day, he's clean cut, got media experience, right age profile, but my word is he hopeless under pressure or what?
by stan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:22 am
Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?
Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.
Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"
Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
by shoe boy » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:58 am
stan wrote:Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?
Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.
Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"
Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.
There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.
by stan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:24 am
This time it really is, but still they made to promise without really understanding what was involved.shoe boy wrote:stan wrote:Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?
Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.
Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"
Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.
There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.
Sounds very similar to the Current Government "its labours fault"
by Psyber » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:58 pm
shoe boy wrote:stan wrote:Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?
Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.
Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"
Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.
There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.
Sounds very similar to the Current Government "its labours fault"
by DOC » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:21 pm
by stan » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:00 pm
Yes but if that was done more often then places like this for example would be full of tumbleweed.DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?
by Psyber » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:56 am
DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?
by Jimmy_041 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:25 pm
Psyber wrote:DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?
Probably it would have been wise to say that they would do if if it proved to be feasible once they had access to the details...
But then, no political party likes to sound indefinite and let their opponents counter it with a statement that it is all out there in the open already - a lie which the electorate may then buy.
I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...
by Booney » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:38 pm
Psyber wrote:DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?
Probably it would have been wise to say that they would do if if it proved to be feasible once they had access to the details...
But then, no political party likes to sound indefinite and let their opponents counter it with a statement that it is all out there in the open already - a lie which the electorate may then buy.
I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...
by heater31 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:20 pm
by Psyber » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:48 pm
Booney wrote:Psyber wrote:DOC wrote:So, making a statement without facts is something that should be avoided?
Probably it would have been wise to say that they would do if if it proved to be feasible once they had access to the details...
But then, no political party likes to sound indefinite and let their opponents counter it with a statement that it is all out there in the open already - a lie which the electorate may then buy.
I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...
Hang on....hang on.....
So, Labor tells us all about these new trams, the Libs, then in opposition either 1), don't pick up on the fact there's no right turn or 2), don't ask why or, most likely 3), ask but can't gain any traction with it.
by StrayDog » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:02 am
Psyber wrote:....
I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...
by mighty_tiger_79 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:19 am
by cracka » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:27 am
StrayDog wrote:Psyber wrote:....
I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...
Fair point, as classics such as "No way that GST will ever be part of our (Coalition) policy, it's dead" and something about ETSA not being sold, only serve to re-enforce.
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:11 am
cracka wrote:StrayDog wrote:Psyber wrote:....
I'm inately sceptical of any promise by any political party - look at Paul Keating's forceful "L. A. W. Law!" statement about promised tax cuts as an example...
Fair point, as classics such as "No way that GST will ever be part of our (Coalition) policy, it's dead" and something about ETSA not being sold, only serve to re-enforce.
And the Gillard/Rudd no carbon tax
by bulldogproud » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:24 pm
stan wrote:This time it really is, but still they made to promise without really understanding what was involved.shoe boy wrote:stan wrote:Oddly enough it would have been the most cost effective to put it in when the original project was being completed.Booney wrote:Is anyone surprised the Libs are as rubbish at governing as they were at being an opposition?
Report tabled by former government = the tram can't turn right, will cost too much.
Libs in election campaign "We'll get it to turn right!"
Libs post election "Yeah, umm, it'll cost too much."
Whilst it was always going to be 1 election promise down the drain, you still need to point the finger at the previous government. It should have bee done right the first time.
There will be a few more to fall out as well, the Libs said some really dumb shit leading up the election and there is probably a few more that aren't feasible to fall over.
Sounds very similar to the Current Government "its labours fault"
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